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Why did we overpay so much for Brooks? And where does that leave us now?

Of course he's worth that money. You don't understand the value of a good 3-4 backer. It's a fantastic deal.

WHO ELSE WOULD THEY HAVE GOTTEN? Do I need to post the Free Agency list again and no linebacker coming out of college can play 3 downs of 3-4 backer.
Here's my best attempt at posting like SanDiego49er:

"7 sacks and the most QB pressures while playing on the strong side of the O-line = the suxxx0rs OLB "
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Ok I'm glad to have him back. I hope he meets his high contract with great play over the next few years. I doubt it but we will see.

Well if he doens't meet his high contract and play well then there is really nothing to complain/worry about, right?

Especially since he will simply be RELEASED if he doesn't live up to the numbers (which really aren't very high when put into context).

It should work out ok. Next deal. Hopefully Goldson, Snyder, Ginn, Alex.
Originally posted by Oldschool9erfan:
Of course he's worth that money. You don't understand the value of a good 3-4 backer. It's a fantastic deal.

WHO ELSE WOULD THEY HAVE GOTTEN? Do I need to post the Free Agency list again and no linebacker coming out of college can play 3 downs of 3-4 backer.

I like the deal because it rewards him for performance, locks him up long term if he DOES perform, but also doesn't kill the cap if he underperforms.

Seriously....what are you guys that don't like this deal looking at. I just don't see teh downside. If this were the NBA or MLB where contracts are 100% guaranteed, I'd understand. This isn't those leagues tho. There is a reason the NFL is kind. Teams have to be either pretty stupid (Raiders) or pretty successful (Steelers...players meet excalators because they are WINNING) to get themselves in cap trouble.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Ok I'm glad to have him back. I hope he meets his high contract with great play over the next few years. I doubt it but we will see.

Well if he doens't meet his high contract and play well then there is really nothing to complain/worry about, right?

Especially since he will simply be RELEASED if he doesn't live up to the numbers (which really aren't very high when put into context).

It should work out ok. Next deal. Hopefully Goldson, Snyder, Ginn, Alex.

LOL!

Sounds like we talked you down from the ledge. No worries.
This looks like a great contract for the team. He is gonna have to perform to earn most of that money.


http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/01/brooks-six-year-deal-with-49ers-heavy-with-incentives/


The 49ers recent contract extension with LB Ahmad Brooks is filled with de-escalators, according to a league source, meaning he will have to stay injury-free and achieve subsantial sack totals to receive a maximum average salary of $7.5 million per season.

Brooks received a $7.5 million signing bonus as part of the contract, but there are few other guarantees in a contract signed on Tuesday that is structured heavily on performanced-based incentives. The $17.5 million worth of guarantees are for injury only at the time of signing, not for skill, and that figure could be considerably less if the de-escaltors are triggered.

His base salary of $750,000 for 2012 is guaranteed, and Brooks will be able to make $500,000 in total roster bonuses based on games on the roster, as well as a $100,000 workout bonus.

Brooks has a base salary of $4.3 million in 2013 which is guaranteed for injury at the time he signed the deal. That becomes guaranteed for skill and cap if he's on the roster April 1 of that year. However, the guaranteed portion can be reduced up to $2.5 million that year if he does not achieve certain sack totals.

In 2014, Brooks has a base of $5.15 million, with $4.95 million becoming guaranteed for injury and skill if he is on the roster on April 1. However, that guaranteed total and base salary can be reduce by up to $2.5 million based on his 2013 sack production.

Brooks can void all de-escalators in the contract if the 49ers win 12 games, he has 93.2 percent playing time that season and San Francisco plays in the conference championship game, or if he has two prior seasons of 12 sacks or more.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Read the fine print .....

The 49ers recent contract extension with LB Ahmad Brooks is filled with de-escalators, according to a league source, meaning he will have to stay injury-free and achieve subsantial sack totals to receive a maximum average salary of $7.5 million per season.

Brooks received a $7.5 million signing bonus as part of the contract, but there are few other guarantees in a contract signed on Tuesday that is structured heavily on performanced-based incentives. The $17.5 million worth of guarantees are for injury only at the time of signing, not for skill, and that figure could be considerably less if the de-escaltors are triggered.

His base salary of $750,000 for 2012 is guaranteed, and Brooks will be able to make $500,000 in total roster bonuses based on games on the roster, as well as a $100,000 workout bonus.

Brooks has a base salary of $4.3 million in 2013 which is guaranteed for injury at the time he signed the deal. That becomes guaranteed for skill and cap if he's on the roster April 1 of that year. However, the guaranteed portion can be reduced up to $2.5 million that year if he does not achieve certain sack totals.

In 2014, Brooks has a base of $5.15 million, with $4.95 million becoming guaranteed for injury and skill if he is on the roster on April 1. However, that guaranteed total and base salary can be reduce by up to $2.5 million based on his 2013 sack production.

Brooks can void all de-escalators in the contract if the 49ers win 12 games, he has 93.2 percent playing time that season and San Francisco plays in the conference championship game, or if he has two prior seasons of 12 sacks or more.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/01/brooks-six-year-deal-with-49ers-heavy-with-incentives/

Beat me to it. THIS is even better. A must read!
This is the greatest contract in the history of the world.
Originally posted by okdkid:
This is the greatest contract in the history of the world.

LOL...not quite....

...but I'm impressed that they resigned a player that I thought had potential without significanly raising this years cap number. If he sucks, he's gone. Only his 7 Mil bonus is fully guaranteed.
I get the feeling SD would turn a Super Bowl win into a negative.
Great job once more by the FO. People have been telling the cynics to wait for the official contract numbers all week. Now let's see how many of these guys screaming "overpaid" are still left singing the same tune. Agents always exaggerate their clients contract numbers, glad some of us had the patience to wait for the facts.
We didn't over pay him.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/01/brooks-six-year-deal-with-49ers-heavy-with-incentives/

It's loaded with incentives.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It should work out ok. Next deal. Hopefully Goldson, Snyder, Ginn, Alex.

please do not go postal when they do not sign ginn
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Originally posted by okdkid:
This is the greatest contract in the history of the world.
remember the contracts donahue gave to people like ahmed plummer we have indeed came out of the dark
Since San Diego has come off of the ledge, should we lock 'er up?