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Penn St. football sexual abuse scandal
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:08 PM
- chico49erfan
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Oh okay, metaphorically - I thought I had missed something HUGE
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:14 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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all these new reports are sickening! who knows how much deeper this goes...governors, coaches, charity members...just wow.
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:22 PM
- horsecore
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Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Wait, bodies? Fill me in.
PS - disgusting interview with Sandusky over the phone. He sounded DISGUSTING and completely guilty with pedophile tendencies. Listening to him try to say he's not into young boys made it sounds like he was SUPER into young boys.
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Source noted coach interest - w/ old man around, Sandusky trial, civil suits & fractured fanbase - isn't exactly brimming w/ good candidate
As long as remnants of Paterno era regime remain at Penn State, Bradley is set for life, along w/ other PSU lifers. Coach or not. #hushmoney
What self-respecting coach goes there w/ Paterno regime still in place? Like guillotine hanging over school that could drop at any moment
Even if Penn State administration, football & athletic dept employees let go, Paterno still lurking - and now we know his M.O. All about him
Source also said Governor in deep w/ Trustees which explains status quo. Gov. knew about Sandusky & is Trustee himself. Massive conspiracy.
I'm not throwing out anything informed Pennsylvania media doesn't already know or have an inkling about. Open secret. I will have more soon.
So if you're wondering why Governor hasn't cleaned house, now u kno. He's one of Trustees himself who gave Sandusky a pass. Moreso, actually
Doesn't explain the bodies part, though. But WOW the f**king GOVERNOR knew?! That is sickening.
This. Good god....it keeps getting worse.
[ Edited by horsecore on Nov 15, 2011 at 12:22 PM ]
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:24 PM
- 49erJim
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Originally posted by Jcool:ITs like skeletons in the closet.
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Doesn't explain the bodies part, though. But WOW the f**king GOVERNOR knew?! That is sickening.
He is a long time assistant coach, first under Sandusky and then replacing him when he retired. He knows all the secrets that Penn State doesn't want out. So they don't want to piss him off and have him go public.
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:27 PM
- 49erJim
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a scandal or cover up thats kept a secret. This is getting very creepy!!
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:31 PM
- Jcool
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DanWetzel Dan Wetzel
Podcast: Sara Ganim, crime reporter Harrisburg Patriot-News w insight and info on Sandusky/Penn St.
http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/shows/dan-wetzel/wetzel-podcast-11-15-11241/
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:33 PM
- 49erJim
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Originally posted by horsecore:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Wait, bodies? Fill me in.
PS - disgusting interview with Sandusky over the phone. He sounded DISGUSTING and completely guilty with pedophile tendencies. Listening to him try to say he's not into young boys made it sounds like he was SUPER into young boys.
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Source noted coach interest - w/ old man around, Sandusky trial, civil suits & fractured fanbase - isn't exactly brimming w/ good candidate
As long as remnants of Paterno era regime remain at Penn State, Bradley is set for life, along w/ other PSU lifers. Coach or not. #hushmoney
What self-respecting coach goes there w/ Paterno regime still in place? Like guillotine hanging over school that could drop at any moment
Even if Penn State administration, football & athletic dept employees let go, Paterno still lurking - and now we know his M.O. All about him
Source also said Governor in deep w/ Trustees which explains status quo. Gov. knew about Sandusky & is Trustee himself. Massive conspiracy.
I'm not throwing out anything informed Pennsylvania media doesn't already know or have an inkling about. Open secret. I will have more soon.
So if you're wondering why Governor hasn't cleaned house, now u kno. He's one of Trustees himself who gave Sandusky a pass. Moreso, actually
Doesn't explain the bodies part, though. But WOW the f**king GOVERNOR knew?! That is sickening.
This. Good god....it keeps getting worse.
But wait, Sportsfan says they have to prove they are all guilty with a jury in a court of law to be GUILITY!! You could have everyone looking the other way, maybe thats how this went on for sooo long, the school, HC all the other coaches, the BOD and police (haha they can be paid off easy) and now the STATE knew about this scumbag. If this is true and the case, everyone will get a free pass.
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:35 PM
- njninersfan420
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Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by horsecore:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Wait, bodies? Fill me in.
PS - disgusting interview with Sandusky over the phone. He sounded DISGUSTING and completely guilty with pedophile tendencies. Listening to him try to say he's not into young boys made it sounds like he was SUPER into young boys.
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Source noted coach interest - w/ old man around, Sandusky trial, civil suits & fractured fanbase - isn't exactly brimming w/ good candidate
As long as remnants of Paterno era regime remain at Penn State, Bradley is set for life, along w/ other PSU lifers. Coach or not. #hushmoney
What self-respecting coach goes there w/ Paterno regime still in place? Like guillotine hanging over school that could drop at any moment
Even if Penn State administration, football & athletic dept employees let go, Paterno still lurking - and now we know his M.O. All about him
Source also said Governor in deep w/ Trustees which explains status quo. Gov. knew about Sandusky & is Trustee himself. Massive conspiracy.
I'm not throwing out anything informed Pennsylvania media doesn't already know or have an inkling about. Open secret. I will have more soon.
So if you're wondering why Governor hasn't cleaned house, now u kno. He's one of Trustees himself who gave Sandusky a pass. Moreso, actually
Doesn't explain the bodies part, though. But WOW the f**king GOVERNOR knew?! That is sickening.
This. Good god....it keeps getting worse.
But wait, Sportsfan says they have to prove they are all guilty with a jury in a court of law to be GUILITY!! You could have everyone looking the other way, maybe thats how this went on for sooo long, the school, HC all the other coaches, the BOD and police (haha they can be paid off easy) and now the STATE knew about this scumbag. If this is true and the case, everyone will get a free pass.
yea jim, ur not allowed to have an opinion untill they are proven guilty by a jury, so how dare u bring up evidence that hasnt been proven! oj and casey are also innocent in his mind.
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:38 PM
- 49erJim
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Originally posted by njninersfan420:
Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by horsecore:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Wait, bodies? Fill me in.
PS - disgusting interview with Sandusky over the phone. He sounded DISGUSTING and completely guilty with pedophile tendencies. Listening to him try to say he's not into young boys made it sounds like he was SUPER into young boys.
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Source noted coach interest - w/ old man around, Sandusky trial, civil suits & fractured fanbase - isn't exactly brimming w/ good candidate
As long as remnants of Paterno era regime remain at Penn State, Bradley is set for life, along w/ other PSU lifers. Coach or not. #hushmoney
What self-respecting coach goes there w/ Paterno regime still in place? Like guillotine hanging over school that could drop at any moment
Even if Penn State administration, football & athletic dept employees let go, Paterno still lurking - and now we know his M.O. All about him
Source also said Governor in deep w/ Trustees which explains status quo. Gov. knew about Sandusky & is Trustee himself. Massive conspiracy.
I'm not throwing out anything informed Pennsylvania media doesn't already know or have an inkling about. Open secret. I will have more soon.
So if you're wondering why Governor hasn't cleaned house, now u kno. He's one of Trustees himself who gave Sandusky a pass. Moreso, actually
Doesn't explain the bodies part, though. But WOW the f**king GOVERNOR knew?! That is sickening.
This. Good god....it keeps getting worse.
But wait, Sportsfan says they have to prove they are all guilty with a jury in a court of law to be GUILITY!! You could have everyone looking the other way, maybe thats how this went on for sooo long, the school, HC all the other coaches, the BOD and police (haha they can be paid off easy) and now the STATE knew about this scumbag. If this is true and the case, everyone will get a free pass.
yea jim, ur not allowed to have an opinion untill they are proven guilty by a jury, so how dare u bring up evidence that hasnt been proven! oj and casey are also innocent in his mind.
well, OJ is innocent, not sure about that crazy lady tho!
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:45 PM
- Otter
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Originally posted by njninersfan420:
yea jim, ur not allowed to have an opinion untill they are proven guilty by a jury, so how dare u bring up evidence that hasnt been proven! oj and casey are also innocent in his mind.
Have any of these new stories been proven or supported with facts? I think it's fine to have an opinion on Paterno and McQueary and such. But this governor story seems odd.
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:50 PM
- LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by njninersfan420:
Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by horsecore:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Wait, bodies? Fill me in.
PS - disgusting interview with Sandusky over the phone. He sounded DISGUSTING and completely guilty with pedophile tendencies. Listening to him try to say he's not into young boys made it sounds like he was SUPER into young boys.
SPORTSbyBROOKS SPORTSbyBROOKS
Source noted coach interest - w/ old man around, Sandusky trial, civil suits & fractured fanbase - isn't exactly brimming w/ good candidate
As long as remnants of Paterno era regime remain at Penn State, Bradley is set for life, along w/ other PSU lifers. Coach or not. #hushmoney
What self-respecting coach goes there w/ Paterno regime still in place? Like guillotine hanging over school that could drop at any moment
Even if Penn State administration, football & athletic dept employees let go, Paterno still lurking - and now we know his M.O. All about him
Source also said Governor in deep w/ Trustees which explains status quo. Gov. knew about Sandusky & is Trustee himself. Massive conspiracy.
I'm not throwing out anything informed Pennsylvania media doesn't already know or have an inkling about. Open secret. I will have more soon.
So if you're wondering why Governor hasn't cleaned house, now u kno. He's one of Trustees himself who gave Sandusky a pass. Moreso, actually
Doesn't explain the bodies part, though. But WOW the f**king GOVERNOR knew?! That is sickening.
This. Good god....it keeps getting worse.
But wait, Sportsfan says they have to prove they are all guilty with a jury in a court of law to be GUILITY!! You could have everyone looking the other way, maybe thats how this went on for sooo long, the school, HC all the other coaches, the BOD and police (haha they can be paid off easy) and now the STATE knew about this scumbag. If this is true and the case, everyone will get a free pass.
yea jim, ur not allowed to have an opinion untill they are proven guilty by a jury, so how dare u bring up evidence that hasnt been proven! oj and casey are also innocent in his mind.
well, OJ is innocent, not sure about that crazy lady tho!
Here come tweedle dee and tweedle .... again making up stuff that I haven't said.
My stance has always been the same - wait until all the evidence has been presented and then make up your mind. You guys made up your mind the hour after the initial press release most likely.
Look at you guys. There is stuff being reported left and right and you are eating it up. If I were to believe everything that was reported so far the whole state of PA is filled with pedophiles. This is all just SENSATIONAL JOURNALISM right now. Not saying it won't end up being true at the end but right now I am taking the wait and see approach.
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:50 PM
- njninersfan420
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Originally posted by Otter:no, but sportsfan tried 2 say i couldnt have an opinion after reading the 23 page grand jury report(filled with testimonies from multiple witnesses, a mother whose child was raped and police officers that listened in to the convo between sandusky and the mother. i also looked at the timeline of events which chronicles each incident he had, where it was, and who knew about it. This is all solid evidence, but according to sportsfan im not allowed to look into it until the jury tries him. right now the Governor story is just speculation, u r right. i was just pointing out how ridiculous sportsfan has been in this thread.
Originally posted by njninersfan420:
yea jim, ur not allowed to have an opinion untill they are proven guilty by a jury, so how dare u bring up evidence that hasnt been proven! oj and casey are also innocent in his mind.
Have any of these new stories been proven or supported with facts? I think it's fine to have an opinion on Paterno and McQueary and such. But this governor story seems odd.
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:50 PM
- Joecool
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"Sexually attracted, you know, I enjoy young people. I love to be around them. But no, I'm not sexually attracted to young boys."
Man, I wonder what his definition of "young boys" is?
Man, I wonder what his definition of "young boys" is?
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM
- LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by njninersfan420:
Originally posted by Otter:no, but sportsfan tried 2 say i couldnt have an opinion after reading the 23 page grand jury report(filled with testimonies from multiple witnesses, a mother whose child was raped and police officers that listened in to the convo between sandusky and the mother. i also looked at the timeline of events which chronicles each incident he had, where it was, and who knew about it. This is all solid evidence, but according to sportsfan im not allowed to look into it until the jury tries him. right now the Governor story is just speculation, u r right. i was just pointing out how ridiculous sportsfan has been in this thread.
Originally posted by njninersfan420:
yea jim, ur not allowed to have an opinion untill they are proven guilty by a jury, so how dare u bring up evidence that hasnt been proven! oj and casey are also innocent in his mind.
Have any of these new stories been proven or supported with facts? I think it's fine to have an opinion on Paterno and McQueary and such. But this governor story seems odd.
I have stated this over and over and don't to sound mean but you obviously can't read. I am pretty sure I have at no point said you can't have an opinion. The fact is you have stated I can't by calling me blind, gullible, naive for not believing these guys are 100% guilty.
If you can find where I posted that you can't have the opinion you have then I will gladly apologize.
Nov 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by SportsFan:
Here come tweedle dee and tweedle .... again making up stuff that I haven't said.
My stance has always been the same - wait until all the evidence has been presented and then make up your mind. You guys made up your mind the hour after the initial press release most likely.
Look at you guys. There is stuff being reported left and right and you are eating it up. If I were to believe everything that was reported so far the whole state of PA is filled with pedophiles. This is all just SENSATIONAL JOURNALISM right now. Not saying it won't end up being true at the end but right now I am taking the wait and see approach.
What more do you need to know? LMAO! He already admitted to at least showering naked with young boys and touching them - twice! JoePa already admitted on camera that with hindsight he would've done more. Isn't that enough? If that was your son would you need to hear anything more than that? Even without taking the past jury trials into consideration, the present facts are enough to deem this man guilty of child molestation and Penn State as a whole should be held accountable for allowing this to continue.
Once these victims make their appearance visible and you see their face and hear their voices, you still see them more than just a label.