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2011 Oakland A's Thread

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by Harbaugh52:
Does anyone else think we should fire Billy Beane?

I mean seriously, what has he done since 2000-2004?

2004 traded Nelson Cruz for garbage
2005 traded Tim hudson for garbage again, i know we had to trade him cause of cash problems, but we couldnt get anyone better?
2005 Andre Ethier traded for Milton bradley bradley ended up getting DFAed

2008 We trade Carlos Gonzalez and Houston street for Matt holliday
and then Holliday for Brett Wallace, who we traded for Michael Taylor
Brett Wallace is batting .300 for the Astros, while Taylor is struggling in triple A

and all we do is sign washed up scrubs like Matsui

he has lost his touch

Oh yah and I forgot to mention him choosing to build our team around Chavez instead of tejada

holy $h!t, thats depressing

I agree with you that this chronology of Beane's handlings over the past half decade or so is pretty sh**ty. In order to keep this team in contention, he's gotta draft GREAT and pray that his trade returns (for the 1 year rental/turn-around guys) turn out. It's quite the gamble.

But to Beane's defense, it's so difficult to be a good GM when your hands are tied.

-Team ownership is NOT willing to spend the $$$$ necessary to bring in star players. You may hear of 1 A-/B+ guy each offseason, but we usually get the shaft.

-To the previous point, high- caliber FA's don't want to play 82 games in this "pitchers' park" of a football stadium. It's where hitters go to die. Who was our last consistent .300 hitter? Rajai Davis?? Ellis? Erubiel Durazo??? No offense to Mark Ellis...but these aren't franchise players.

-Nobody's falling for the "Moneyball" trade scenarios of yester-year. Opposing GM's are hip to the game, and using similar strategies.
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by Harbaugh52:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by Harbaugh52:
Does anyone else think we should fire Billy Beane?

I mean seriously, what has he done since 2000-2004?

2004 traded Nelson Cruz for garbage
2005 traded Tim hudson for garbage again, i know we had to trade him cause of cash problems, but we couldnt get anyone better?
2005 Andre Ethier traded for Milton bradley bradley ended up getting DFAed

2008 We trade Carlos Gonzalez and Houston street for Matt holliday
and then Holliday for Brett Wallace, who we traded for Michael Taylor
Brett Wallace is batting .300 for the Astros, while Taylor is struggling in triple A

and all we do is sign washed up scrubs like Matsui

he has lost his touch

Oh yah and I forgot to mention him choosing to build our team around Chavez instead of tejada

holy $h!t, thats depressing

it really is

you guys would of been in contention every year

dude imagine a line up full of Andre Ethier, Carlos Gonzalez, Coco Crisp, Jemile Weeks
with this pitching staff
[ Edited by Harbaugh52 on Jul 6, 2011 at 11:33 AM ]
Originally posted by Harbaugh52:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by Harbaugh52:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Originally posted by Harbaugh52:
Does anyone else think we should fire Billy Beane?

I mean seriously, what has he done since 2000-2004?

2004 traded Nelson Cruz for garbage
2005 traded Tim hudson for garbage again, i know we had to trade him cause of cash problems, but we couldnt get anyone better?
2005 Andre Ethier traded for Milton bradley bradley ended up getting DFAed

2008 We trade Carlos Gonzalez and Houston street for Matt holliday
and then Holliday for Brett Wallace, who we traded for Michael Taylor
Brett Wallace is batting .300 for the Astros, while Taylor is struggling in triple A

and all we do is sign washed up scrubs like Matsui

he has lost his touch

Oh yah and I forgot to mention him choosing to build our team around Chavez instead of tejada

holy $h!t, thats depressing

it really is

you guys would of been in contention every year

dude imagine a line up full of Andre Ethier, Carlos Gonzalez, Coco Crisp, Jemile Weeks
with this pitching staff

you would probably have 2-3 championships by now
I think this next series is make or break right now
Sizemore is a G
Moscoso with the LOCK today. 7IP, 2H, 0R, 1BB, 5K

Scott Sizemore has turned into our premier power hitter (HA!) with his 3rd HR today.

Yeah, this Texas series is definitely the "buy or sell" series for us. We face lefties in 3 out of the 4 games. Willingham is expected to be brought off the DL for this series. This likely means that either Carter or Rosales is being sent down tonight or tomorrow morning.

Being that the "big pickup", David DeJesus, is batting under .200 against lefties this season, I'm hoping to see Conor Jackson in right, with Carter at 1st and Matsui DH'ing. This lineup provides the most power that we've had all season.

After the break, we have the Angels next weekend, then we're on the road for 2 in the Motor City and 3 in the Big Apple. After the Yankees series, we return home before the trade deadline to play a 4-gamer vs Tampa, then 3 vs the Twins.
Yeah completely agree on both of your posts Jigga

This next series is make or break, if we get swept I won't watch a game for the rest of the season. If we win 3/4 that'd be great
There is not possible way we fire Beane with moneyball coming out in sept
Originally posted by socalfan21:
There is not possible way we fire Beane with moneyball coming out in sept

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

I dont think we'll ever fire him just because he's Billy Beane if you know what i mean?
Originally posted by Harbaugh52:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
There is not possible way we fire Beane with moneyball coming out in sept

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

I dont think we'll ever fire him just because he's Billy Beane if you know what i mean?

isn't he part-owner of the A's? if so he'd be difficult to fire
Originally posted by 49ersGiantspride:
Originally posted by Harbaugh52:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
There is not possible way we fire Beane with moneyball coming out in sept

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

I dont think we'll ever fire him just because he's Billy Beane if you know what i mean?

isn't he part-owner of the A's? if so he'd be difficult to fire

Oh crap he is. I didnt even know that

Well I guess hes staying forever
The biggest series of the year starting today for us

Rich Harden (1-0, 3.00 ERA) vs Derek Holland (6-4, 5.10 ERA)

Tomorrow: Gio Gonzalez (8-5, 2.31 ERA) vs CJ Wilson (8-3 3.10 ERA)

Saturday: Brandon McCarthy (1-5, 3.33 ERA) vs Colby lewis (8-7 4.29 ERA)

Sunday: Trevor Cahill (8-6, 3.17 ERA) vs Matt Harrison (6-7, 3.28 ERA)

Todays Lineup

1. Jemile Weeks (S) 2B
2. Coco Crisp (S) CF
3. Hideki Matsui (L) DH
4. Josh Willingham (R) LF
5. Scott Sizemore (R) 3B
6. Conor Jackson (R) RF
7. Chris Carter (R) 1B
8. Kurt Suzuki (R) C
9. Cliff Pennington (S) SS

First time weve used a lineup with Willingham, Conor, matsui and Carter in it

Excited to having Willingham and Balfour back.
RIP Dick Williams


Hall of Fame manager Dick Williams, who won two World Series titles with the Oakland Athletics and led two other franchises to pennants, has died. He was 82.

Sad day
This series could be the proverbial nail in the coffin. I am deciding to not watch the game tonight. Too depressing.