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If Brooks Bails, Bring Back Manny?

If we can't resign Brooks, how about resigning Larry Grant, move him to OLB or have him play in the middle and slide Bowman outside. Then draft someone to groom for the future say in the 3rd round.
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by WildBill:
If we can't resign Brooks, how about resigning Larry Grant, move him to OLB or have him play in the middle and slide Bowman outside. Then draft someone to groom for the future say in the 3rd round.
no. I think they will let brooks go if he gets greedy, make aldon full time starter, have harrelson for back up and then draft a nice rookie. would not rule out a free agent but i would rather them get a rookie to groom and let him learn behind aldon
My guess is Da Bungles will bring him back...in the games I saw, he played ok. If not, there should be enough other suitors. Personally, I'd rather have Brooks. Let's see how much our close call to the SB whets the appetites of our own FA's.
nope wont happen
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by WildBill:
If we can't resign Brooks, how about resigning Larry Grant, move him to OLB or have him play in the middle and slide Bowman outside. Then draft someone to groom for the future say in the 3rd round.
no. I think they will let brooks go if he gets greedy, make aldon full time starter, have harrelson for back up and then draft a nice rookie. would not rule out a free agent but i would rather them get a rookie to groom and let him learn behind aldon

+1
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Or if the Pats make it to the 2012/13 Superbowl and we have to defend against Gronk and Hernandez.....

I see what you did there

I can't believe next season is so far away. I might go home and tackle my kid.
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Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by WildBill:
If we can't resign Brooks, how about resigning Larry Grant, move him to OLB or have him play in the middle and slide Bowman outside. Then draft someone to groom for the future say in the 3rd round.
no. I think they will let brooks go if he gets greedy, make aldon full time starter, have harrelson for back up and then draft a nice rookie. would not rule out a free agent but i would rather them get a rookie to groom and let him learn behind aldon

+1

+1 again

MM states in this article http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/49ers-Mailbag-Brooks-replacement-already?blockID=655914&feedID=5936

That the 9ers will let walk Brooks if he gets to greedy because they believe Aldon can be an every down player this coming season. He'll play 2 downs as a standup OLB then move to pass rush DE on 3rd. He also believes they'll sign a pass rush specialist in FA and draft a rookie for depth.
[ Edited by sfout on Feb 22, 2012 at 2:40 PM ]
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by WildBill:
If we can't resign Brooks, how about resigning Larry Grant, move him to OLB or have him play in the middle and slide Bowman outside. Then draft someone to groom for the future say in the 3rd round.
no. I think they will let brooks go if he gets greedy, make aldon full time starter, have harrelson for back up and then draft a nice rookie. would not rule out a free agent but i would rather them get a rookie to groom and let him learn behind aldon

+1

+1 again

MM states in this article http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/49ers-Mailbag-Brooks-replacement-already?blockID=655914&feedID=5936

That the 9ers will let walk Brooks if he gets to greedy because they believe Aldon can be an every down player this coming season. He'll play 2 downs as a standup OLB then move to pass rush DE on 3rd. He also believes they'll sign a pass rush specialist in FA and draft a rookie for depth.

MM doesn't make sense with this article. Brooks/Smith play two totally different positions (in 2011; even they may be more interchangeable in 2012 with an open playbook) and in in totally different roles. Heck, one could argue one of the big reasons Smith had so much success was b/c Brooks was THE guys teams targeted for double teams all year, including the playoffs. Smith took advantage as a 3rd down rusher. Either way, Smith plays the WILL and Brooks plays the SAM. Now, next year, if Brooks leaves, that forces Smith to become a starter but at which position? The SAM? He's been rushing his entire career from the WILL spot on the weak side and over Justin Smith. Teams need to account for Justin Smith and Willis on that side and often times left Aldon to 1x1 blocking. If he moves to SAM, he's not going to be half as good at setting the edge as Brooks (lead team in TFL) and we'll lose a ton of underneath coverage. He'll also have to play more with "run" on his mind and in fear of screens b/c that's typically the side teams run to esp. when they add the extra TE (which Brooks played exceptional off all year setting the edge, knocking him off routes and blowing up screens and TFL). BIG DIFFERENCE.

If anything it would force Smith to be the FT starter at WILL and move Haralson back to SAM as a starter...both of which may be a step backwards for a while and force the team to garner depth in FA and the draft.

Ideally, you pay Brooks or franchise him and keep him at SAM and work Smith into the starting lineup at WILL and keep Haralson and a rookie/FA as rotation players. Goldson has some intangibles but he's not a complete player; his range blows esp. sideline-to-sideline and he can still get beat deep even playing 30 yards deep. He's best playing down hill in the box and in the middle of the field. And we didn't even match him up against the taller TE's last year. Wonder why? I can't tell you how many times he took poor angles or was late over the top. I like him...but if I had to choose between the two, I'm going with the more complete player, top to bottom and one who contributed to the secondary playing better/more aggressive! Front 7 trumps.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
LOL lawson sucks, when you play olb in a 3-4 your main job is to rush the passer and he cannot do that to save his life

thank god for fred. good job

Yeah, because Brooks record setting season high 7 sacks dwarfs Lawson's measily 6.5 forgetable sack season....derp.....

With that said, this isn't a debate about Brooks vs Lawson....

Well it's hard to spark a normal debate in a thread as ridiculous as this one... With that being said, this is a debate between Brooks vs. Lawson, or did you forget that you put both of their names in the thread title...

P.S- Lawson SUCKED when he played in the 3-4 here, he played in the 4-3 last year in Cincy and had a good year, and that's the only reason he's being discussed in this thread, because of his success last year in a 4-3 system.
Originally posted by HoneyBadger49er:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
LOL lawson sucks, when you play olb in a 3-4 your main job is to rush the passer and he cannot do that to save his life

thank god for fred. good job

Yeah, because Brooks record setting season high 7 sacks dwarfs Lawson's measily 6.5 forgetable sack season....derp.....

With that said, this isn't a debate about Brooks vs Lawson....

Well it's hard to spark a normal debate in a thread as ridiculous as this one... With that being said, this is a debate between Brooks vs. Lawson, or did you forget that you put both of their names in the thread title...

P.S- Lawson SUCKED when he played in the 3-4 here, he played in the 4-3 last year in Cincy and had a good year, and that's the only reason he's being discussed in this thread, because of his success last year in a 4-3 system.
The Title: If Brooks Bails (as in if he leaves us), Bring back Manny (as in to replace a missing piece).

Reading Comprehension; get some.

Anyway, as the maker of this thread I can tell you that Lawsons year in Cincy has nothing to do with my suggestion, unless of course you're claiming to know my most intimate thoughts......
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Feb 22, 2012 at 3:09 PM ]
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by HoneyBadger49er:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
LOL lawson sucks, when you play olb in a 3-4 your main job is to rush the passer and he cannot do that to save his life

thank god for fred. good job

Yeah, because Brooks record setting season high 7 sacks dwarfs Lawson's measily 6.5 forgetable sack season....derp.....

With that said, this isn't a debate about Brooks vs Lawson....

Well it's hard to spark a normal debate in a thread as ridiculous as this one... With that being said, this is a debate between Brooks vs. Lawson, or did you forget that you put both of their names in the thread title...

P.S- Lawson SUCKED when he played in the 3-4 here, he played in the 4-3 last year in Cincy and had a good year, and that's the only reason he's being discussed in this thread, because of his success last year in a 4-3 system.
The Title: If Brooks Bails (as in if he leaves us), Bring back Manny (as in to replace a missing piece).

Reading Comprehension; get some.

Anyway, as the maker of this thread I can tell you that Lawsons year in Cincy has nothing to do with my suggestion, unless of course you're claiming to know my most intimate thoughts......

No thanks, I don't want to get into anyones head who has no f**king clue what they are talking about.

So since it wasn't based on last year you want to bring him back based on what he did with the 49ers before? which was jack s**t.... or is it because his Madden rating says he's a good fit for the team.

Logical thinking- Get some
[ Edited by HoneyBadger49er on Feb 22, 2012 at 3:12 PM ]
Originally posted by HoneyBadger49er:
No thanks, I don't want to get into anyones head who has no f**king clue what they are talking about.

So since it wasn't based on last year you want to bring him back based on what he did with the 49ers before? which was jack s**t.... or is it because his Madden rating says he's a good fit for the team.

Logical thinking- Get some

By "logica thinking" do you mean change my opinion of his play to match yours? Yep, thats what I thought.

I suppose I could continue to repeat myself, but if you didn't understand the OP, I doubt further explination would make a difference.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by HoneyBadger49er:
No thanks, I don't want to get into anyones head who has no f**king clue what they are talking about.

So since it wasn't based on last year you want to bring him back based on what he did with the 49ers before? which was jack s**t.... or is it because his Madden rating says he's a good fit for the team.

Logical thinking- Get some

By "logica thinking" do you mean change my opinion of his play to match yours? Yep, thats what I thought.

I suppose I could continue to repeat myself, but if you didn't understand the OP, I doubt further explination would make a difference.

translation: "if you disagree with me don't post in this thread". Seriously dude you asked what people thought, we're saying we think it's a bad idea and he was a bust as an OLB in a 3-4, if you don't like it too bad bro
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by HoneyBadger49er:
No thanks, I don't want to get into anyones head who has no f**king clue what they are talking about.

So since it wasn't based on last year you want to bring him back based on what he did with the 49ers before? which was jack s**t.... or is it because his Madden rating says he's a good fit for the team.

Logical thinking- Get some

By "logica thinking" do you mean change my opinion of his play to match yours? Yep, thats what I thought.

I suppose I could continue to repeat myself, but if you didn't understand the OP, I doubt further explination would make a difference.

translation: "if you disagree with me don't post in this thread". Seriously dude you asked what people thought, we're saying we think it's a bad idea and he was a bust as an OLB in a 3-4, if you don't like it too bad bro


Based on your response I'm going to assume you have an axe to grind with me.....
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by HoneyBadger49er:
No thanks, I don't want to get into anyones head who has no f**king clue what they are talking about.

So since it wasn't based on last year you want to bring him back based on what he did with the 49ers before? which was jack s**t.... or is it because his Madden rating says he's a good fit for the team.

Logical thinking- Get some

By "logica thinking" do you mean change my opinion of his play to match yours? Yep, thats what I thought.

I suppose I could continue to repeat myself, but if you didn't understand the OP, I doubt further explination would make a difference.

translation: "if you disagree with me don't post in this thread". Seriously dude you asked what people thought, we're saying we think it's a bad idea and he was a bust as an OLB in a 3-4, if you don't like it too bad bro


Based on your response I'm going to assume you have an axe to grind with me.....

lol nope. Why would that be?