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Do you want to win on Sunday against the Cardinals?

Do you want to win on Sunday against the Cardinals?

Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

4 out of 8 huh, thats 50% whuch is saying a lot for any draft pick at any number let alone a qb, I'll take those odds, so far we're 0 for 1 with alex smith, by your odds we're due. its funny that all of those teams save the raiders or the lions have made the playoffs at some point over the last 8 years,and the rams are about to make it this year......unlike us. BTW didnt mean to post this so many times, my internet is acting up, sorry

[ Edited by qwestlove94 on Dec 28, 2010 at 01:07:57 ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

If you look at history you also have...

~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.

Who were taken real high.

Johnny Unitas --9th round
Joe Montana --3rd round
Tom Brady --6th round

[ Edited by StOnEy333 on Dec 28, 2010 at 01:07:52 ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

If you look at history you also have...

~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.

Who were taken real high.

Ryan Leaf
Tim Couch
David Carr

Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

4 out of 8 huh, thats 50% whuch is saying a lot for any draft pick at any number let alone a qb, I'll take those odds, so far we're 0 for 1 with alex smith, by your odds we're due. its funny that all of those teams save the raiders or the lions have made the playoffs at some point over the last 8 years,and the rams are about to make it this year......unlike us.

I'd like to go for a safer, less likely to be a bust draft pick in the first round. Go get that shutdown Corner Back. With around a 10th overall pick, there should still be a great one available with everyone needing a QB. And they'll be a QB frenzy in the top 10 I'm sure.

This draft has great depth at QB. We could easily get a good one in the 2nd or 3rd round. I don't want another hit or miss at QB.
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

If you look at history you also have...

~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.

Who were taken real high.

Ryan Leaf
Tim Couch
David Carr


The history clearly shows that high draft pick QB's (especially #1's) most often don't work out. There are a few exceptions, but the facts clearly show that it's not wise to draft QB's early.
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

4 out of 8 huh, thats 50% whuch is saying a lot for any draft pick at any number let alone a qb, I'll take those odds, so far we're 0 for 1 with alex smith, by your odds we're due. its funny that all of those teams save the raiders or the lions have made the playoffs at some point over the last 8 years,and the rams are about to make it this year......unlike us.

I'd like to go for a safer, less likely to be a bust draft pick in the first round. Go get that shutdown Corner Back. With around a 10th overall pick, there should still be a great one available with everyone needing a QB. And they'll be a QB frenzy in the top 10 I'm sure.

This draft has great depth at QB. We could easily get a good one in the 2nd or 3rd round. I don't want another hit or miss at QB.



I disagree, Amukamara and peterson will be gon by the 10th pick, after that there are no more shutdown corners, Im not even sure if Amukamara is a shutdown corner.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

If you look at history you also have...

~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.

Who were taken real high.

ok well if I go back EVEN FURTHER, I will find alot more QB's who were taken real high that didn't pan out so what's your point? My point is, just because we pick in the top 10 don't mean squat. It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.

Peyton (1 overall) 1 SB Tom Brady (6th round) 2 SB's

Troy Aikman (1 Overall) 3 SB's Joe Montana (3rd round) 4 SB's

John Elway (1 overall) 2 SB's Ben Rothlisberger (11th overall) 2 SB's

So there are plenty more successful QB's that have not been drafted high
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

4 out of 8 huh, thats 50% whuch is saying a lot for any draft pick at any number let alone a qb, I'll take those odds, so far we're 0 for 1 with alex smith, by your odds we're due. its funny that all of those teams save the raiders or the lions have made the playoffs at some point over the last 8 years,and the rams are about to make it this year......unlike us. BTW didnt mean to post this so many times, my internet is acting up, sorry

Its actually 4 out of 5 who have actually had time to prove to be franchise QB with Matt Ryan being the only one. Stafford, Sanchez and Bradford were JUST drafted and neither Stafford or Sanchez has looked so hot
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

If you look at history you also have...

~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.

Who were taken real high.

ok well if I go back EVEN FURTHER, I will find alot more QB's who were taken real high that didn't pan out so what's your point? My point is, just because we pick in the top 10 don't mean squat. It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.

Peyton (1 overall) 1 SB Tom Brady (6th round) 2 SB's

Troy Aikman (1 Overall) 3 SB's Joe Montana (3rd round) 4 SB's

John Elway (1 overall) 2 SB's Ben Rothlisberger (11th overall) 2 SB's

So there are plenty more successful QB's that have not been drafted high



LOL. #11 overall is real high with RapeBerger. That's a top 15 pick and just outside the top 10 barely. How is that not a real high pick?...
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

4 out of 8 huh, thats 50% whuch is saying a lot for any draft pick at any number let alone a qb, I'll take those odds, so far we're 0 for 1 with alex smith, by your odds we're due. its funny that all of those teams save the raiders or the lions have made the playoffs at some point over the last 8 years,and the rams are about to make it this year......unlike us.

I'd like to go for a safer, less likely to be a bust draft pick in the first round. Go get that shutdown Corner Back. With around a 10th overall pick, there should still be a great one available with everyone needing a QB. And they'll be a QB frenzy in the top 10 I'm sure.

This draft has great depth at QB. We could easily get a good one in the 2nd or 3rd round. I don't want another hit or miss at QB.



I disagree, Amukamara and peterson will be gon by the 10th pick, after that there are no more shutdown corners, Im not even sure if Amukamara is a shutdown corner.

I'd be willing to bet one of them would fall. Tackles and QBs go like crazy in the top 10 normally. If not, we could always get that pass rusher we've been needing for the past decade. Problem with pass rushers is he will be a hit or miss, just like a QB... just not as severe of consequences. And if we get a good pass rusher, it'll just make Willis and Spikes that much better, not to mention Nate Clements.

[ Edited by ElDannMann on Dec 28, 2010 at 01:37:37 ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

If you look at history you also have...

~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.

Who were taken real high.

ok well if I go back EVEN FURTHER, I will find alot more QB's who were taken real high that didn't pan out so what's your point? My point is, just because we pick in the top 10 don't mean squat. It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.

Peyton (1 overall) 1 SB Tom Brady (6th round) 2 SB's

Troy Aikman (1 Overall) 3 SB's Joe Montana (3rd round) 4 SB's

John Elway (1 overall) 2 SB's Ben Rothlisberger (11th overall) 2 SB's

So there are plenty more successful QB's that have not been drafted high



LOL. #11 overall is real high with RapeBerger. That's a top 15 pick and just outside the top 10 barely. How is that not a real high pick?...

the argument was the QB's drafted in the top 10 (where we will be picking if we lose to the Cardinals) and how the majority of them have been BUSTS. If we win, we will be drafting outside the top 10 (where Rothlisberger was drafted) and we still have could land a Franchise QB

[ Edited by Sims84 on Dec 28, 2010 at 01:40:15 ]
I want this team to win every damn week ------ but if we were to lose I certainly can

find some consolation in a better draft position.
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sims84:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by qwestlove94:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:




This.




Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

If you look at history you also have...

~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.

Who were taken real high.

ok well if I go back EVEN FURTHER, I will find alot more QB's who were taken real high that didn't pan out so what's your point? My point is, just because we pick in the top 10 don't mean squat. It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.

Peyton (1 overall) 1 SB Tom Brady (6th round) 2 SB's

Troy Aikman (1 Overall) 3 SB's Joe Montana (3rd round) 4 SB's

John Elway (1 overall) 2 SB's Ben Rothlisberger (11th overall) 2 SB's

So there are plenty more successful QB's that have not been drafted high



LOL. #11 overall is real high with RapeBerger. That's a top 15 pick and just outside the top 10 barely. How is that not a real high pick?...

the argument was the QB's drafted in the top 10 (where we will be picking if we lose to the Cardinals) and how the majority of them have been BUST. If we win, we will be drafting outside the top 10 (where Rothlisberger was drafted) and we still have could land a Franchise QB

It's unusual to get a QB of the talent level and skill level of RAPEberger at #11 overall. He came from a smaller conference. So he wasn't as hyped. If he was in a major conference you would be talking about the #1 pick. He's the exception. Not the rule.
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Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.



yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.

The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.

The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.

You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.



Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12

yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises

Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good

Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's

If you look at history you also have...

~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.

Who were taken real high.

ok well if I go back EVEN FURTHER, I will find alot more QB's who were taken real high that didn't pan out so what's your point? My point is, just because we pick in the top 10 don't mean squat. It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.

Peyton (1 overall) 1 SB Tom Brady (6th round) 2 SB's

Troy Aikman (1 Overall) 3 SB's Joe Montana (3rd round) 4 SB's

John Elway (1 overall) 2 SB's Ben Rothlisberger (11th overall) 2 SB's

So there are plenty more successful QB's that have not been drafted high



LOL. #11 overall is real high with RapeBerger. That's a top 15 pick and just outside the top 10 barely. How is that not a real high pick?...

the argument was the QB's drafted in the top 10 (where we will be picking if we lose to the Cardinals) and how the majority of them have been BUST. If we win, we will be drafting outside the top 10 (where Rothlisberger was drafted) and we still have could land a Franchise QB

It's unusual to get a QB of the talent level and skill level of RAPEberger at #11 overall. He came from a smaller conference. So he wasn't as hyped. If he was in a major conference you would be talking about the #1 pick. He's the exception. Not the rule.

Ok, so what? he still was not drafted in the TOP 10 no matter how you look at it. Add Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch and Akili Smith to the ones who were drafted in the top 10..................... History shows more QB BUSTS in the top 10 than Franchise QB's so losing to the Cardinals on sunday doesn't guarantee squat