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This.
Duhhh, thats obviously what every nfl player should be doing every week, but the question wasnt about whether the players or coaching staff want to win or not. Winning this game is like turning an f- into anf f+ or being the smartest kid on the short bus. It only hurts us in the long run.
yea, u should use both those palms to slap yourself back into reality.
The reality is that getting a higher draft pick doesn't mean you're getting a better player. Look at the Lions. How many busts do they have this past decade? Not to mention most of their picks are top5 picks.
The reality is that the #5 pick is as much of a crap shoot as the #6 pick... or the #12 pick.
You play to win the game. Not to win the draft positioning.
Uhh, I dont know about you but id take calvin johnson or Suh in a heartbeat. Like it or not we need a franchise qb and all the viable candidates will be off the board by pick 12
yeah because the QB's taken in the top 10 since 2005 have really done wonders for their Franchises
Alex Smith (1 overall) 49ers STILL need a QB
Vince Young (3 overall) Titans STILL need a QB
Matt Lienart (10 overall) Cardinals STILL need a QB
Jamarcus Russell (1 overall) Raiders STILL need a QB
Matt Ryan (3 overall) Franchise QB
Matthew Stafford (1 overall) too early to tell but looks to be injury prone
Mark Sanchez (5 overall) too early to tell but hasn't looked too great on a team with a TON of talent
Sam Bradford (1 overall) too early to tell but so far so good
Those are all the QB's that were taken in the top 10 since 2005 and its not looking so promising as 4 of the 8 STILL need to find their QB's
If you look at history you also have...
~ Peyton Manning.
~ Troy Aikman.
~ John Elway.
Who were taken real high.
ok well if I go back EVEN FURTHER, I will find alot more QB's who were taken real high that didn't pan out so what's your point? My point is, just because we pick in the top 10 don't mean squat. It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.
Peyton (1 overall) 1 SB Tom Brady (6th round) 2 SB's
Troy Aikman (1 Overall) 3 SB's Joe Montana (3rd round) 4 SB's
John Elway (1 overall) 2 SB's Ben Rothlisberger (11th overall) 2 SB's
So there are plenty more successful QB's that have not been drafted high
LOL. #11 overall is real high with RapeBerger. That's a top 15 pick and just outside the top 10 barely. How is that not a real high pick?...
the argument was the QB's drafted in the top 10 (where we will be picking if we lose to the Cardinals) and how the majority of them have been BUST. If we win, we will be drafting outside the top 10 (where Rothlisberger was drafted) and we still have could land a Franchise QB
It's unusual to get a QB of the talent level and skill level of RAPEberger at #11 overall. He came from a smaller conference. So he wasn't as hyped. If he was in a major conference you would be talking about the #1 pick. He's the exception. Not the rule.
Ok, so what? he still was not drafted in the TOP 10 no matter how you look at it. Add Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch and Akili Smith to the ones who were drafted in the top 10..................... History shows more QB BUSTS in the top 10 than Franchise QB's so losing to the Cardinals on sunday doesn't guarantee squat
Look at Sam Bradford from last year. He's pretty much owning the division with what was the absolute worst talent in the league last year...
jk
and yeah he is having a good year THIS YEAR but you have named 4 guys drafted in the top 10 that have turned out to be good (Manning, Elway, Aikman) are proven. Bradford has not proven anything as of yet. He hasn't even completed a season yet but he is showing good signs in that conservative offense they have. I named Alex, Russell, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, Matt Lienart, Vince Young with Sanchez and Stafford being up for debate. Looks like there are more BUSTS in the top 10 than there are Franchise QB's........... like I have been saying 
Just because he is the best QB in the division doesn't mean he is a Franchise QB. Now I do think he will be successful but there is no telling what may happen. He might get injured like Stafford and not being able to fully recover so RIGHT NOW, after 15 games, NO he is not a Franchise QB from THIS YEARS (2010) draft. NEXT years draft will be in 2011 and LAST YEARS (2009) draft was exactly that, LAST YEAR....but you ask if I'm DENSE??? LMAO 