Post Game Analysis (vs. Green Bay Packers)

Originally posted by 49er4life:

Originally posted by SanFranAddic:
We still don't have a legitimate starting caliber QB on this team.

True, though I would like to see us keep Troy as our #2.

I agree.

Originally posted by 190836:
The idiot Jed York spoke again, per Matt maiocco's twitt,
49ers team president Jed York said he still believes 49ers can win NFC West. There will be no changes, York said.

This is a good thing. I know everyone hates Sing and wants his ass out the door (me included), but can you imagine if MJ came in........decided to give Alex Smith another shot, and the team ended up winning 3 of its last 4 to end the season (sound familiar ?).....

Jed and Co. would be convinced (as usual) that the Niners have turned a page, would likely give MJ an extension (he's cheap).....sign Alex Smith to another contract, and we go back to square one for another 3 seasons.

This team needs to go down in flames, and Sing's incompetence assures that......and guarantees that he and Alex Smith will get the boot at season's end.

Originally posted by ZRF80:
I think front management needs to WITNESS just how bad this team really is. For the past 5 years, the s**t we've put forth on the field has given hope by playing good at season's end. That gives the front office the impression that we are ready to take it to the next level, and they let things be.

It's about time this ship sank, along with Sing, Manusky, Alex Smith, and everyone else thats been holding this team back for the past 7 years. If anything good cam,e from the Nolan era, it was that he put some pieces in place for the long haul. Hopefully, we keep our 3 headed monster (running backs) in check, and keep our LB core intact.

What we need is a coach that can put all the pieces together and make it work. I know some people feel that Harbaugh is the right choice, but how different is he from any other inexperienced head coach ? We'll be taking a shot in the dark, as we have been since 2005..........and this is NOT what this team needs.

Gruden has proven he can take a mess, and transform it into an acceptable unit. He did it in Oakland with a washed up Gannon, Tim Brown, Bruce Garner, and Jerry Rice. He took TB to its first Superbowl win after Dungy failed at it in years prior.

He is the right fit for this team. He knows offense.......he will draft a good young QB to develop.....sign a vet (possibly Kolb or McNabb) to buy us time to develop that young QB, and utilize all our pieces in the form of the WCO (thus promoting our "legacy" as Steve Young alluded to earlier this week).

No more tradeoffs, guessing games, shots in the dark. Its time to win, and we due it by purging the garbage on this roster. Out with Sing, MJ, Manusky. Out with Alex Smith, Goldson, Rachal, and every other POS on this roster that has not contributed accordingly.

The West is still young and naive, and can still be won quite easily for the next 2-3 years. We dont need to build from the bottom up. We need to rebuild from top down. And that is a lot easier to do than the s**t Bill Walsh had to work with back when he joined the team.

Kolb would cost way to much to trade for and McNabb was extended. Looking for good vets may no be a possibility. I would argue that he took Tony's team to the Superbowl, he didn't build them from scratch.

Originally posted by chico49erfan:
NFL Veteran HC.

Wade Phillips for DC.

I'll give Mike Johnson another chance -- I really don't know if he's calling the plays 100% without Singletary blocking his gameplan.

However, if it is MJ doing it, scrap him for someone else.

New DB coach, please.
New QB coach, please.
New LB coach, please.

You're better off naming the coaches you're keeping dude. Too much garbage to name all the ones you're getting rid of.

Originally posted by 190836:
So coach, why did you opt to run the ball three times before the half with 56 seconds on the clock?

Coach: I don't know, I'll have to look at the film.

Originally posted by BobS:
Only down 14-13 at half and then get blown out in the second half. How many times has that happened this year?

The coaching is bad, very bad. How do you not go for two points and tieing the game when you have the opportunty do so?

How in the hell, can you ever justify a decision to not go for the opportunity to tie a game when given the chance? How can someone rightfully justify turning away that opportunity?

That is not a conservative philosophy, it is a LOSING philosophy. You are turning down an opportunity to tie a game with the only downside to trying and failing being down by two points instead of one, you are CONCEDING the win to another at that moment.........how can it be that happens in pro football? How can you concede to allowing the other team the win by your choice at any moment in the game? You never, ever, ever choose to lose, at any moment. If you can tie a f**king game, you go tie it, you don't choose to tie it or win it later, you take it when you can, you don't ever turn it down.

Mind boggling, absolutely mind numbing, pull your hair out, crazy making s**t.

Originally posted by ZRF80:

Originally posted by 190836:
The idiot Jed York spoke again, per Matt maiocco's twitt,
49ers team president Jed York said he still believes 49ers can win NFC West. There will be no changes, York said.

This is a good thing. I know everyone hates Sing and wants his ass out the door (me included), but can you imagine if MJ came in........decided to give Alex Smith another shot, and the team ended up winning 3 of its last 4 to end the season (sound familiar ?).....

Jed and Co. would be convinced (as usual) that the Niners have turned a page, would likely give MJ an extension (he's cheap).....sign Alex Smith to another contract, and we go back to square one for another 3 seasons.

This team needs to go down in flames, and Sing's incompetence assures that......and guarantees that he and Alex Smith will get the boot at season's end.

For sure! Please don't throw Alex back in there to muddle up the decision choices.

[ Edited by DownInTheCity on Dec 5, 2010 at 13:58:25 ]

Originally posted by bakefootball:

Originally posted by 9er2k:

Originally posted by Blitz:

Originally posted by suso365:
I'm sick of all these blame the coach posts. What would you have the coach do differently? It's easy to say it's all sings fault, but where are the examples? The defense gives up too many big plays simple, end of discussion.

No, it's not that damn simple. The offense misses opportunities, the defense gest put in terrible situations week in and week out.

Its very simple you go in at halftime and say we are doing this good and that not good and adjust like every team starting with Kansas City has done to us at halftime but we just stay the course

Bill Cowher said that we have a very talented team on the CBS post game show today, which I was kinda suprised to here him say.

I strongly believe our coaching is the problem not the players. The coaches are supposed to game plan to put the players in miss matches so they can be successfull, this does not happen on the 9ers. Look at the Patriots, Brady was hert for a whole year, they pluged in Cassell and the offense never skipped a beat. I could talk for a long time about why our coaches suck but I don't have the energy! Just read all of the other posts about why our coaches suck!

I have always think that coaching is a problem with the 49ers. Alex Smith and Troy Smith are not caliber-A type of QBs, but they should play better in a well-coached team. Before the year, I had a wait-and-see attitude toward Singletary, but it's clear that he has to go. The problem is that the 49ers coaching staff has no one who is ready to step in, therefore the impasse.

Originally posted by GoalLineStand:

Originally posted by 190836:
So coach, why did you opt to run the ball three times before the half with 56 seconds on the clock?

Coach: I don't know, I'll have to look at the film.

Originally posted by bakefootball:

Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
from twitter (after game):

MaioccoCSN 49ers team president Jed York said he still believes 49ers can win NFC West. There will be no changes, York said.

As if that's sayin somthing! Who cares if we win this crappy divison... What does winning this divison possibly prove!

This why our organization sucks!... the organization is satisfied with mediocracy!

We're basically aiming to be the new Arizona Cardinals (when they had Warner). Do just good enough to get in.

Originally posted by GoalLineStand:

Originally posted by 190836:
So coach, why did you opt to run the ball three times before the half with 56 seconds on the clock?

Coach: I don't know, I'll have to look at the film.

Apparently he said it 5x in his post game.

Originally posted by chico49erfan:
NFL Veteran HC.

Wade Phillips for DC.

I'll give Mike Johnson another chance -- I really don't know if he's calling the plays 100% without Singletary blocking his gameplan.

However, if it is MJ doing it, scrap him for someone else.

New DB coach, please.
New QB coach, please.
New LB coach, please.

If it's a new, competent GM making those decisions I'm all for it--they look pretty reasonable to me.

However, if we do not hire a functional GM (as I suspect will be the case) then I think you have to hire the HC with the understanding that he gets to assemble the staff that he wants. No questions asked, no interference from above.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by ZRF80:
I think front management needs to WITNESS just how bad this team really is. For the past 5 years, the s**t we've put forth on the field has given hope by playing good at season's end. That gives the front office the impression that we are ready to take it to the next level, and they let things be.

It's about time this ship sank, along with Sing, Manusky, Alex Smith, and everyone else thats been holding this team back for the past 7 years. If anything good cam,e from the Nolan era, it was that he put some pieces in place for the long haul. Hopefully, we keep our 3 headed monster (running backs) in check, and keep our LB core intact.

What we need is a coach that can put all the pieces together and make it work. I know some people feel that Harbaugh is the right choice, but how different is he from any other inexperienced head coach ? We'll be taking a shot in the dark, as we have been since 2005..........and this is NOT what this team needs.

Gruden has proven he can take a mess, and transform it into an acceptable unit. He did it in Oakland with a washed up Gannon, Tim Brown, Bruce Garner, and Jerry Rice. He took TB to its first Superbowl win after Dungy failed at it in years prior.

He is the right fit for this team. He knows offense.......he will draft a good young QB to develop.....sign a vet (possibly Kolb or McNabb) to buy us time to develop that young QB, and utilize all our pieces in the form of the WCO (thus promoting our "legacy" as Steve Young alluded to earlier this week).

No more tradeoffs, guessing games, shots in the dark. Its time to win, and we due it by purging the garbage on this roster. Out with Sing, MJ, Manusky. Out with Alex Smith, Goldson, Rachal, and every other POS on this roster that has not contributed accordingly.

The West is still young and naive, and can still be won quite easily for the next 2-3 years. We dont need to build from the bottom up. We need to rebuild from top down. And that is a lot easier to do than the s**t Bill Walsh had to work with back when he joined the team.

Kolb would cost way to much to trade for and McNabb was extended. Looking for good vets may no be a possibility. I would argue that he took Tony's team to the Superbowl, he didn't build them from scratch.

In many coaches/analysts/players/fans point of view, Tony Dungy is considered to be a better coach than Jon Gruden. The difference in TB was that Dungy could not get his team over the top. Gruden didnt change much from when he took over, and although you could argue that Gruden took Dungy's team to the SB, we could also interpret it as Gruden finishing what Dungy couldnt. The reason I feel comfortable saying that is because Gruden did a similar job in Oakland. He took a team of has-beens and made them into contenders. He has the fire and the knowledge to be a great NFL coach. Even when the Miami rumors were swirling earlier this week, the majority of analysts had a laugh......everyone knew that it would be a waste of Gruden's talents for him to "downgrade" himself to college level ball.

As for a vet pickup, another reason why I like Gruden's system. He took 2 guys with average skills (Gannon and Johnson), and made them probowlers. He doesnt require the best arm or leg(s) in his QB position. His scheme is simple enough that teams can execute it within one year of implementation. Yeah, having a McNabb or a Kolb would be a pipedream (and Gruden might be the job to pull off those trades, as McNabb's situation is precarious in Was, and Kolb seems to be playing second fiddle to Vick in Phi), but Gruden is more than capable of finding the right guy to cover the bases until a future prospectis developed.

Originally posted by GoalLineStand:

Originally posted by 190836:
So coach, why did you opt to run the ball three times before the half with 56 seconds on the clock?

Coach: I don't know, I'll have to look at the film.

man this joke is getting old

-9fA

St. Louis and Seattle are losing right now. If both lose we'll still be one back.