football players=slaves??

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by aclarke49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I dont think slaves got paid millions of dollars

This is the first thing I thought of when I read it. I also like the comment where he feels players are being "ripped off". What a f**king joke! Isn't the minimum non-star player wage somewhere in the $200k/year range?

I don't give a s**t how much the owners are making. Its their business and they should be interested in being as profitable as possible. I think it would be absurd for me to go to my boss and say I need more of the companies cut because it is more profitable.

The players need a f**king reality check and need to come down to our world in its current economic s**t-hole that we are in. They will quickly realize they should be grateful for what they have.

the owners aren't being unrealistic about the economic s**thole that we're in? They seem to believe they are entitled to make a record profit every year no matter what and that when they don't they are "hurting."

This is America. They are entitled to do whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible. So am I and so are you. God bless America.

its a nice sentiment, but not really how it works (Bernie Madoff is the first example to pop into my head). But sure, I can agree with you in general terms, but that would include the players, too, doing "whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible." No?

Definitely! The difference is that they don't own any part of the business, they are employees. What do we as employees do if we don't like our job? If they don't like theirs, they can go flip burgers and try to pay their mansions with that wage.

They have more bargaining ability than you do, what with the league being about them, which is why there's bargaining going on.

Exactly.

No One pays $16000 for seats to watch you flip burgers.

It's true. They can try to improve their wages, but they should also realize how good they have it. I, for one, have no sympathy for their cause. Do you know what higher pay for them means for us? High ticket prices, etc.

The truth is, if they don't feel like they are compensated enough for their work, they should try to find the same compensation doing something else. If they can great. If they can't stop winning because you have it WAY better than the vast majority of the world's population.

I am going to spend my time supporting the real laborers who actually do something productive for our society.

They only play a game....

Why would they try to find a different job when they get paid very well to do this one?

I hate this idea that someone should just not use any bargaining power they have at their disposal. If they can try to get more money, good for them. "They should realize how good they have it". They do. They also realize how much better they can have it, and since they're grownups and they're allowed to negotiate, that's what they do.

They also only have a short time to make this money, so they want to make the most of it.

Yes, they have it better than most of the world. That's life for people that generate a ton of money.

If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by aclarke49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I dont think slaves got paid millions of dollars

This is the first thing I thought of when I read it. I also like the comment where he feels players are being "ripped off". What a f**king joke! Isn't the minimum non-star player wage somewhere in the $200k/year range?

I don't give a s**t how much the owners are making. Its their business and they should be interested in being as profitable as possible. I think it would be absurd for me to go to my boss and say I need more of the companies cut because it is more profitable.

The players need a f**king reality check and need to come down to our world in its current economic s**t-hole that we are in. They will quickly realize they should be grateful for what they have.

the owners aren't being unrealistic about the economic s**thole that we're in? They seem to believe they are entitled to make a record profit every year no matter what and that when they don't they are "hurting."

This is America. They are entitled to do whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible. So am I and so are you. God bless America.

its a nice sentiment, but not really how it works (Bernie Madoff is the first example to pop into my head). But sure, I can agree with you in general terms, but that would include the players, too, doing "whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible." No?

Definitely! The difference is that they don't own any part of the business, they are employees. What do we as employees do if we don't like our job? If they don't like theirs, they can go flip burgers and try to pay their mansions with that wage.

They have more bargaining ability than you do, what with the league being about them, which is why there's bargaining going on.

Exactly.

No One pays $16000 for seats to watch you flip burgers.

It's true. They can try to improve their wages, but they should also realize how good they have it. I, for one, have no sympathy for their cause. Do you know what higher pay for them means for us? High ticket prices, etc.

The truth is, if they don't feel like they are compensated enough for their work, they should try to find the same compensation doing something else. If they can great. If they can't stop winning because you have it WAY better than the vast majority of the world's population.

I am going to spend my time supporting the real laborers who actually do something productive for our society.

They only play a game....

Why would they try to find a different job when they get paid very well to do this one?

I hate this idea that someone should just not use any bargaining power they have at their disposal. If they can try to get more money, good for them. "They should realize how good they have it". They do. They also realize how much better they can have it, and since they're grownups and they're allowed to negotiate, that's what they do.

They also only have a short time to make this money, so they want to make the most of it.

Yes, they have it better than most of the world. That's life for people that generate a ton of money.

If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

they aren't on strike.

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by aclarke49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I dont think slaves got paid millions of dollars

This is the first thing I thought of when I read it. I also like the comment where he feels players are being "ripped off". What a f**king joke! Isn't the minimum non-star player wage somewhere in the $200k/year range?

I don't give a s**t how much the owners are making. Its their business and they should be interested in being as profitable as possible. I think it would be absurd for me to go to my boss and say I need more of the companies cut because it is more profitable.

The players need a f**king reality check and need to come down to our world in its current economic s**t-hole that we are in. They will quickly realize they should be grateful for what they have.

the owners aren't being unrealistic about the economic s**thole that we're in? They seem to believe they are entitled to make a record profit every year no matter what and that when they don't they are "hurting."

This is America. They are entitled to do whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible. So am I and so are you. God bless America.

its a nice sentiment, but not really how it works (Bernie Madoff is the first example to pop into my head). But sure, I can agree with you in general terms, but that would include the players, too, doing "whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible." No?

Definitely! The difference is that they don't own any part of the business, they are employees. What do we as employees do if we don't like our job? If they don't like theirs, they can go flip burgers and try to pay their mansions with that wage.

They have more bargaining ability than you do, what with the league being about them, which is why there's bargaining going on.

Exactly.

No One pays $16000 for seats to watch you flip burgers.

It's true. They can try to improve their wages, but they should also realize how good they have it. I, for one, have no sympathy for their cause. Do you know what higher pay for them means for us? High ticket prices, etc.

The truth is, if they don't feel like they are compensated enough for their work, they should try to find the same compensation doing something else. If they can great. If they can't stop winning because you have it WAY better than the vast majority of the world's population.

I am going to spend my time supporting the real laborers who actually do something productive for our society.

They only play a game....

Why would they try to find a different job when they get paid very well to do this one?

I hate this idea that someone should just not use any bargaining power they have at their disposal. If they can try to get more money, good for them. "They should realize how good they have it". They do. They also realize how much better they can have it, and since they're grownups and they're allowed to negotiate, that's what they do.

They also only have a short time to make this money, so they want to make the most of it.

Yes, they have it better than most of the world. That's life for people that generate a ton of money.

If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

they aren't on strike.

They can flip burgers, can't they?

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
He will always be remembered for his retarded comment.

I now question the education given by the history department at Oklahoma U.

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by aclarke49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I dont think slaves got paid millions of dollars

This is the first thing I thought of when I read it. I also like the comment where he feels players are being "ripped off". What a f**king joke! Isn't the minimum non-star player wage somewhere in the $200k/year range?

I don't give a s**t how much the owners are making. Its their business and they should be interested in being as profitable as possible. I think it would be absurd for me to go to my boss and say I need more of the companies cut because it is more profitable.

The players need a f**king reality check and need to come down to our world in its current economic s**t-hole that we are in. They will quickly realize they should be grateful for what they have.

the owners aren't being unrealistic about the economic s**thole that we're in? They seem to believe they are entitled to make a record profit every year no matter what and that when they don't they are "hurting."

This is America. They are entitled to do whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible. So am I and so are you. God bless America.

its a nice sentiment, but not really how it works (Bernie Madoff is the first example to pop into my head). But sure, I can agree with you in general terms, but that would include the players, too, doing "whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible." No?

Definitely! The difference is that they don't own any part of the business, they are employees. What do we as employees do if we don't like our job? If they don't like theirs, they can go flip burgers and try to pay their mansions with that wage.

They have more bargaining ability than you do, what with the league being about them, which is why there's bargaining going on.

Exactly.

No One pays $16000 for seats to watch you flip burgers.

It's true. They can try to improve their wages, but they should also realize how good they have it. I, for one, have no sympathy for their cause. Do you know what higher pay for them means for us? High ticket prices, etc.

The truth is, if they don't feel like they are compensated enough for their work, they should try to find the same compensation doing something else. If they can great. If they can't stop winning because you have it WAY better than the vast majority of the world's population.

I am going to spend my time supporting the real laborers who actually do something productive for our society.

They only play a game....

Why would they try to find a different job when they get paid very well to do this one?

I hate this idea that someone should just not use any bargaining power they have at their disposal. If they can try to get more money, good for them. "They should realize how good they have it". They do. They also realize how much better they can have it, and since they're grownups and they're allowed to negotiate, that's what they do.

They also only have a short time to make this money, so they want to make the most of it.

Yes, they have it better than most of the world. That's life for people that generate a ton of money.

If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

they aren't on strike.

They can flip burgers, can't they?

no, the only thing they can flip are cars and fingers.

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

That makes almost no sense.

Yes, they're paid well.

Yes, they have a right to use their ability to bargain for more money, if possible.

Yes, the owners have a right to lockout the players and use their powers to bargain.

Uh oh! I haven't picked a side and started demonizing! Oh noes!

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by aclarke49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I dont think slaves got paid millions of dollars

This is the first thing I thought of when I read it. I also like the comment where he feels players are being "ripped off". What a f**king joke! Isn't the minimum non-star player wage somewhere in the $200k/year range?

I don't give a s**t how much the owners are making. Its their business and they should be interested in being as profitable as possible. I think it would be absurd for me to go to my boss and say I need more of the companies cut because it is more profitable.

The players need a f**king reality check and need to come down to our world in its current economic s**t-hole that we are in. They will quickly realize they should be grateful for what they have.

the owners aren't being unrealistic about the economic s**thole that we're in? They seem to believe they are entitled to make a record profit every year no matter what and that when they don't they are "hurting."

This is America. They are entitled to do whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible. So am I and so are you. God bless America.

its a nice sentiment, but not really how it works (Bernie Madoff is the first example to pop into my head). But sure, I can agree with you in general terms, but that would include the players, too, doing "whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible." No?

Definitely! The difference is that they don't own any part of the business, they are employees. What do we as employees do if we don't like our job? If they don't like theirs, they can go flip burgers and try to pay their mansions with that wage.

They have more bargaining ability than you do, what with the league being about them, which is why there's bargaining going on.

Exactly.

No One pays $16000 for seats to watch you flip burgers.

It's true. They can try to improve their wages, but they should also realize how good they have it. I, for one, have no sympathy for their cause. Do you know what higher pay for them means for us? High ticket prices, etc.

The truth is, if they don't feel like they are compensated enough for their work, they should try to find the same compensation doing something else. If they can great. If they can't stop winning because you have it WAY better than the vast majority of the world's population.

I am going to spend my time supporting the real laborers who actually do something productive for our society.

They only play a game....

Why would they try to find a different job when they get paid very well to do this one?

I hate this idea that someone should just not use any bargaining power they have at their disposal. If they can try to get more money, good for them. "They should realize how good they have it". They do. They also realize how much better they can have it, and since they're grownups and they're allowed to negotiate, that's what they do.

They also only have a short time to make this money, so they want to make the most of it.

Yes, they have it better than most of the world. That's life for people that generate a ton of money.

If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

Explain how they are going to show up for work when it is the off season? The owners are the ones b***hing, the players never asked for a raise. They were happy with the last CBA.

Quote:
Teams like the 49ers with new coaches have the most to lose in a lockout. Maiocco reports the team was planning to start their offseason conditioning program next week.

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

That makes almost no sense.

Yes, they're paid well.

Yes, they have a right to use their ability to bargain for more money, if possible.

Yes, the owners have a right to lockout the players and use their powers to bargain.

Uh oh! I haven't picked a side and started demonizing! Oh noes!

But no they shouldn't be grateful for their already ridiculously-high wages and stop b***hing about wanting more money?

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by aclarke49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I dont think slaves got paid millions of dollars

This is the first thing I thought of when I read it. I also like the comment where he feels players are being "ripped off". What a f**king joke! Isn't the minimum non-star player wage somewhere in the $200k/year range?

I don't give a s**t how much the owners are making. Its their business and they should be interested in being as profitable as possible. I think it would be absurd for me to go to my boss and say I need more of the companies cut because it is more profitable.

The players need a f**king reality check and need to come down to our world in its current economic s**t-hole that we are in. They will quickly realize they should be grateful for what they have.

the owners aren't being unrealistic about the economic s**thole that we're in? They seem to believe they are entitled to make a record profit every year no matter what and that when they don't they are "hurting."

This is America. They are entitled to do whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible. So am I and so are you. God bless America.

its a nice sentiment, but not really how it works (Bernie Madoff is the first example to pop into my head). But sure, I can agree with you in general terms, but that would include the players, too, doing "whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible." No?

Definitely! The difference is that they don't own any part of the business, they are employees. What do we as employees do if we don't like our job? If they don't like theirs, they can go flip burgers and try to pay their mansions with that wage.

They have more bargaining ability than you do, what with the league being about them, which is why there's bargaining going on.

Exactly.

No One pays $16000 for seats to watch you flip burgers.

It's true. They can try to improve their wages, but they should also realize how good they have it. I, for one, have no sympathy for their cause. Do you know what higher pay for them means for us? High ticket prices, etc.

The truth is, if they don't feel like they are compensated enough for their work, they should try to find the same compensation doing something else. If they can great. If they can't stop winning because you have it WAY better than the vast majority of the world's population.

I am going to spend my time supporting the real laborers who actually do something productive for our society.

They only play a game....

Why would they try to find a different job when they get paid very well to do this one?

I hate this idea that someone should just not use any bargaining power they have at their disposal. If they can try to get more money, good for them. "They should realize how good they have it". They do. They also realize how much better they can have it, and since they're grownups and they're allowed to negotiate, that's what they do.

They also only have a short time to make this money, so they want to make the most of it.

Yes, they have it better than most of the world. That's life for people that generate a ton of money.

If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

Explain how they are going to show up for work when it is the off season? The owners are the ones b***hing, the players never asked for a raise. They were happy with the last CBA.

Quote:
Teams like the 49ers with new coaches have the most to lose in a lockout. Maiocco reports the team was planning to start their offseason conditioning program next week.

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

That makes almost no sense.

Yes, they're paid well.

Yes, they have a right to use their ability to bargain for more money, if possible.

Yes, the owners have a right to lockout the players and use their powers to bargain.

Uh oh! I haven't picked a side and started demonizing! Oh noes!

But no they shouldn't be grateful for their already ridiculously-high wages and stop b***hing about wanting more money?

Irrelevant. I'm sure they're grateful, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to use their ability to make more money. If you had a chance to get a raise, you would, but you aren't a millionaire athlete, so nobody cares. It's not immoral to try to get more money.

If there's more money being made, it either goes to the owners, or the players. Why should the players not try to get more? Because they already make a lot? So do the owners. Should they then just burn the money, because it's excessive?

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

That makes almost no sense.

Yes, they're paid well.

Yes, they have a right to use their ability to bargain for more money, if possible.

Yes, the owners have a right to lockout the players and use their powers to bargain.

Uh oh! I haven't picked a side and started demonizing! Oh noes!

But no they shouldn't be grateful for their already ridiculously-high wages and stop b***hing about wanting more money?

Irrelevant. I'm sure they're grateful, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to use their ability to make more money. If you had a chance to get a raise, you would, but you aren't a millionaire athlete, so nobody cares. It's not immoral to try to get more money.

If there's more money being made, it either goes to the owners, or the players. Why should the players not try to get more? Because they already make a lot? So do the owners. Should they then just burn the money, because it's excessive?

only athletes have to be grateful for their money. businessmen are allowed to always want more.

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

That makes almost no sense.

Yes, they're paid well.

Yes, they have a right to use their ability to bargain for more money, if possible.

Yes, the owners have a right to lockout the players and use their powers to bargain.

Uh oh! I haven't picked a side and started demonizing! Oh noes!

But no they shouldn't be grateful for their already ridiculously-high wages and stop b***hing about wanting more money?

Irrelevant. I'm sure they're grateful, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to use their ability to make more money. If you had a chance to get a raise, you would, but you aren't a millionaire athlete, so nobody cares. It's not immoral to try to get more money.

If there's more money being made, it either goes to the owners, or the players. Why should the players not try to get more? Because they already make a lot? So do the owners. Should they then just burn the money, because it's excessive?

only athletes have to be grateful for their money. businessmen are allowed to always want more.

He's making me defend a union, and it makes me feel dirty.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by aclarke49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I dont think slaves got paid millions of dollars

This is the first thing I thought of when I read it. I also like the comment where he feels players are being "ripped off". What a f**king joke! Isn't the minimum non-star player wage somewhere in the $200k/year range?

I don't give a s**t how much the owners are making. Its their business and they should be interested in being as profitable as possible. I think it would be absurd for me to go to my boss and say I need more of the companies cut because it is more profitable.

The players need a f**king reality check and need to come down to our world in its current economic s**t-hole that we are in. They will quickly realize they should be grateful for what they have.

the owners aren't being unrealistic about the economic s**thole that we're in? They seem to believe they are entitled to make a record profit every year no matter what and that when they don't they are "hurting."

This is America. They are entitled to do whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible. So am I and so are you. God bless America.

its a nice sentiment, but not really how it works (Bernie Madoff is the first example to pop into my head). But sure, I can agree with you in general terms, but that would include the players, too, doing "whatever the f**k they want to get as rich as possible." No?

Definitely! The difference is that they don't own any part of the business, they are employees. What do we as employees do if we don't like our job? If they don't like theirs, they can go flip burgers and try to pay their mansions with that wage.

They have more bargaining ability than you do, what with the league being about them, which is why there's bargaining going on.

Exactly.

No One pays $16000 for seats to watch you flip burgers.

It's true. They can try to improve their wages, but they should also realize how good they have it. I, for one, have no sympathy for their cause. Do you know what higher pay for them means for us? High ticket prices, etc.

The truth is, if they don't feel like they are compensated enough for their work, they should try to find the same compensation doing something else. If they can great. If they can't stop winning because you have it WAY better than the vast majority of the world's population.

I am going to spend my time supporting the real laborers who actually do something productive for our society.

They only play a game....

Why would they try to find a different job when they get paid very well to do this one?

I hate this idea that someone should just not use any bargaining power they have at their disposal. If they can try to get more money, good for them. "They should realize how good they have it". They do. They also realize how much better they can have it, and since they're grownups and they're allowed to negotiate, that's what they do.

They also only have a short time to make this money, so they want to make the most of it.

Yes, they have it better than most of the world. That's life for people that generate a ton of money.

If you agree that they already get paid very well, then you must agree that they need to stop their b***hing and show up to "work".

Explain how they are going to show up for work when it is the off season? The owners are the ones b***hing, the players never asked for a raise. They were happy with the last CBA.