Originally posted by blizzuntz:Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by blizzuntz:Originally posted by BobS:Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Without the owners there would be no such product. This is big business. Sorry players, but you need to accept that.
It is in this only that fans side with the Yorks.
It's fascinating to me to see this thread play out the dichotomy of labor vs. management we see in the world at large. One side believes in the divine right of kings and that people should know their place in the natural order of things while the other side believes in a democratic world where rights belong to everyone equally. The former sees the owners as the product while the latter sees the players as at least as important.
Democratic? I think you defined socialism. Also a king was born into his power and it can only be taken away by force. The original owners of the NFL built the product up with their own money and sweat. Current owners may have inherited their money or earned it themselves, irregardless that, own NFL franchises, which are a business. What I find interesting is the players getting a defined % of the revenue, and a lot of people are ok with that acting like the players are the only employees paid by the team. If the players are more important than the owners let them all quit and form their own league. Most of them aren't even of average intelligence and couldn't run a hot dog cart* if left to their own devices. The players need the owners more than the owners need them. Jerry Jones would find other business ventures to occupy his time and money and I am sure would do well. What would a guy like Chris Johnson of the Titans do with out the NFL? Jail would be my guess, I am sure he isn't smart enough to do something you could teach an 8 year old.
* No offense to anyone who owns a hot dog cart, in the right location I have heard you can make $150,000 a year. Just a reference to a business that isn't real hard to run.
The owners need TV $$$ and people watch the games for the players.
is it true the owners negotiated with networks that they will get paid $4 billion this year even if this season is canceled?
from my understanding, the owners put this $$ aside to afford a lockout. I believe that isnt allowed bc it is an unfair leverage for negotiations.
What? So it is unfair because the players can't save any money for a rainy day?