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Matt Flynn

Originally posted by susweel:
NO, that would be Tolzien.

True
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I say the same about Andrew luck.. awesome hes supposed to be the next best thing.. the next peyton manning, but College and NFL level are on a completely different level than one another... my friends have played college, 1 played for humboldt.. Division 2 but still.. and i dont see him in the NFL and he was starting tackle lol.
Tell me that this post was full of sarcasm...
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by susweel:
Dump Smith and bring in Flynn


I remember when people said the same about McNabb!

oh wait....



And Kolb. Cromartie and a first

and cassel
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
IT'S THE SYSTEM NOT THE PLAYERS!!!

I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS AND GOT FLAMED FOR IT !

SCREEN , SLANT, CHECKDOWN, SCREEN, SLANT, PLAYACTION, CHECKDOWN, SLANT, ........

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by susweel:
Dump Smith and bring in Flynn


I remember when people said the same about McNabb!

oh wait....



And Kolb. Cromartie and a first

and cassel

Also Grbac, Rob Johnson
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I say the same about Andrew luck.. awesome hes supposed to be the next best thing.. the next peyton manning, but College and NFL level are on a completely different level than one another... my friends have played college, 1 played for humboldt.. Division 2 but still.. and i dont see him in the NFL and he was starting tackle lol.
Tell me that this post was full of sarcasm...

Why would it be?? If you dont think the level of play between college level and NFL is HUGE your sadly mistaken.. and he hasnt played any snaps... Wasnt Cam newton supposed to be a bust as the #1 pick? and hes doing alright.. you just never know..
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I say the same about Andrew luck.. awesome hes supposed to be the next best thing.. the next peyton manning, but College and NFL level are on a completely different level than one another... my friends have played college, 1 played for humboldt.. Division 2 but still.. and i dont see him in the NFL and he was starting tackle lol.
Tell me that this post was full of sarcasm...

Why would it be?? If you dont think the level of play between college level and NFL is HUGE your sadly mistaken.. and he hasnt played any snaps... Wasnt Cam newton supposed to be a bust as the #1 pick? and hes doing alright.. you just never know..

this ryan leaf was a sure thing too

luck has the best o line in college football (full of 1st round picks)

he will be going to a team (most likely) without a good o line

well see

no such thing as a sure thing prospect
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Why would it be?? If you dont think the level of play between college level and NFL is HUGE your sadly mistaken.. and he hasnt played any snaps... Wasnt Cam newton supposed to be a bust as the #1 pick? and hes doing alright.. you just never know..
You compared a Div II guy to a Div 1 QB...Now you assume that Newton will stay good; could happen, will likely happen but dont forget that Derek Anderson played in Chudzinkis offense well, too but it was only for a year.
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
this ryan leaf was a sure thing too

luck has the best o line in college football (full of 1st round picks)

he will be going to a team (most likely) without a good o line

well see

no such thing as a sure thing prospect
Luck is very mobile when it's about escaping pressure. Luck produces the third year in a row in a westcoast offense, he makes a lot of nfl-type throws, he is taught to read defenses and so on.
Like I know, Ryan Leaf was a "high potential"-guy, Luck is not only potential but a lot of "can do it already like a pro".
Originally posted by NinersEverywhere:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
IT'S THE SYSTEM NOT THE PLAYERS!!!

I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS AND GOT FLAMED FOR IT !

SCREEN , SLANT, CHECKDOWN, SCREEN, SLANT, PLAYACTION, CHECKDOWN, SLANT, ........




lol now you know how they all felt about Montana
Originally posted by susweel:
Also Grbac, Rob Johnson

That's who comes to mind for me.
Goddamn

No Landry Jones means Flynn is going to BANK $$$
Originally posted by zillabeast:
Goddamn

No Landry Jones means Flynn is going to BANK $$$

If someone is willing it won't be the 49ers, I would love to sign him but a reasonable amount he's got to compete for the job!
  • mike
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Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
If someone is willing it won't be the 49ers, I would love to sign him but a reasonable amount he's got to compete for the job!

There definitely are teams more desperate than us to improve the position. But if flynn does have any say in it(i.e not tagged and waved around by GB as trade bait), we are a better choice for him as far as having a chance to make the playoffs than a miami or seattle would be. We're becoming a better destination for FAs.

I feel like if we want to ever really improve the position we have to just let alex go, grab someone like Flynn or another draft pick, and give the guys we've got a real chance to compete. Take our bumps and bruises until one of them emerges. If we can get Alex Smith to play in this smart/quick decisionmaking WCO style, why can't we do it with guys who have more talent but less experience?

Alex has done a good job managing the game, giving our team a chance to keep important drives going when he needs to("clutch" is what the coach called him, but I'd say his redzone #'s are too low to call him that), and not turning the ball over. The fear is that rookies or backups like Flynn couldn't give us the chance to win games the way Alex has. The problem is that you either get better or worse, I don't think alex is ever going to be the long term solution so at some point whoever is meant to be that solution needs to get real game time experience. You might have a dalton(13 picks) or newton(17 picks), ponder(13),ect. But most of those guys will learn to make the smart decisions and refine their games.

Flynn is still an unknown, like a draft pick or prospect would be. One great game does not make a career.(even though alex has never thrown for that many yards or that many TD's in a game). Still, I think you sign him, let him compete with Kaep(who has a year learning the system and should look a lot better than last preseason), and tolzien who looked good last preseason but never got a chance after that. You're bound to find someone better than alex in that group I bet :P
[ Edited by mike on Jan 6, 2012 at 4:05 PM ]
Matt Flynn is gonna start somewhere, dude's pretty good
  • gage
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Originally posted by mike:
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
If someone is willing it won't be the 49ers, I would love to sign him but a reasonable amount he's got to compete for the job!

There definitely are teams more desperate than us to improve the position. But if flynn does have any say in it(i.e not tagged and waved around by GB as trade bait), we are a better choice for him as far as having a chance to make the playoffs than a miami or seattle would be. We're becoming a better destination for FAs.

I feel like if we want to ever really improve the position we have to just let alex go, grab someone like Flynn or another draft pick, and give the guys we've got a real chance to compete. Take our bumps and bruises until one of them emerges. If we can get Alex Smith to play in this smart/quick decisionmaking WCO style, why can't we do it with guys who have more talent but less experience?

Alex has done a good job managing the game, giving our team a chance to keep important drives going when he needs to("clutch" is what the coach called him, but I'd say his redzone #'s are too low to call him that), and not turning the ball over. The fear is that rookies or backups like Flynn couldn't give us the chance to win games the way Alex has. The problem is that you either get better or worse, I don't think alex is ever going to be the long term solution so at some point whoever is meant to be that solution needs to get real game time experience. You might have a dalton(13 picks) or newton(17 picks), ponder(13),ect. But most of those guys will learn to make the smart decisions and refine their games.

Flynn is still an unknown, like a draft pick or prospect would be. One great game does not make a career.(even though alex has never thrown for that many yards or that many TD's in a game). Still, I think you sign him, let him compete with Kaep(who has a year learning the system and should look a lot better than last preseason), and tolzien who looked good last preseason but never got a chance after that. You're bound to find someone better than alex in that group I bet :P

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