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NO GRUDEN PLEASE!!!!!!

I personally dont want Gruden...... Only one good year in Tampa, did any of you you check his track record after that.... Almost the same flip-flop QB senario we have now... All that TV tough talk got you guys going! Gruden may be better than Sing but he's still a JOKEA TV personality that some of you are enamoured with, like Madden...... LIke I said Years ago, we need some one new, fresh not the same ole recycled NFL bulls**t... Look at TB, PITT, NO, KC, JETS, MIA even STL New young coaches new ideas, new energy. Also look at teams who hired old coaches Wash, Dall,SD.... Of coarse you have BUFF, and Den that failed but hiring one of those guys is moving backwards.... Wont bring anything to the league that havent been done to death...Maybe some stability to the team but if thats all you want you are thinking short term....

Just my opinion
First of all, there's a potential coaching thread in nfl talk this could have gone in . Second, gruden built that raiders team from the ground up. He is the only coach that should make the raiders look respectable in the last 25 years.
Look at what he had to work with in Tampa. An aging D and subpar offensive talent all across the board. That's not a recipe for success.

And yet he managed a Superbowl, an 11-5 season and two 9-7 seasons in 7 years.

Regardless of our W-L record I think we have a good infrastructure with young players on both sides of the ball and a well-managed cap to be able to bring in pieces and replace players as needed instead of having to worry about a whole defense aging on you over night.


And let's not forget what he did in Oakland.
Originally posted by silkyjohnson:
Look at what he had to work with in Tampa. An aging D and subpar offensive talent all across the board. That's not a recipe for success.

And yet he managed a Superbowl, an 11-5 season and two 9-7 seasons in 7 years.

Regardless of our W-L record I think we have a good infrastructure with young players on both sides of the ball and a well-managed cap to be able to bring in pieces and replace players as needed instead of having to worry about a whole defense aging on you over night.


And let's not forget what he did in Oakland.

When he did WIN in TB that D was # 1 dont act like they were falling apart when he got there and how many HOF's was on that oakland team that made it to the afc tuck rule game?
[ Edited by D-NOTTE on Dec 7, 2010 at 6:44 AM ]
Niners just hired 2 new young coaches in a row.
Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Originally posted by silkyjohnson:
Look at what he had to work with in Tampa. An aging D and subpar offensive talent all across the board. That's not a recipe for success.

And yet he managed a Superbowl, an 11-5 season and two 9-7 seasons in 7 years.

Regardless of our W-L record I think we have a good infrastructure with young players on both sides of the ball and a well-managed cap to be able to bring in pieces and replace players as needed instead of having to worry about a whole defense aging on you over night.


And let's not forget what he did in Oakland.

When he did WIN in TB that D was # 1 dont act like they were falling apart when he got there

Of course not, but that did not last long. Not to mention they were cash-strapped and couldn't keep it together anyway.

But Gruden's forte is the offense, and with guys like McCardell, Pittman, Clayton and Galloway leading the way, well... yeah.

But like I said, the Niners got a good core of young offensive talent and Nolan left this team well off financially.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Niners just hired 2 new young coaches in a row.

Defensive old heads.... Really what did we expect.... This is a passing league now... WE hear it every week... Then to compound it we draft AS to manage
gruden has the personality and social skills to be a great motivator and football coach.

Singletary has neither of those things. He's devoid of any personality, and his verbal skills are awkward and forced.

Great personality type for a hard-hitting defensive legend. Poor demeanor for the coach of a team in the process of getting back to it's former glory.
Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
I personally dont want Gruden...... Only one good year in Tampa, did any of you you check his track record after that.... Almost the same flip-flop QB senario we have now... All that TV tough talk got you guys going! Gruden may be better than Sing but he's still a JOKEA TV personality that some of you are enamoured with, like Madden...... LIke I said Years ago, we need some one new, fresh not the same ole recycled NFL bulls**t... Look at TB, PITT, NO, KC, JETS, MIA even STL New young coaches new ideas, new energy. Also look at teams who hired old coaches Wash, Dall,SD.... Of coarse you have BUFF, and Den that failed but hiring one of those guys is moving backwards.... Wont bring anything to the league that havent been done to death...Maybe some stability to the team but if thats all you want you are thinking short term....

Just my opinion

Did you check his record in Philly as OC with what he was working with or Oakland ? In Tampa his biggest mistake was not pushing for or drafting a franchise QB. Wherever he lands if there is no franchise QB I'd bet he'd be looking to nab one and not make that mistake twice.
Gruden's OAKLAND team was truly his team with Gannon at QB. Now the Tampa team? That belonged to Tony Dungy.
Gruden's an offensive-minded head coach...he "gets" QB's, which in itself would be reason enough to hire him. He's also had success, both in Oakland and Tampa Bay...he's got the kind of positive experience our sidelines hasn't seen since Mariucci was fired. He's also hungry, having been out of coaching for awhile, but is still young enough to breathe some life into our moribund (word-of-the-day) team. He's an effective communicator, another thing we haven't had on our sidelines since Mariucci. You're so against him...which is your perogative, but who would you hire instead, and why?
Originally posted by mo_hawk:
gruden has the personality and social skills to be a great motivator and football coach.

Singletary has neither of those things. He's devoid of any personality, and his verbal skills are awkward and forced.

Great personality type for a hard-hitting defensive legend. Poor demeanor for the coach of a team in the process of getting back to it's former glory.

Motivational speaking is suppose to be Sing's nitche, but thats comparing Gruden to Sing. Which is a low bar right now. Like I said he may be a better coach than Sing maybe, Check his last few years in TB, but for our next coach, I'm not sold.
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Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
I personally dont want Gruden...... Only one good year in Tampa, did any of you you check his track record after that.... Almost the same flip-flop QB senario we have now... All that TV tough talk got you guys going! Gruden may be better than Sing but he's still a JOKEA TV personality that some of you are enamoured with, like Madden...... LIke I said Years ago, we need some one new, fresh not the same ole recycled NFL bulls**t... Look at TB, PITT, NO, KC, JETS, MIA even STL New young coaches new ideas, new energy. Also look at teams who hired old coaches Wash, Dall,SD.... Of coarse you have BUFF, and Den that failed but hiring one of those guys is moving backwards.... Wont bring anything to the league that havent been done to death...Maybe some stability to the team but if thats all you want you are thinking short term....

Just my opinion

Did you check his record in Philly as OC with what he was working with or Oakland ? In Tampa his biggest mistake was not pushing for or drafting a franchise QB. Wherever he lands if there is no franchise QB I'd bet he'd be looking to nab one and not make that mistake twice.

WOW you want to go break down to OC stats now to find more positives, ok we can but I could find several OC's with better stats.... Just to let you open that can of worms
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Gruden's an offensive-minded head coach...he "gets" QB's, which in itself would be reason enough to hire him. He's also had success, both in Oakland and Tampa Bay...he's got the kind of positive experience our sidelines hasn't seen since Mariucci was fired. He's also hungry, having been out of coaching for awhile, but is still young enough to breathe some life into our moribund (word-of-the-day) team. He's an effective communicator, another thing we haven't had on our sidelines since Mariucci. You're so against him...which is your perogative, but who would you hire instead, and why?

You could have stop after the bold or insert " I THINK" before the rest
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Gruden's an offensive-minded head coach...he "gets" QB's, which in itself would be reason enough to hire him. He's also had success, both in Oakland and Tampa Bay...he's got the kind of positive experience our sidelines hasn't seen since Mariucci was fired. He's also hungry, having been out of coaching for awhile, but is still young enough to breathe some life into our moribund (word-of-the-day) team. He's an effective communicator, another thing we haven't had on our sidelines since Mariucci. You're so against him...which is your perogative, but who would you hire instead, and why?

What QB has Gruden ever developed to say that he "gets" QBs. Or does that mean he acquires them, which would be more apt.
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