Steelers open to idea of trading Roethlisberger

Originally posted by Leathaface:
That latest story about the incident sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Let's see...

1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

In other words nothing. How is it bad?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
That latest story about the incident sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Let's see...

1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

In other words nothing. How is it bad?

read the article for yourself

Originally posted by Negrodamus:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
That latest story about the incident sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Let's see...

1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

In other words nothing. How is it bad?

read the article for yourself

I read it. It sounds like his organization is mad at him but he has done nothing wrong.

Originally posted by danimal:
My point is. That out of all the generally recognized 2nd tier QB's in the NFL, I like Roeth the least.

Big Ben can dance around and dodge defenders for ages, he'd be perfect for our o-line

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Negrodamus:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
That latest story about the incident sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Let's see...

1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

In other words nothing. How is it bad?

read the article for yourself

I read it. It sounds like his organization is mad at him but he has done nothing wrong.

bro he took advantage of a young lady while she was telling him she did not think it was a good idea for him to do that to her and then proceeded to tell him NO. regardless if the Legal System found him guilty or not and we all know that if you've got money one can buy the system and walk a free person. keep in mind this is not the 1st time this shiite has happened to him and in the same exact manner. did not know that lightening strikes twice.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
That latest story about the incident sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Let's see...

1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

In other words nothing. How is it bad?

You can play dumb if you want but you and I both know that police report sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Do you think this girl went out looking for him? She most likely went out that night not even knowing Ben would be at the same party. She's 20 years old...do you think she just decided on the spot, hey here's my chance to cash in! That's a much bigger stretch of the imagination. If you listen to the police, they continually refer to her as "the victim." They know something went down, they just don't have the evidence to prove the case legally.

Originally posted by Negrodamus:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Negrodamus:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
That latest story about the incident sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Let's see...

1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

In other words nothing. How is it bad?

read the article for yourself

I read it. It sounds like his organization is mad at him but he has done nothing wrong.

bro he took advantage of a young lady while she was telling him she did not think it was a good idea for him to do that to her and then proceeded to tell him NO. regardless if the Legal System found him guilty or not and we all know that if you've got money one can buy the system and walk a free person. keep in mind this is not the 1st time this shiite has happened to him and in the same exact manner. did not know that lightening strikes twice.

Again he did nothing wrong. Lets review for those who don't read the news.

Nevada: 1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

Georgia: 1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

2 gold diggers doesn't make something wrong. Anybody can fling sh** against a wall and see if it will stick (accusations).

And the prosecutors / police would abolutely love nothing more than convicting a high profile person. Far from being let out of something because he is rich he is actually held to a higher standard than most. A conviction of somebody like Ben will make careers, obtain promotions and change the direction of futures. Far from wanting to let him off they want in an overzealous way to convict him.

for SanDiego read the following from PFT. it's more graphic than that reported by NFL.com and ESPN. I guess the latter two were keeping it clean for their readers. but read the following

"Ben asked us to go to his 'VIP' area. . . . We all went with him. He said there were shots for us, numerous shots were on the bar, and he told us to take them. His bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me, he escorted me into a side door/hallway, and sat me on a stool. He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants. I told him it wasn't OK, no, we don't need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave. I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom. He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him. I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me. He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything. I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends. We left [the club] and went to the first police car we saw."

As it turns out, the alleged victim gave two handwritten statements. The statement given after the passage of time is neat and legible. The earlier one is hard to read, since it was written while the alleged victim was still intoxicated. Here's part of what it said:

"His bodyguards took him back to the rooms w/bathroom and I said, 'I don't know if this is a good idea' and he said 'it's OK.' He has sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told me friends they couldn't pass them to get to me. My friends found me & talked to a Milledgeville policeman and he said to report it."

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
That latest story about the incident sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Let's see...

1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

In other words nothing. How is it bad?

You can play dumb if you want but you and I both know that police report sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Do you think this girl went out looking for him? She most likely went out that night not even knowing Ben would be at the same party. She's 20 years old...do you think she just decided on the spot, hey here's my chance to cash in! That's a much bigger stretch of the imagination. If you listen to the police, they continually refer to her as "the victim." They know something went down, they just don't have the evidence to prove the case legally.

The reports that I've seen were her friends were out with Ben in some other bars. So yeah they knew it was Big Ben. And yeah anybody who reads the news knew of an accusation in Nevada. So yeah she could have decided to CASH IN...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

The police call her "victim" because that is what is they are trained to do. You could just as easily call her "accuser" or "gold digger."

oh by the way SanDiego do think OJ killed his ex wife Nicloe Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. remember OJ was not found guilty of murder in the legal system.

Originally posted by Negrodamus:
for SanDiego read the following from PFT. it's more graphic than that reported by NFL.com and ESPN. I guess the latter two were keeping it clean for their readers. but read the following

"Ben asked us to go to his 'VIP' area. . . . We all went with him. He said there were shots for us, numerous shots were on the bar, and he told us to take them. His bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me, he escorted me into a side door/hallway, and sat me on a stool. He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants. I told him it wasn't OK, no, we don't need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave. I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom. He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him. I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me. He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything. I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends. We left [the club] and went to the first police car we saw."

As it turns out, the alleged victim gave two handwritten statements. The statement given after the passage of time is neat and legible. The earlier one is hard to read, since it was written while the alleged victim was still intoxicated. Here's part of what it said:

"His bodyguards took him back to the rooms w/bathroom and I said, 'I don't know if this is a good idea' and he said 'it's OK.' He has sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told me friends they couldn't pass them to get to me. My friends found me & talked to a Milledgeville policeman and he said to report it."

Ben is a NASTY Muhfcuka

Originally posted by Negrodamus:
for SanDiego read the following from PFT. it's more graphic than that reported by NFL.com and ESPN. I guess the latter two were keeping it clean for their readers. but read the following

"Ben asked us to go to his 'VIP' area. . . . We all went with him. He said there were shots for us, numerous shots were on the bar, and he told us to take them. His bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me, he escorted me into a side door/hallway, and sat me on a stool. He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants. I told him it wasn't OK, no, we don't need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave. I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom. He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him. I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me. He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything. I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends. We left [the club] and went to the first police car we saw."

As it turns out, the alleged victim gave two handwritten statements. The statement given after the passage of time is neat and legible. The earlier one is hard to read, since it was written while the alleged victim was still intoxicated. Here's part of what it said:

"His bodyguards took him back to the rooms w/bathroom and I said, 'I don't know if this is a good idea' and he said 'it's OK.' He has sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told me friends they couldn't pass them to get to me. My friends found me & talked to a Milledgeville policeman and he said to report it."

All her supposed statements which mean nothing. What you are not saying is that police and prosecutors investigated and found her statements to be conflicting. She made multiple different conflicting statements over time damaging the credibility of her story.

But you didn't tell that side of it.

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
That latest story about the incident sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Let's see...

1) No arrest made.
2) No charges filed.
3) No conviction obtained.

In other words nothing. How is it bad?

You can play dumb if you want but you and I both know that police report sounds pretty bad for Ben.

Do you think this girl went out looking for him? She most likely went out that night not even knowing Ben would be at the same party. She's 20 years old...do you think she just decided on the spot, hey here's my chance to cash in! That's a much bigger stretch of the imagination. If you listen to the police, they continually refer to her as "the victim." They know something went down, they just don't have the evidence to prove the case legally.

well said LF

Originally posted by Negrodamus:
oh by the way SanDiego do think OJ killed his ex wife Nicloe Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. remember OJ was not found guilty of murder in the legal system.

OJ definitely killed those 2 people. The difference is...

1) He was arrested.
2) Charges were filed.
3) He was tried in a court of law.

The jury just used JURY NULIFICATION because they were upset with the treatment of African Americans by the LAPD.

Some people are so f**king stupid.