Biggest team flaws

Originally posted by LundyLove:
Biggest flaw is what it's always been.

the offensive line sucks.

Fix it and all the sudden Purdy has more time and we run the ball better.

He had time to throw. Even under duress. They put that stats up during the game he was holding the ball for over 4 seconds a play.

The issue was nobody was getting open.

There's a couple reasons for this...

#1 is talent. Pearsall is the only wr who might be better than a wr3 on any other team and he was injured...

#2 coaching. The team doesn't practice letting the plays play out after they breakdown so the wrs don't know what to do when a play breaks down and even the offensive line quites blocking after a while while purdy still keeping the play alive.

#3 we don't run enough screens and reverses to actually punish the pass rushers and keep them from pinning their ears back.

The running game sucked because mcaffrey is done as a runner and robinson is a backup caliber back.

Mcaffrey actually looked pretty good vs the Seahawks and had some bigger runs than he had all season. Granted he also got stopped for minimal gains also on some runs he should have had more. That's just age showing

James came in and ripped off an easy 7 up the middle on his carry.

The blocking for the offensive line was atrocious to start the year but was pretty good on the back half.

The other issue is the defense sucks. Because you have holes everywhere. Obviously no warner and bethune and winters look just average at lb. We have no real beasts at tackle which hurts. Hopefully cj west takes a step forward.

They really need a big boy they can put in the middle who just won't get moved no matter what on the run. A big nose.

Also Saleh is pretty overrated. He's good but he's not some wizard. You never seeing him drastically changing up the scheme and like adding an extra lineman or doing anything crazy when stuffs not working. He doesn't sell out blitz either and try that. Hes a slow death bend but don't break kind of guy. That doesn't work when the teams down to get back into games... You have to sell out and hope for turn overs or 3 and outs..

So overall the rams and Seattle are just better and more talented. The eagles are more talented also but they didn't know how to keep their foot on the gas.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by LundyLove:
Biggest flaw is what it's always been.

the offensive line sucks.

Fix it and all the sudden Purdy has more time and we run the ball better.

He had time to throw. Even under duress. They put that stats up during the game he was holding the ball for over 4 seconds a play.

The issue was nobody was getting open.

There's a couple reasons for this...

#1 is talent. Pearsall is the only wr who might be better than a wr3 on any other team and he was injured...

#2 coaching. The team doesn't practice letting the plays play out after they breakdown so the wrs don't know what to do when a play breaks down and even the offensive line quites blocking after a while while purdy still keeping the play alive.

#3 we don't run enough screens and reverses to actually punish the pass rushers and keep them from pinning their ears back.

The running game sucked because mcaffrey is done as a runner and robinson is a backup caliber back.

Mcaffrey actually looked pretty good vs the Seahawks and had some bigger runs than he had all season. Granted he also got stopped for minimal gains also on some runs he should have had more. That's just age showing

James came in and ripped off an easy 7 up the middle on his carry.

The blocking for the offensive line was atrocious to start the year but was pretty good on the back half.

The other issue is the defense sucks. Because you have holes everywhere. Obviously no warner and bethune and winters look just average at lb. We have no real beasts at tackle which hurts. Hopefully cj west takes a step forward.

They really need a big boy they can put in the middle who just won't get moved no matter what on the run. A big nose.

Also Saleh is pretty overrated. He's good but he's not some wizard. You never seeing him drastically changing up the scheme and like adding an extra lineman or doing anything crazy when stuffs not working. He doesn't sell out blitz either and try that. Hes a slow death bend but don't break kind of guy. That doesn't work when the teams down to get back into games... You have to sell out and hope for turn overs or 3 and outs..

So overall the rams and Seattle are just better and more talented. The eagles are more talented also but they didn't know how to keep their foot on the gas.

McCaffrey has clearly lost a step or 2 but the OL is a bigger factor as far as the running games goes,Brendel and who ever they trotted out at LG are useless.

They b***h and cry a lot. The players crying about the loss and blaming injuries is an embarrassment. Kittle was not saving that offense. That's twice Seattle embarrassed the 49ers offense. It seems like good defenses easily shut this offense and Purdy down.

What the game against Seattle reinforced was the wide and potentially growing gap in talent. MacDonald wasn't doing anything fancy, he didn't have to. The biggest issue is that the 49ers haven't drafted any cornerstone talents since 2020 and are living off of an aging group of players who appear to be reaching their best before date. For context:

2023 Draft:
SF --> Brown (he's going to get cut)
SEA --> Witherspoon, Smith-Njigba, Charbonnet

2024 Draft
SF -->Pearsall (injured), Green (benched), Mustapha (meh, maybe league average safety)
SEA -->Murphy, Knight

2025 Draft
SF --> Williams (star potential, but injured), Collins (rotational guy), West (rotational guy), Stout (has potential)
SEA -->Zabel, Emmanwori

The 2025 draft is decidedly meh, though there is some potential there. A far cry from the production of Zabel and Emmanwori. This team isn't drafting any replacements, and it shows on the field.

The 49ers are getting beat in the player scouting and development areas, and that's on Jon Lynch.

Purdy was running around to get that 4 seconds. Running for his life. He ran 400+ yards they say if you tracked all his movements. He was creating that time. Not the offensive line doing great. Robert Saleh is not overrated. He's great. The best we had in years. 2 times.

Originally posted by bzborow1:
What the game against Seattle reinforced was the wide and potentially growing gap in talent. MacDonald wasn't doing anything fancy, he didn't have to. The biggest issue is that the 49ers haven't drafted any cornerstone talents since 2020 and are living off of an aging group of players who appear to be reaching their best before date. For context:

2023 Draft:
SF --> Brown
SEA --> Witherspoon, Smith-Njigba, Charbonnet

2024 Draft
SF -->Pearsall (injured), Green (benched), Mustapha (meh)
SEA -->Murphy, Knight

2025 Draft
SF --> Williams (maybe), Collins (rotational guy), West (rotational guy), Stout
SEA -->Zabel, Emmanwori

The 2025 draft is decidedly meh, though there is some potential there. A far cry from the production of Zabel and Emmanwori. This team isn't drafting any replacements, and it shows on the field.

The 49ers are getting beat in the player scouting and development areas, and that's on Jon Lynch.

The Rams and Seattle have leaped SF and it isn't close A healthy team isn't even close to them. The talent differential is massive. SF needs to stop draft blue collar smart players and just go after athleticism and talent and coach them up. Tired of slow ass "smart players"

Originally posted by bzborow1:
What the game against Seattle reinforced was the wide and potentially growing gap in talent. MacDonald wasn't doing anything fancy, he didn't have to. The biggest issue is that the 49ers haven't drafted any cornerstone talents since 2020 and are living off of an aging group of players who appear to be reaching their best before date. For context:

2023 Draft:
SF --> Brown (he's going to get cut)
SEA --> Witherspoon, Smith-Njigba, Charbonnet

2024 Draft
SF -->Pearsall (injured), Green (benched), Mustapha (meh, maybe league average safety)
SEA -->Murphy, Knight

2025 Draft
SF --> Williams (maybe), Collins (rotational guy), West (rotational guy), Stout (has potential)
SEA -->Zabel, Emmanwori

The 2025 draft is decidedly meh, though there is some potential there. A far cry from the production of Zabel and Emmanwori. This team isn't drafting any replacements, and it shows on the field.

The 49ers are getting beat in the player scouting and development areas, and that's on Jon Lynch.

2023 and 2024 are pretty bad. 2025 I think Collins and West are starters going forward and even good ones. Book is out on Mykel Williams. I generally like him. He's an absolute bull setting the edge with power and length. But #11 overall is pretty high for him. You want a pass rusher there. Not a set the edge DE. Who now got hurt with a knee injury. I think he was over drafted. But he's amazing at some things. The power and length and set the edge are amazing. Just not sure it's worth #11 overall.

Originally posted by bzborow1:
What the game against Seattle reinforced was the wide and potentially growing gap in talent. MacDonald wasn't doing anything fancy, he didn't have to. The biggest issue is that the 49ers haven't drafted any cornerstone talents since 2020 and are living off of an aging group of players who appear to be reaching their best before date. For context:

2023 Draft:
SF --> Brown (he's going to get cut)
SEA --> Witherspoon, Smith-Njigba, Charbonnet

2024 Draft
SF -->Pearsall (injured), Green (benched), Mustapha (meh, maybe league average safety)
SEA -->Murphy, Knight

2025 Draft
SF --> Williams (star potential, but injured), Collins (rotational guy), West (rotational guy), Stout (has potential)
SEA -->Zabel, Emmanwori

The 2025 draft is decidedly meh, though there is some potential there. A far cry from the production of Zabel and Emmanwori. This team isn't drafting any replacements, and it shows on the field.

The 49ers are getting beat in the player scouting and development areas, and that's on Jon Lynch.

I honestly don't think they have worse scouting. I think it's some combination of the lynch shanahan combo that keeps screwing up the early picks rds 1-4. All of our good players have come from the later rounds.

Lynch and shanahan keep falling in love with their draft darlings. Once you get them out of the room after the first few rounds we draft so much better...

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy was running around to get that 4 seconds. Running for his life. He ran 400+ yards they say if you tracked all his movements. He was creating that time. Not the offensive line doing great. Robert Saleh is not overrated. He's great. The best we had in years. 2 times.

Agreed but if you say the oline sucks then basically you concede the entire team outside of purdy sucks....

It's a testament to how good purdy is that I think he could make the oline work with receivers who can get open and know what to do when the play breaks down...

Saleh is overrated. He's good but MacDonald and spagnuolo are a tier above.

That bum Saleh took two interviews on a short playoff week and then let darnold drop 41 on him. Like I said. He makes good halftime adjustments but he's not doing any kind of crazy player negation or scheme changes. The best in 3 years isn't saying much considering his predecessors.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by bzborow1:
What the game against Seattle reinforced was the wide and potentially growing gap in talent. MacDonald wasn't doing anything fancy, he didn't have to. The biggest issue is that the 49ers haven't drafted any cornerstone talents since 2020 and are living off of an aging group of players who appear to be reaching their best before date. For context:

2023 Draft:
SF --> Brown (he's going to get cut)
SEA --> Witherspoon, Smith-Njigba, Charbonnet

2024 Draft
SF -->Pearsall (injured), Green (benched), Mustapha (meh, maybe league average safety)
SEA -->Murphy, Knight

2025 Draft
SF --> Williams (maybe), Collins (rotational guy), West (rotational guy), Stout (has potential)
SEA -->Zabel, Emmanwori

The 2025 draft is decidedly meh, though there is some potential there. A far cry from the production of Zabel and Emmanwori. This team isn't drafting any replacements, and it shows on the field.

The 49ers are getting beat in the player scouting and development areas, and that's on Jon Lynch.

2023 and 2024 are pretty bad. 2025 I think Collins and West are starters going forward and even good ones. Book is out on Mykel Williams. I generally like him. He's an absolute bull setting the edge with power and length. But #11 overall is pretty high for him. You want a pass rusher there. Not a set the edge DE. Who now got hurt with a knee injury. I think he was over drafted. But he's amazing at some things. The power and length and set the edge are amazing. Just not sure it's worth #11 overall.

I think the 2025 draft is looking alright considering their previous ones. Mykel Williams flashed star potential because he puts up a wall against the run and as we saw Saturday that was really missed. Collins flashed in moments but he doesn't generate a ton of pressure and has a poor run blocking grade. CJ West actually showed some towards the end of the season. Stout looks interesting. Sigle I think is done the moment they upgrade, probably this offseason.

The problem I have with Williams is he was a guy who'd already had injury issues for two years running in college and tore his ACL in his rookie year. Can he stay on the field? Can he develop as a pass rusher? Two giant if's for a pick at 11.

Personally, I think it's time to rip the band-aid off and start focusing on building a future group to grow with Brock. CMC is great but if he wants the world on his contract this offseason maybe let him walk.

I said it before and Ill say it again. One of the teams biggest flaws is Kyle's system. It's too difficult as it relies on precise execution and timing. Any time one of the starters goes down, everything is disrupted and all that goes out the window.

Also probably the reason Kyle refuses to play rookies. Which is why we were stuck with 4.8 40 WR trying to win man matchups.

Originally posted by Stanley:
I said it before and Ill say it again. One of the teams biggest flaws is Kyle's system. It's too difficult as it relies on precise execution and timing. Any time one of the starters goes down, everything is disrupted and all that goes out the window.

Also probably the reason Kyle refuses to play rookies. Which is why we were stuck with 4.8 40 WR trying to win man matchups.

I don't even think it's necessarily the system. He has good plays.

The issue is he won't play any players that don't Know the entire playbook.

Honest opinion is it really that hard to get an iPad and have your plays organized by whose on the field and have shanahan pick from the personnel assigned plays instead of just the entire book?

I mean if he's some sort of offensive genius can't he be the one to adjust to the players instead of not playing any rookies and leaving talent on the sidelines because they don't know all of his complicated plays?

Your telling me watkins couldn't memorize 5 deep routes to stretch the defense and shanahan can't just get a few of those plays in every game when he's on the field???

Dan Patrick is down on this 49ers team, he said with the Rams and Seahawks being where they are at with personnel it does not expect the 49ers back to the playoffs anytime soon.

Originally posted by bud49:
Dan Patrick is down on this 49ers team, he said with the Rams and Seahawks being where they are at with personnel it does not expect the 49ers back to the playoffs anytime soon.

oh, no, not Dan Patrick…

Who gives a f**k what Dan Patrick's boomer ass has to say.

Originally posted by bud49:
Dan Patrick is down on this 49ers team, he said with the Rams and Seahawks being where they are at with personnel it does not expect the 49ers back to the playoffs anytime soon.

We have a 3rd place schedule and in theory shouldn't be as injured next year and have more money available this year to get more than a bum of a blocking TE in free agency.