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Originally posted by Since07:
Yeah that might be a stretch… two preseason games in and we are saying two UDFA have more "potential" than Collins and a 31yr old journeyman is better than a top 10 pick?

Is it though?
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Can someone breakdown Collins? Didn't seem to get much push and got walled off on a run play, but I'm by no means an expert

You should hit up Genus49 he has the all22 he tends to make excuses rather than critique though
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by Since07:
Yeah that might be a stretch… two preseason games in and we are saying two UDFA have more "potential" than Collins and a 31yr old journeyman is better than a top 10 pick?

Is it though?

It's dumb to call a journeyman better than a first rounder who got hurt. But it wouldn't be your first dumb take.
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by Since07:
Yeah that might be a stretch… two preseason games in and we are saying two UDFA have more "potential" than Collins and a 31yr old journeyman is better than a top 10 pick?

Is it though?

Very much so, Mykel has only played half a season and is a DT/DE Ogbo has played OLB most of his career even outside of the experience gap it's a bit of an odd comparison. You can say Thompson and Eason have looked better but it's 2 preseason games. We've seen countless players look good in preseason then look terrible in real games
Originally posted by Since07:
Very much so, Mykel has only played half a season and is a DT/DE Ogbo has played OLB most of his career even outside of the experience gap it's a bit of an odd comparison. You can say Thompson and Eason have looked better but it's 2 preseason games. We've seen countless players look good in preseason then look terrible in real games
Remember when Trey Lance threw a deep TD pass to Danny Gray down the sideline in a preseason game and everyone was as happy as a clam ?
Pepperidge farm remembers. Danny Gray proceeded to have one reception for his entire NFL career and Trey, well we know how that story went.
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
We have some tough decisions to make.

James Thompson and Bryson Eason are both better and have more potential than Alfred Collins and Ogbo Okoronkwo is better than Mykel Williams.

I don't quite get it how this front office keeps whiffing on DLine prospects with premium picks and then they hit on late round / undrafted guys

Yeah that might be a stretch… two preseason games in and we are saying two UDFA have more "potential" than Collins and a 31yr old journeyman is better than a top 10 pick?

One could make the case Thompson is better than Collins right now. Dude wasn't very good last year either with the exception of what 2 games? Collins just looks very meh out there.
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by Since07:
Yeah that might be a stretch… two preseason games in and we are saying two UDFA have more "potential" than Collins and a 31yr old journeyman is better than a top 10 pick?

Is it though?

It's dumb to call a journeyman better than a first rounder who got hurt. But it wouldn't be your first dumb take.

So your whole reasoning why Mykel is better is because he was a 1st round pick. Gotcha.

And you say I have dumb takes
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
So your whole reasoning why Mykel is better is because he was a 1st round pick. Gotcha.

And you say I have dumb takes

I think it's the way you worded it "tough decisions" and then naming our top two picks from last years class. We haven't seen enough from Mykel to make that judgement. He was solid in the run game from inside which we need since Collins doesn't seem to be there yet. I'm not really a Collins fan myself but we knew he was a project with big potential.
Collins is tough to evaluate. Maybe Robert Salleh was just being nice saying he was making strides and gonna be good. He'll flash a couple of good plays and then look over-powered on others - which looks extra bad because he is so big! lol
Originally posted by HearstFan:
Collins is tough to evaluate. Maybe Robert Salleh was just being nice saying he was making strides and gonna be good. He'll flash a couple of good plays and then look over-powered on others - which looks extra bad because he is so big! lol

Kinlaw got blown off the ball too despite being so strong and 320 lbs. – at the end of the day, everyone is strong enough, but unless you're all world better than everyone else (and sometimes not even that), the technician will whoop up on you.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Alfred Collins getting traded at the end of preseason. Maybe Collins for Jesse Bates from ATL.

DT: Oso/Halton/Valdez
NT: West/Thompson
with Anderson and Eason on the PS

FS: Bates/Brown
SS: Mustapha/Sigle
with Davis on the PS
Originally posted by GEEK:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Alfred Collins getting traded at the end of preseason. Maybe Collins for Jesse Bates from ATL.

DT: Oso/Halton/Valdez
NT: West/Thompson
with Anderson and Eason on the PS

FS: Bates/Brown
SS: Mustapha/Sigle
with Davis on the PS

If the Falcons would take Collins straight up for Bates I would be ecstatic with that trade.

mfers need to WIRE THE FUDGE IN!
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

mfers need to WIRE THE FUDGE IN!

Da f**k does that mean? I thought everyone is using wireless nowadays?
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

mfers need to WIRE THE FUDGE IN!

Romello Height's stance has improved in such a short period of time. He is ready.
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