Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
LMAO

Yeah Brock losing Deebo in the middle of a game that was already a blowout is the same thing as:

-No Kittle
-Jeff Wilson Jr. instead of Christian Mccaffrey
-60% of the OL playing for the first time
-playing in the rain on the road
-week 1

Yeah, totally even.

notice the no Kittle, no CMC comments..
plus our OL is playing for the first time.. with HOF Trent btw
and again the infamous weather..

ppl can decide for themselves if this is anything worth discussing many months later or if it's just excuses for why we lost to a 3-14 team that earned pick #1
if JF can win with Pettis, EQ ST Brown, TL can win with Deebo, Trent, BA and put it in the endzone.. but he's got to improve

Dude. Your reading comprehension is painfully bad, or you are being intentionally obtuse.

That list is not a list of reasons/excuses why the 49ers lost. It is not a list of reasons why Trey didnt have a good game. It is literally just a factual list of differences between week 1 and the games Purdy played in. Period.

Stop changing the conversation or turning this into something it isnt.

You make it sound like Shanahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, Trent freaking Williams, Juice are all a group of chumps..

are they as good as the same with CMC / Kittle.. obviously no, that doesn't even need said, if that's your point..

you can't explain away the dif of how TL looked and how Brock looked through supporting cast.. that ignores how robotic TL was looking and how smooth BP was looking, that's not 100% on CMC, recall Baker played with CMC and got fired for example.

I know you saw my post talking about Trent freaking Williams play in week 1 earlier.

I know you skipped it because it's hard to ignore a simple fact that he didn't play well that game. Whole OL played like crap.

You keep laughing and pointing to Justin Fields and the Bears playing in the same conditions...on their home field. Weather like that is a talent eliminator and clearly if you watch the game the 49ers were struggling with their footing much more than the Bears.

Explain to me how a 5th round rookie for the Bears has a monster game against all of our talent and Trent freaking Williams and then disappears the rest of the season, much like the Bears did.

Almost like that week 1 game was a complete aberration.

Nope...just Trey Lance stinking it up apparently.

Everyone already knew Trey would have to come in this offseason and take the job by force if Purdy is healthy. Nothing has changed. Keep grinding.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
LMAO

Yeah Brock losing Deebo in the middle of a game that was already a blowout is the same thing as:

-No Kittle
-Jeff Wilson Jr. instead of Christian Mccaffrey
-60% of the OL playing for the first time
-playing in the rain on the road
-week 1

Yeah, totally even.

notice the no Kittle, no CMC comments..
plus our OL is playing for the first time.. with HOF Trent btw
and again the infamous weather..

ppl can decide for themselves if this is anything worth discussing many months later or if it's just excuses for why we lost to a 3-14 team that earned pick #1
if JF can win with Pettis, EQ ST Brown, TL can win with Deebo, Trent, BA and put it in the endzone.. but he's got to improve

Dude. Your reading comprehension is painfully bad, or you are being intentionally obtuse.

That list is not a list of reasons/excuses why the 49ers lost. It is not a list of reasons why Trey didnt have a good game. It is literally just a factual list of differences between week 1 and the games Purdy played in. Period.

Stop changing the conversation or turning this into something it isnt.

You make it sound like Shanahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, Trent freaking Williams, Juice are all a group of chumps..

are they as good as the same with CMC / Kittle.. obviously no, that doesn't even need said, if that's your point..

you can't explain away the dif of how TL looked and how Brock looked through supporting cast.. that ignores how robotic TL was looking and how smooth BP was looking, that's not 100% on CMC, recall Baker played with CMC and got fired for example.

No I am not. YOU are doing that in your head.

You are making me want to stop engaging with you on this board. Its ridiculous that you are even arguing at this point. Literally all I said was the circumstances around Trey's week 1 start was vastly different than the circumstances Brock faced (and listed the circumstances). Why cant you just move along? You are literally creating an argument in your head, and arguing against facts.

Originally posted by genus49:
I know you saw my post talking about Trent freaking Williams play in week 1 earlier.

I know you skipped it because it's hard to ignore a simple fact that he didn't play well that game. Whole OL played like crap.

You keep laughing and pointing to Justin Fields and the Bears playing in the same conditions...on their home field. Weather like that is a talent eliminator and clearly if you watch the game the 49ers were struggling with their footing much more than the Bears.

Explain to me how a 5th round rookie for the Bears has a monster game against all of our talent and Trent freaking Williams and then disappears the rest of the season, much like the Bears did.

Almost like that week 1 game was a complete aberration.

Nope...just Trey Lance stinking it up apparently.

we are going in circles but I'm not gonna sit here and blow smoke about week 1 like it was some impressive display from TL.. he stunk that game.. it's 1 game who cares, JG had clunkers, pretty sure every 49er QB has..

we don't need to make stuff up to paint a picture of week 1 as some Picasso masterpiece, or some unwinnable situation cuz of all the excuses..
TL himself said he didn't play well that day or up to standard, and he needs to get better / play better, he does

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
we are going in circles but I'm not gonna sit here and blow smoke about week 1 like it was some impressive display from TL.. he stunk that game.. it's 1 game who cares, JG had clunkers, pretty sure every 49er QB has..

we don't need to make stuff up to paint a picture of week 1 as some Picasso masterpiece, or some unwinnable situation cuz of all the excuses..
TL himself said he didn't play well that day or up to standard, and he needs to get better / play better, he does

Only do that for week 3 or the 2021 playoffs.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
LMAO

Yeah Brock losing Deebo in the middle of a game that was already a blowout is the same thing as:

-No Kittle
-Jeff Wilson Jr. instead of Christian Mccaffrey
-60% of the OL playing for the first time
-playing in the rain on the road
-week 1

Yeah, totally even.

notice the no Kittle, no CMC comments..
plus our OL is playing for the first time.. with HOF Trent btw
and again the infamous weather..

ppl can decide for themselves if this is anything worth discussing many months later or if it's just excuses for why we lost to a 3-14 team that earned pick #1
if JF can win with Pettis, EQ ST Brown, TL can win with Deebo, Trent, BA and put it in the endzone.. but he's got to improve

Dude. Your reading comprehension is painfully bad, or you are being intentionally obtuse.

That list is not a list of reasons/excuses why the 49ers lost. It is not a list of reasons why Trey didnt have a good game. It is literally just a factual list of differences between week 1 and the games Purdy played in. Period.

Stop changing the conversation or turning this into something it isnt.

You make it sound like Shanahan, Deebo, Aiyuk, Trent freaking Williams, Juice are all a group of chumps..

are they as good as the same with CMC / Kittle.. obviously no, that doesn't even need said, if that's your point..

you can't explain away the dif of how TL looked and how Brock looked through supporting cast.. that ignores how robotic TL was looking and how smooth BP was looking, that's not 100% on CMC, recall Baker played with CMC and got fired for example.

No I am not. YOU are doing that in your head.

You are making me want to stop engaging with you on this board. Its ridiculous that you are even arguing at this point. Literally all I said was the circumstances around Trey's week 1 start was vastly different than the circumstances Brock faced (and listed the circumstances). Why cant you just move along? You are literally creating an argument in your head, and arguing against facts.

if your point is the offense is better than CMC what kind of point is that.. that doesn't need said
my point stands that if you want to talk vast talent differences.. I saw one week 1, and TL had the talent around him, JF didn't.. we legit cut Pettis from our roster, ST Brown cut as well

what I hear is a lot of reasons for why BP did well and TL didn't and I don't buy it.. I will say of course we are better with CMC, but if JF can win with cut receivers no one wants vs the #1 D; then Deebo, BA, Shanahan, Trent are all filet mignon compared to what Fields had to work with..

I see 49er fans all around me disregarding our talent; for example I was laughed at when I called our tackles bookend tackles, meanwhile in the real NFL, Trent is going to Canton, and McG just got paid $87.5 million. We aren't a bad roster, even without CMC we are very very good. Bears would have traded talent with us in a heartbeat, and try imaging for a second TL with no Deebo, no BA, no Trent, no Shanny and EQ St Brown and Pettis.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

If Jimmy was the alternative or Darnold, I'd agree and would accept that. After watching what Brock did, no way would I give him all the time and opportunities. He clearly gets a chance this off season but if it doesn't look anything close to what I witnessed last year, i'd be putting Brock in once he's cleared and ready.

First off this isn't me s**tting on Brock, want to make that completely clear…this is just a statement of what I saw. Yes Brock processed much quicker. He played well under pressure, especially compared to Jimmy. Overall I didn't see some magical QB play…especially as the season went on and into the playoffs. Both young QBs are gonna be developing here. It's not prime Rogers or whatever. There's gonna be ups and downs from them.

Can Brock develop more? Can he sustain the TD to INT ratio? I don't know. Im all for seeing where it goes, but I'm not gonna hand the keys over to anyone regardless. I don't think Lance or Brock get a full season of up and down play. IMO we will probably see both guys playing this year.

Everyone else saw a historic start by a rookie, NY saw nothing special.

LOL

Brock is miles ahead of Trey in development.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

we are going in circles but I'm not gonna sit here and blow smoke about week 1 like it was some impressive display from TL.. he stunk that game.. it's 1 game who cares, JG had clunkers, pretty sure every 49er QB has..

we don't need to make stuff up to paint a picture of week 1 as some Picasso masterpiece, or some unwinnable situation cuz of all the excuses..
TL himself said he didn't play well that day or up to standard, and he needs to get better / play better, he does

Only do that for week 3 or the 2021 playoffs.

Why do thay inn the Lance thread?

Why is Lynch scared to let Trey compete?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Why do thay inn the Lance thread?

Why bring up Justin Fields or the Bears?

Originally posted by krizay:
Why is Lynch scared to let Trey compete?

Interesting interpretation

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Why do thay inn the Lance thread?

Why bring up Justin Fields?

If ppl mention the weather from week 1 I will talk about that game and share my thoughts on it

TL and JF both played that day

they are both QBs in the same draft class, so there will be career comps between all those guys, particularly on the guys we passed on..

it's like Alex Smith / Aaron Rodgers.. those guys are forever linked for 49er fans

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
If ppl mention the weather from week 1 I will talk about that game and share my thoughts on it

TL and JF both played that day

they are both QBs in the same draft class, so there will be career comps between all those guys, particularly on the guys we passed on..

it's like Alex Smith / Aaron Rodgers.. those guys are forever linked for 49er fans

Better ask the Hall Monitor if thats ok.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Man Lynch really pissed off all the team Lancers.

The fact that you guys think there are team Lance and team Purdy speaks volumes about you.

Only team I care about is the 49ers. A competition between those guys is best for the team because with our track record we better make sure whoever QB2 is we want the best version of that guy out there.

Brock having a leg up on the job makes sense. Trey will have a leg up on showing what he can do without Brock there so he better take advantage while he can.

Nate Sudfeld had a leg up on QB2/3 last year over Brock Purdy but Brock obviously showed the 49ers enough to send Sudfeld packing despite guaranteed money dwarfing Brock's salary so guys can take advantage of their opportunities.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Why do thay in the Lance thread?

Why bring up Justin Fields or the Bears?

What does the 2021 playoffs have to do with Justin Fields or Trey Lance?