Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by genus49:
Still can't admit Trent freaking Williams and all the other guys who were supposed to put Trey on their back had a rough week 1 game huh?

And you putting "it's 1 game, who cares" is also hilarious when you're basing the bulk of your assessment on the kid from that game and choosing to bury your head in the sand acting like the rest of the team didn't stink and stink worse given their usual level of play.

No the team didn't stink.. it's a QBs job to elevate everyone around him, that's what good QBs do, that's what a rook Purdy did.

I'm not looking at week 1 with TL not really functional at QB, not accurate and posting about how it's Trent Williams fault..

to put this in perspective CHI finished 32nd in the NFL in points allowed. Dead last 27+ppg avg. TL wasn't ready for week 1 and that's why KS made the 'learning on the fly' remark as we entered the season. Offseason is the best thing to happen to TL he needs it. Can he use these next handful of months to get more consistent putting the ball where he wants, to play with more anticipation?

I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

So basically Trey Lance should be judged for one game at Chicago and that´s it? Thank god John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan don´t think like that otherwise they would have cut Dre Greenlaw after the game.^^ What a bad, bad decision it would have been.

I´m not gonna say Lance is gonna be a great QB because the sample size is way too small but I´m not gonna say he´s a bust either. This 2022 season was the moment for him to show what he really is. And he destroyed his ankle in the first quarter of the second game! Even if he had a perfect first game against the Bears and the Niners would have won by 40 points what can you say?
I will also certainly not make any assumptions like Mike Martz did. This guy should stop talking about 49ers QBs after the JT O´Sullivan thing.
I mean look at Trevor Lawrence. He was horrible his rookie season. Yes there´s the Urban Meyer factor but still he was bad. Should the Jaguars have moved on from him? Of course not.
Josh Allen was bad his rookie season, better his second but nobody thought he would be the f**king destroyer he is now.
These guys got reps and improve game after game, season after season.
If you want to say that Lance is injury prone or that Purdy earned the starting job next season, that´s totally fair and logical.
But all these morons that keep posting message after message about how Lance is a bust should seriously stop because they don´t know.

And I´m quite amused by the way about some messages when I read the first pages of the Purdy´s topic.
You never know in sport. Remember Alex. Yeah he never was Aaron Rodgers but with good coaching he ended being a Pro Bowl QB. And that´s Alex Smith after a shoulder´s surgery and multiple coachs that tried to crush his career.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Still can't admit Trent freaking Williams and all the other guys who were supposed to put Trey on their back had a rough week 1 game huh?

And you putting "it's 1 game, who cares" is also hilarious when you're basing the bulk of your assessment on the kid from that game and choosing to bury your head in the sand acting like the rest of the team didn't stink and stink worse given their usual level of play.

No the team didn't stink.. it's a QBs job to elevate everyone around him, that's what good QBs do, that's what a rook Purdy did.

I'm not looking at week 1 with TL not really functional at QB, not accurate and posting about how it's Trent Williams fault..

to put this in perspective CHI finished 32nd in the NFL in points allowed. Dead last 27+ppg avg. TL wasn't ready for week 1 and that's why KS made the 'learning on the fly' remark as we entered the season. Offseason is the best thing to happen to TL he needs it. Can he use these next handful of months to get more consistent putting the ball where he wants, to play with more anticipation?

Bro! I wouldn't consider myself a big Trey fan. However, week 1 was not on Trey. IMO he actually played better than JF. No Trey didn't make plays to win it. I also don't think he really did much to lose it.

Deebo's fumble. Dumbass personal foul penalties. There was plenty of blame to go around.

No more different than the NFCCG loss to the Rams. It doesn't always have to be the QBs fault. Sometimes it truly is a team loss

Originally posted by pdc20:
So basically Trey Lance should be judged for one game at Chicago and that´s it?

Most coaches grade players after every game they review each play and review if it was good, bad, or ugly. If you mean he's finished here by the that's it comment.. he isn't.

He's gonna get starts in 2023, BP won't be healthy for a long time is my guess. He has to play better than that game if he wants to stick here.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I thought the narrative was Purdy needed the 12 weeks to become the guy he became and Jimmy saved the season. Now Purdy could've walked in week 1 and been better than both guys all year?

Even less controversial than the narrative that water is wet and the sun is bright.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Still can't admit Trent freaking Williams and all the other guys who were supposed to put Trey on their back had a rough week 1 game huh?

And you putting "it's 1 game, who cares" is also hilarious when you're basing the bulk of your assessment on the kid from that game and choosing to bury your head in the sand acting like the rest of the team didn't stink and stink worse given their usual level of play.

No the team didn't stink.. it's a QBs job to elevate everyone around him, that's what good QBs do, that's what a rook Purdy did.

I'm not looking at week 1 with TL not really functional at QB, not accurate and posting about how it's Trent Williams fault..

to put this in perspective CHI finished 32nd in the NFL in points allowed. Dead last 27+ppg avg. TL wasn't ready for week 1 and that's why KS made the 'learning on the fly' remark as we entered the season. Offseason is the best thing to happen to TL he needs it. Can he use these next handful of months to get more consistent putting the ball where he wants, to play with more anticipation?

Bro! I wouldn't consider myself a big Trey fan. However, week 1 was not on Trey. IMO he actually played better than JF. No Trey didn't make plays to win it. I also don't think he really did much to lose it.

Deebo's fumble. Dumbass personal foul penalties. There was plenty of blame to go around.

No more different than the NFCCG loss to the Rams. It doesn't always have to be the QBs fault. Sometimes it truly is a team loss

I'm not saying he's the only reason we lost, never or rarely is one guy the sole reason we win or lose.

I'm saying he didn't play well. He didn't look good. I don't chalk it up to weather or his guys around him failing. He just didn't have a good game out there.
He didn't play better than JF in my mind. JF hit his wide open TDs, TL didn't.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Still can't admit Trent freaking Williams and all the other guys who were supposed to put Trey on their back had a rough week 1 game huh?

And you putting "it's 1 game, who cares" is also hilarious when you're basing the bulk of your assessment on the kid from that game and choosing to bury your head in the sand acting like the rest of the team didn't stink and stink worse given their usual level of play.

No the team didn't stink.. it's a QBs job to elevate everyone around him, that's what good QBs do, that's what a rook Purdy did.

I'm not looking at week 1 with TL not really functional at QB, not accurate and posting about how it's Trent Williams fault..

to put this in perspective CHI finished 32nd in the NFL in points allowed. Dead last 27+ppg avg. TL wasn't ready for week 1 and that's why KS made the 'learning on the fly' remark as we entered the season. Offseason is the best thing to happen to TL he needs it. Can he use these next handful of months to get more consistent putting the ball where he wants, to play with more anticipation?

Bro! I wouldn't consider myself a big Trey fan. However, week 1 was not on Trey. IMO he actually played better than JF. No Trey didn't make plays to win it. I also don't think he really did much to lose it.

Deebo's fumble. Dumbass personal foul penalties. There was plenty of blame to go around.

No more different than the NFCCG loss to the Rams. It doesn't always have to be the QBs fault. Sometimes it truly is a team loss

I'm not saying he's the only reason we lost, never or rarely is one guy the sole reason we win or lose.

I'm saying he didn't play well. He didn't look good. I don't chalk it up to weather or his guys around him failing. He just didn't have a good game out there.
He didn't play better than JF in my mind. JF hit his wide open TDs, TL didn't.

I'm sorry. It's just hilarious to talk up Justin Fields game while you're talking down about Trey, in that game specifically.

To me, the story of the NFL last season was how even the teams were. It felt like every week there was a huge upset.

The Bears (picking #1 overall) gave the Eagles (arguably the most complete team in the NFL) everything they could handle, and yet you consistently act like any context in that game is excuse.

If any context is an excuse, then you have to apply that to all QBs. Because to not even mention Dre Greenlaw's play is certainly not trying to paint the picture correctly of how that game unraveled.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Still can't admit Trent freaking Williams and all the other guys who were supposed to put Trey on their back had a rough week 1 game huh?

And you putting "it's 1 game, who cares" is also hilarious when you're basing the bulk of your assessment on the kid from that game and choosing to bury your head in the sand acting like the rest of the team didn't stink and stink worse given their usual level of play.

No the team didn't stink.. it's a QBs job to elevate everyone around him, that's what good QBs do, that's what a rook Purdy did.

I'm not looking at week 1 with TL not really functional at QB, not accurate and posting about how it's Trent Williams fault..

to put this in perspective CHI finished 32nd in the NFL in points allowed. Dead last 27+ppg avg. TL wasn't ready for week 1 and that's why KS made the 'learning on the fly' remark as we entered the season. Offseason is the best thing to happen to TL he needs it. Can he use these next handful of months to get more consistent putting the ball where he wants, to play with more anticipation?

Bro! I wouldn't consider myself a big Trey fan. However, week 1 was not on Trey. IMO he actually played better than JF. No Trey didn't make plays to win it. I also don't think he really did much to lose it.

Deebo's fumble. Dumbass personal foul penalties. There was plenty of blame to go around.

No more different than the NFCCG loss to the Rams. It doesn't always have to be the QBs fault. Sometimes it truly is a team loss

I'm not saying he's the only reason we lost, never or rarely is one guy the sole reason we win or lose.

I'm saying he didn't play well. He didn't look good. I don't chalk it up to weather or his guys around him failing. He just didn't have a good game out there.
He didn't play better than JF in my mind. JF hit his wide open TDs, TL didn't.

they both had wide open TDs on a platter but one QB hit theirs, why is this so comical? TL isn't very accurate right now, and he needs to work on it

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Still can't admit Trent freaking Williams and all the other guys who were supposed to put Trey on their back had a rough week 1 game huh?

And you putting "it's 1 game, who cares" is also hilarious when you're basing the bulk of your assessment on the kid from that game and choosing to bury your head in the sand acting like the rest of the team didn't stink and stink worse given their usual level of play.

No the team didn't stink.. it's a QBs job to elevate everyone around him, that's what good QBs do, that's what a rook Purdy did.

I'm not looking at week 1 with TL not really functional at QB, not accurate and posting about how it's Trent Williams fault..

to put this in perspective CHI finished 32nd in the NFL in points allowed. Dead last 27+ppg avg. TL wasn't ready for week 1 and that's why KS made the 'learning on the fly' remark as we entered the season. Offseason is the best thing to happen to TL he needs it. Can he use these next handful of months to get more consistent putting the ball where he wants, to play with more anticipation?

Bro! I wouldn't consider myself a big Trey fan. However, week 1 was not on Trey. IMO he actually played better than JF. No Trey didn't make plays to win it. I also don't think he really did much to lose it.

Deebo's fumble. Dumbass personal foul penalties. There was plenty of blame to go around.

No more different than the NFCCG loss to the Rams. It doesn't always have to be the QBs fault. Sometimes it truly is a team loss

I'm not saying he's the only reason we lost, never or rarely is one guy the sole reason we win or lose.

I'm saying he didn't play well. He didn't look good. I don't chalk it up to weather or his guys around him failing. He just didn't have a good game out there.
He didn't play better than JF in my mind. JF hit his wide open TDs, TL didn't.

I agree he didn't play well. Neither did but all JF did was hit his 2 open guys. Outside of that

Originally posted by Koldo:
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John Lynch on 49ers' starting QB job: "With the way he's played, Brock's probably the leader in the clubhouse for that (if he's healthy)"

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) March 27, 2023

Put Treystans on suicide watch.

Obvious to anyone that watched niner games

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I don't know why I come into this thread when it's the same 5 or so posters posting the same disingenuous arguments over and over again for 1000s of pages. If you don't like Trey, you don't need to justify it.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Still can't admit Trent freaking Williams and all the other guys who were supposed to put Trey on their back had a rough week 1 game huh?

And you putting "it's 1 game, who cares" is also hilarious when you're basing the bulk of your assessment on the kid from that game and choosing to bury your head in the sand acting like the rest of the team didn't stink and stink worse given their usual level of play.

No the team didn't stink.. it's a QBs job to elevate everyone around him, that's what good QBs do, that's what a rook Purdy did.

I'm not looking at week 1 with TL not really functional at QB, not accurate and posting about how it's Trent Williams fault..

to put this in perspective CHI finished 32nd in the NFL in points allowed. Dead last 27+ppg avg. TL wasn't ready for week 1 and that's why KS made the 'learning on the fly' remark as we entered the season. Offseason is the best thing to happen to TL he needs it. Can he use these next handful of months to get more consistent putting the ball where he wants, to play with more anticipation?

Bro! I wouldn't consider myself a big Trey fan. However, week 1 was not on Trey. IMO he actually played better than JF. No Trey didn't make plays to win it. I also don't think he really did much to lose it.

Deebo's fumble. Dumbass personal foul penalties. There was plenty of blame to go around.

No more different than the NFCCG loss to the Rams. It doesn't always have to be the QBs fault. Sometimes it truly is a team loss

I'm not saying he's the only reason we lost, never or rarely is one guy the sole reason we win or lose.

I'm saying he didn't play well. He didn't look good. I don't chalk it up to weather or his guys around him failing. He just didn't have a good game out there.
He didn't play better than JF in my mind. JF hit his wide open TDs, TL didn't.

they both had wide open TDs on a platter but one QB hit theirs, why is this so comical? TL isn't very accurate right now, and he needs to work on it

Updated My post... BTW you can find me saying Trey needs to make those throws, no excuses. Right after the game.

But when we're talking big picture, and people are trying to make the case that there's no hope for Lance, you bet your a$$ that context is relevant.

We shall see. IF Brock can compete in training camp he should be QB1 based on last season's play. Now I'm no doctor but I was under the assumption he'd be healed enough to compete days before the start of week one and that would make Trey the odds on favorite to start the season BUT if Brock can compete during TC things tilt in his favor

Either way I trust the coaches to put the guy out there they most believe in to get us wins

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We shall see. IF Brock can compete in training camp he should be QB1 based on last season's play. Now I'm no doctor but I was under the assumption he'd be healed enough to compete days before the start of week one and that would make Trey the odds on favorite to start the season BUT if Brock can compete during TC things tilt in his favor

Either way I trust the coaches to put the guy out there they most believe in to get us wins

I agree with you

looking at that QB class

Lawrence - stud
Fields - electric last season and adding DJ Moore, Claypool, lot of draft picks, expected to take another step
Wilson - dud
Mac & Lance - both put on blast, Lance by JL and Mac by BB

I expect Mac and Lance to show up this offseason like their future depends on it cuz it does