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I wonder if we do for how much?
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Feb 28, 2018 at 9:10 AM
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Feb 28, 2018 at 9:34 AM
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Originally posted by StubbyNBY:I really hope we don't bring this guy back. At least Tomlinson was getting a little better down the stretch and still has some upside. Fusco is garbage IMO
I think you have it backwards.
Feb 28, 2018 at 9:36 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:tomlinson was horrible.. i really hope the stoppage of signing players from last year begins with tomlinson and continues with eli ward hyde lynch etc. but maybe i expect to much
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
I really hope we don't bring this guy back. At least Tomlinson was getting a little better down the stretch and still has some upside. Fusco is garbage IMO
I think you have it backwards.
Feb 28, 2018 at 9:40 AM
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Originally posted by jcs:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Fusco-Proved-Worth-and-Could-Re-Sign-With-49ers-475414403.html
I wonder if we do for how much?
Among recent RG contracts, Larry Warford of New Orleans is ranked #18 to Fusco's #21. Warford is getting $8M/yr. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff of KC is #15 and gets $8.250M/yr.
I would guess Fusco, not having quite the same history with the same club, to get around $6.7-7M/yr.
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Feb 28, 2018 at 9:44 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by NCommand:tomlinson was horrible.. i really hope the stoppage of signing players from last year begins with tomlinson and continues with eli ward hyde lynch etc. but maybe i expect to much
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
I really hope we don't bring this guy back. At least Tomlinson was getting a little better down the stretch and still has some upside. Fusco is garbage IMO
I think you have it backwards.
Tomlinson was bad when he first arrived, however, he did improve as the season progressed. He wound up ranked #32 after being in the 50s after three or four games. He was a decent run blocker but struggled in pass pro.
At best he is a backup.
Feb 28, 2018 at 9:45 AM
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Originally posted by dj43:At that price is he expected to start?
Originally posted by jcs:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Fusco-Proved-Worth-and-Could-Re-Sign-With-49ers-475414403.html
I wonder if we do for how much?
Among recent RG contracts, Larry Warford of New Orleans is ranked #18 to Fusco's #21. Warford is getting $8M/yr. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff of KC is #15 and gets $8.250M/yr.
I would guess Fusco, not having quite the same history with the same club, to get around $6.7-7M/yr.
Feb 28, 2018 at 9:54 AM
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Originally posted by jcs:At that price is he expected to start?Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by jcs:https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Fusco-Proved-Worth-and-Could-Re-Sign-With-49ers-475414403.html
I wonder if we do for how much?
Among recent RG contracts, Larry Warford of New Orleans is ranked #18 to Fusco's #21. Warford is getting $8M/yr. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff of KC is #15 and gets $8.250M/yr.
I would guess Fusco, not having quite the same history with the same club, to get around $6.7-7M/yr.
Compete but he'd have a big inside track given that's a pretty solid season in year 1 of a complicated system. A guy like Garnett would really have to prove he's a clear cut better option.
Feb 28, 2018 at 9:59 AM
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Originally posted by dj43:
Tomlinson was bad when he first arrived, however, he did improve as the season progressed. He wound up ranked #32 after being in the 50s after three or four games. He was a decent run blocker but struggled in pass pro.
At best he is a backup.
i do not think that is a good reason for keeping him. i think we can find better people in free agency and the draft. its like people are forgetting how bad our line was last year and are totally fine with keeping the line intact from last year. we do not need a guy who struggles in pass protection around here but thats just me. co signed by jimmy
Feb 28, 2018 at 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:i do not think that is a good reason for keeping him. i think we can find better people in free agency and the draft. its like people are forgetting how bad our line was last year and are totally fine with keeping the line intact from last year. we do not need a guy who struggles in pass protection around here but thats just me. co signed by jimmy
I think you only saw games where our Oline was blocking for Brian Hoyer and CJ Beathard. Once a capable QB with actual pocket awareness came in our line was vastly improved.
Coincidence?
Feb 28, 2018 at 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by SteveYoung:jimmy put a band aid on it for six games. teams now have the entire off season to scheme how to get to him. if we do not respond in kind to fixing the o line . well i just do not know.. of course i am proceeding from the assumption that our line does need to be fixed.
Originally posted by cciowa:
i do not think that is a good reason for keeping him. i think we can find better people in free agency and the draft. its like people are forgetting how bad our line was last year and are totally fine with keeping the line intact from last year. we do not need a guy who struggles in pass protection around here but thats just me. co signed by jimmy
I think you only saw games where our Oline was blocking for Brian Hoyer and CJ Beathard. Once a capable QB with actual pocket awareness came in our line was vastly improved.
Coincidence?
Feb 28, 2018 at 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
100% agree.
However, let's be clear here - they need more talent inside that OL. We can't just replug those guys in there again and expect a quantum leap with improved play.
i swear on mayos penis. there are some who think that. that our offensive line is not as bad as we think, that jimmy made it better and now all of a sudden his presence will change everything and will stop kilgore from getting bullrushed
Feb 28, 2018 at 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:$7m a year isn't backup money though....
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by dj43:At that price is he expected to start?
Originally posted by jcs:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Fusco-Proved-Worth-and-Could-Re-Sign-With-49ers-475414403.html
I wonder if we do for how much?
Among recent RG contracts, Larry Warford of New Orleans is ranked #18 to Fusco's #21. Warford is getting $8M/yr. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff of KC is #15 and gets $8.250M/yr.
I would guess Fusco, not having quite the same history with the same club, to get around $6.7-7M/yr.
Compete but he'd have a big inside track given that's a pretty solid season in year 1 of a complicated system. A guy like Garnett would really have to prove he's a clear cut better option.
100% agree.
However, let's be clear here - they need more talent inside that OL. We can't just replug those guys in there again and expect a quantum leap with improved play.
Feb 28, 2018 at 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by jcs:$7m a year isn't backup money though....Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by jcs:At that price is he expected to start?Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by jcs:https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Fusco-Proved-Worth-and-Could-Re-Sign-With-49ers-475414403.html
I wonder if we do for how much?
Among recent RG contracts, Larry Warford of New Orleans is ranked #18 to Fusco's #21. Warford is getting $8M/yr. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff of KC is #15 and gets $8.250M/yr.
I would guess Fusco, not having quite the same history with the same club, to get around $6.7-7M/yr.
Compete but he'd have a big inside track given that's a pretty solid season in year 1 of a complicated system. A guy like Garnett would really have to prove he's a clear cut better option.
100% agree.
However, let's be clear here - they need more talent inside that OL. We can't just replug those guys in there again and expect a quantum leap with improved play.
Absolutely right and for me if we're considering Fusco at the number, hell we should consider all available OGs too.
Yeah, I want as much talent, competition and depth inside as possible esp. next to the streaky Kilgore.
Feb 28, 2018 at 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by dj43:At that price is he expected to start?
Originally posted by jcs:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Fusco-Proved-Worth-and-Could-Re-Sign-With-49ers-475414403.html
I wonder if we do for how much?
Among recent RG contracts, Larry Warford of New Orleans is ranked #18 to Fusco's #21. Warford is getting $8M/yr. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff of KC is #15 and gets $8.250M/yr.
I would guess Fusco, not having quite the same history with the same club, to get around $6.7-7M/yr.
Compete but he'd have a big inside track given that's a pretty solid season in year 1 of a complicated system. A guy like Garnett would really have to prove he's a clear cut better option.
100% agree.
However, let's be clear here - they need more talent inside that OL. We can't just replug those guys in there again and expect a quantum leap with improved play.
Ideally, Garnett comes back the player Kyle wants him to be and Tomlinson becomes his backup. Fusco continues his level of play from the second half of the season. Then bring in an OL draftee and let him learn for a season or two.
The problem is; there is not going to be a good FA solution this year for the interior OL (Norwell is a dream unfulfilled) and Quentin Nelson will be gone before we pick. Wynn is not NFL ready yet and #9 is too high for him anyway.
The key is replacing Tomlinson. We could live very well with Fusco playing as he did at the end of the season.
Feb 28, 2018 at 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:I agree. What I remember as most revealing was missing most if not all 3rd and one situations no matter if we ran at the center or either guard spots.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by dj43:At that price is he expected to start?
Originally posted by jcs:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Fusco-Proved-Worth-and-Could-Re-Sign-With-49ers-475414403.html
I wonder if we do for how much?
Among recent RG contracts, Larry Warford of New Orleans is ranked #18 to Fusco's #21. Warford is getting $8M/yr. Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff of KC is #15 and gets $8.250M/yr.
I would guess Fusco, not having quite the same history with the same club, to get around $6.7-7M/yr.
Compete but he'd have a big inside track given that's a pretty solid season in year 1 of a complicated system. A guy like Garnett would really have to prove he's a clear cut better option.
100% agree.
However, let's be clear here - they need more talent inside that OL. We can't just replug those guys in there again and expect a quantum leap with improved play.