TO looking like a clown

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You are obviously too young to know what happened to TO and the 9ers...locker room cancer is what he is and was to every team he was on

I loved the guy until he started acting stupid

Actually, I am old enough to remember exactly what happened. He got the reputation he got from the TD celebrations (the star and the Sharpie). People forget that. Before that, nobody in the media had a bad word to say about him. After those celebrations, they couldn't say enough bad things about him. That's where all the buzzwords you hear now about him originated. "Selfish, arrogant, diva, prima-donna, narcissistic"...all because he celebrated on Texas Stadium's star (if you ask me, f**k the Cowboys) and signed a ball with a freak'n Sharpie, which the guy he burned, Shawn Springs, thought was cool.

Here are what T.O.'s actual teammates have to say about him: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1584791-terrell-owens-a-great-teammate-players-and-coaches-defend-his-character

The pom poms, sharpies, popcorn, star incident never bothered me. It was throwing Garcia, and later McNabb, under the bus. The guy performed for sure but his classless exit here and the whole Ravens thing is what lingers. Oh and working out in his driveway lol.

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol. Ok. Make excuses for the guy because nothing is ever his fault. Not surprising you are a TO fan.

Make excuses for what? Celebrating touchdowns? I don't have to make excuses, he didn't do anything wrong.

This guy, however, did.



While Owens was starving himself on team flights because the pizza didn't fit in his diet, Garcia was out every weekend getting drunk off his ass and showing up to games hungover. But clearly, the drunken scumbag is the role model and the hard working, disciplined "rags to riches" kid is the disgrace to the organization.

What does Jeff Garcia have to do with anything?

LMAO

Come on, man.

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Why was T.O. considered a locker room cancer ?

Why did teams let him go

Why is he out of the league a little too early

It's not cause of the TD celebrations

He wasn't considered a locker room cancer by anyone but the media. His teammates say the exact opposite.

The 49ers traded him because they were rebuilding. Did you forget all the other guys who were actually let go that off-season, including Garcia?

He's 40-years-old. How is that "a little too early?" The guy was given a chance to make the Seahawks and didn't make it. He got old. It happens to everyone.

Yes, it is because of the TD celebrations. You must not have been a fan in 2000-2002.

This post is full of fail. LOL

Originally posted by wysiwyg:

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

You are obviously too young to know what happened to TO and the 9ers...locker room cancer is what he is and was to every team he was on

I loved the guy until he started acting stupid

Actually, I am old enough to remember exactly what happened. He got the reputation he got from the TD celebrations (the star and the Sharpie). People forget that. Before that, nobody in the media had a bad word to say about him. After those celebrations, they couldn't say enough bad things about him. That's where all the buzzwords you hear now about him originated. "Selfish, arrogant, diva, prima-donna, narcissistic"...all because he celebrated on Texas Stadium's star (if you ask me, f**k the Cowboys) and signed a ball with a freak'n Sharpie, which the guy he burned, Shawn Springs, thought was cool.

Here are what T.O.'s actual teammates have to say about him: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1584791-terrell-owens-a-great-teammate-players-and-coaches-defend-his-character

The pom poms, sharpies, popcorn, star incident never bothered me. It was throwing Garcia, and later McNabb, under the bus. The guy performed for sure but his classless exit here and the whole Ravens thing is what lingers. Oh and working out in his driveway lol.

Man that guy doesn't know what he is talking about...lol no one likes him for his TD celebrations lol

His Dallas Star incident was awesome. I miss that old NFL....where the players weren't all "friends", and the rivalries were frikkin real. If you watched the game, you saw how much the game meant to either side. First you had TO start it with the pose on the star. Then Emmitt Smith did it (which no one talks about)....so when TO scored again, he went back LOL, even waving off a high five from a teammate. Then you got salty old George Teague fresh from being burnt to a crisp by TO numerous times that day come in with a blindside cheapshot bodycheck.

Man...that was an awesome game. If you loved the Niners, you didn't care. But in truth, our fanbase was pretty polarized about it. A lot of people thought TO went over the line or whatever. Mooch suspended him a week...which I thought was lame. But I loved it....f**k the Cowboys.

Originally posted by wysiwyg:

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

You are obviously too young to know what happened to TO and the 9ers...locker room cancer is what he is and was to every team he was on

I loved the guy until he started acting stupid

Actually, I am old enough to remember exactly what happened. He got the reputation he got from the TD celebrations (the star and the Sharpie). People forget that. Before that, nobody in the media had a bad word to say about him. After those celebrations, they couldn't say enough bad things about him. That's where all the buzzwords you hear now about him originated. "Selfish, arrogant, diva, prima-donna, narcissistic"...all because he celebrated on Texas Stadium's star (if you ask me, f**k the Cowboys) and signed a ball with a freak'n Sharpie, which the guy he burned, Shawn Springs, thought was cool.

Here are what T.O.'s actual teammates have to say about him: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1584791-terrell-owens-a-great-teammate-players-and-coaches-defend-his-character

The pom poms, sharpies, popcorn, star incident never bothered me. It was throwing Garcia, and later McNabb, under the bus. The guy performed for sure but his classless exit here and the whole Ravens thing is what lingers. Oh and working out in his driveway lol.

Every word of this

Originally posted by wysiwyg:
The pom poms, sharpies, popcorn, star incident never bothered me. It was throwing Garcia, and later McNabb, under the bus. The guy performed for sure but his classless exit here and the whole Ravens thing is what lingers. Oh and working out in his driveway lol.

But they bothered the media, and that's the entire reason he has the reputation he does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ktz7ZOsPt4

Also, when did he throw Garcia or McNabb under the bus? Be specific, so I can debunk this crap.

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by wysiwyg:

The pom poms, sharpies, popcorn, star incident never bothered me. It was throwing Garcia, and later McNabb, under the bus. The guy performed for sure but his classless exit here and the whole Ravens thing is what lingers. Oh and working out in his driveway lol.

But they bothered the media, and that's the entire reason he has the reputation he does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ktz7ZOsPt4

Also, when did he throw Garcia or McNabb under the bus? Be specific, so I can debunk this crap.

Really? Tried to out Garcia as gay in a huge interview and then trashing Mcnabb after the SB then going on to say PHI would be better off with Favre..all this after McNabb campaigned to have PHI bring TO aboard. Debunk away.

If he ever gets inducted to the HOF I hope he's wearing our gear so I welcome him back.

He did wear out his welcome though.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by wysiwyg:

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You are obviously too young to know what happened to TO and the 9ers...locker room cancer is what he is and was to every team he was on

I loved the guy until he started acting stupid

Actually, I am old enough to remember exactly what happened. He got the reputation he got from the TD celebrations (the star and the Sharpie). People forget that. Before that, nobody in the media had a bad word to say about him. After those celebrations, they couldn't say enough bad things about him. That's where all the buzzwords you hear now about him originated. "Selfish, arrogant, diva, prima-donna, narcissistic"...all because he celebrated on Texas Stadium's star (if you ask me, f**k the Cowboys) and signed a ball with a freak'n Sharpie, which the guy he burned, Shawn Springs, thought was cool.

Here are what T.O.'s actual teammates have to say about him: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1584791-terrell-owens-a-great-teammate-players-and-coaches-defend-his-character

The pom poms, sharpies, popcorn, star incident never bothered me. It was throwing Garcia, and later McNabb, under the bus. The guy performed for sure but his classless exit here and the whole Ravens thing is what lingers. Oh and working out in his driveway lol.

Man that guy doesn't know what he is talking about...lol no one likes him for his TD celebrations lol

Actually he does lol just because you have a different opinion

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Really? Tried to out Garcia as gay in a huge interview and then trashing Mcnabb after the SB then going on to say PHI would be better off with Favre..all this after McNabb campaigned to have PHI bring TO aboard. Debunk away.

1. He never tried to out Garcia as gay, in a huge interview or anywhere else. Playboy tried to out Garcia.

2. Since there's nothing wrong with being gay, and Terrell Owens knows this, even if he had, it wouldn't be any big deal. Especially since the two were no longer teammates, as the Playboy interview where they asked him if he thought Garcia was gay came in the summer of 2004. Owens was as much Garcia's teammate as Conan O'Brien was Ricky Martin's father. Try that one on for size.

Here's what Terrell Owens has to say: https://twitter.com/terrellowens/status/258622767157637121

3. He never trashed McNabb after the Super Bowl. Hank Fraley, Freddie Mitchell, and John Runyan all accused McNabb of getting tired in the Super Bowl. Owens never did, though. The media accused Owens of saying that, but all Owens ever said was, "I wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl" when he was discussing his physical conditioning with Len Pasquarelli. He never said a word about Donovan McNabb.

4. Michael Irvin said the Eagles would be better off with Favre. Owens was asked if he agreed with it and he said he did because McNabb was injured.

5. McNabb never campaigned to bring Owens to Philly.

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Really? Tried to out Garcia as gay in a huge interview and then trashing Mcnabb after the SB then going on to say PHI would be better off with Favre..all this after McNabb campaigned to have PHI bring TO aboard. Debunk away.

1. He never tried to out Garcia as gay, in a huge interview or anywhere else. Playboy tried to out Garcia.

2. Since there's nothing wrong with being gay, and Terrell Owens knows this, even if he had, it wouldn't be any big deal. Especially since the two were no longer teammates, as the Playboy interview where they asked him if he thought Garcia was gay came in the summer of 2004. Owens was as much Garcia's teammate as Conan O'Brien was Ricky Martin's father. Try that one on for size.

Here's what Terrell Owens has to say: https://twitter.com/terrellowens/status/258622767157637121

3. He never trashed McNabb after the Super Bowl. Hank Fraley, Freddie Mitchell, and John Runyan all accused McNabb of getting tired in the Super Bowl. Owens never did, though. They accused Owens of saying that, but all Owens ever said was, "I wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl" when he was discussing his physical conditioning with Len Pasquarelli. He never said a word about Donovan McNabb.

4. Michael Irvin said the Eagles would be better off with Favre. Owens was asked if he agreed with it and he said he did because McNabb was injured.

5. McNabb never campaigned to bring Owens to Philly.

Is that you Terrell? If it is, you were a team cancer, you did throw teammates under the bus...coaches too. You were a favorite player of mine and you turned into a terrible douchenozzle.

I never understood the outrage over TO. Yes, he behaved like a prick now and then. Often, even. And his exit from SF could have been more gracious. But the guy gave us years of stellar service, played with passion, and has always been publicly respectful of the team. In every interview of his I've seen, he always mentions the 9ers as the most talented team he's been in. I know all about the Romo being his best QB quote, although you must admit that when he played with Steve, the latter was towards the end of his career and TO was not the featured receiver (that was the GOAT, obviously). I don't find it strange that WRs identify more with QBs who always go to them first.

Anyway, TO's sin for many 9ers fans is really that he was a false dawn in the twilight of the dynasty years. People really pin it on him (or the missed block on Aeneas Williams, or even Aeneas Williams himself, as if he shouldn't have made a play when he had a chance). But the dynasty would have ended. It's impossible to keep being the best for so many years in this era of parity and the cap. Is TO one of my favourite Niners? No, he's not even in the top 10. Perhaps if he had won a championship with us, but as it is people like Roger, Jones, Rathman, BY, Hearst (and the HOFamers obviously, and the obvious names from the new generation like Frank and Willis) are ahead of him. But I respect him as a player and am happy for what he did for this team. If anything, I find his being ostracised by the NFL and the media tragic. Not to mention his being broke. TO would be much better on TV than that idiot Ray Lewis, but the narrative is that Lewis is a wonderful person despite his being named in a murder charge and his suspicious recovery from injury (not to mention his infuriating pseudo-religious crap), whereas TO, an athlete who was always clean and hardworking, is a "cancer" and a "headcase". He was certainly arrogant and a bit of an idiot to make so many enemies, but he doesn't deserve this.

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:
No, it speaks volumes about what idiots our fans are. They make Jeff .237 DUI Garcia into a hero and the victim of Big, Bad Terrell Owens, while they vilify the hard working small town southern black man because the media told them his TD celebrations made him a horrible person.

Jeff "happy feet" Garcia was a hero around here? What are you smoking? And then you turn this into a racist argument. Jerry Rice is an unquestioned hero and he is a southern black man so stop failing with your argument.

Originally posted by facestabber:
Jeff "happy feet" Garcia was a hero around here? What are you smoking? And then you turn this into a racist argument. Jerry Rice is an unquestioned hero and he is a southern black man so stop failing with your argument.

Um, yes? Garcia is liked and respected and defended and considered a "good guy" and made out to be the victim of Mean 'Ole T.O. by the vast majority of 49er fans.

You mentioning Rice is a complete non-sequitur. You are failing at following along. Our fans don't know that Owens's persona is a that of a small town country black guy who got down in the trenches and worked his way out of the dirt roads. They don't have any clue where he came from or how he got here or how he conducted himself in preparing for football games, instead vilifying him and defending the town drunk he had to try to catch passes from.

While we're on the subject of Jerry Rice, it should be noted that Mr. Rice had enough of Garcia after 1.5 seasons. Didn't anybody notice that? Rice was on the sidelines shouting at Mariucci, "tell him to throw a f-ing spiral!!! A f-ing spiral!!!" after he dropped a short Garcia wobbler at the goal line against the Cowboys in 2000. In the off-season, he was granted his release and signed with the Raiders. Now why do you think that is?

Rice's loyalty only extended so far, and the man who alternated towels saying "Flash 80" and "Sweet Rice," and who had a custom made license plate saying, "Flash 80," wasn't about to put the organization over his own needs and wants. Our fans don't vilify "I ain't no m-f'ing decoy" for his obvious selfishness and diva personality, though. The pylon kicking whiner, post-Raiders OT win, when his consecutive games with a catch streak ended. He was traded to Seattle that season. Why do you think that is?