TO looking like a clown

That escalted quickly.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
That escalted quickly.

Often does when Jordan gets into a discusion about TO.

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Really? Tried to out Garcia as gay in a huge interview and then trashing Mcnabb after the SB then going on to say PHI would be better off with Favre..all this after McNabb campaigned to have PHI bring TO aboard. Debunk away.

1. He never tried to out Garcia as gay, in a huge interview or anywhere else. Playboy tried to out Garcia.

2. Since there's nothing wrong with being gay, and Terrell Owens knows this, even if he had, it wouldn't be any big deal. Especially since the two were no longer teammates, as the Playboy interview where they asked him if he thought Garcia was gay came in the summer of 2004. Owens was as much Garcia's teammate as Conan O'Brien was Ricky Martin's father. Try that one on for size.

Here's what Terrell Owens has to say: https://twitter.com/terrellowens/status/258622767157637121

3. He never trashed McNabb after the Super Bowl. Hank Fraley, Freddie Mitchell, and John Runyan all accused McNabb of getting tired in the Super Bowl. Owens never did, though. The media accused Owens of saying that, but all Owens ever said was, "I wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl" when he was discussing his physical conditioning with Len Pasquarelli. He never said a word about Donovan McNabb.

4. Michael Irvin said the Eagles would be better off with Favre. Owens was asked if he agreed with it and he said he did because McNabb was injured.

5. McNabb never campaigned to bring Owens to Philly.

Playing the victim, having nothing but excuses and never taking responsibility for ones actions. I am highly impressed. You have managed to really capture the true essence of TO in this and every other of your posts in this thread. You really are a fan

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:
Um, yes? Garcia is liked and respected and defended and considered a "good guy" and made out to be the victim of Mean 'Ole T.O. by the vast majority of 49er fans.

You mentioning Rice is a complete non-sequitur. You are failing at following along. Our fans don't know that Owens's persona is a that of a small town country black guy who got down in the trenches and worked his way out of the dirt roads. They don't have any clue where he came from or how he got here or how he conducted himself in preparing for football games, instead vilifying him and defending the town drunk he had to try to catch passes from.

While we're on the subject of Jerry Rice, it should be noted that Mr. Rice had enough of Garcia after 1.5 seasons. Didn't anybody notice that? Rice was on the sidelines shouting at Mariucci, "tell him to throw a f-ing spiral!!! A f-ing spiral!!!" after he dropped a short Garcia wobbler at the goal line against the Cowboys in 2000. In the off-season, he was granted his release and signed with the Raiders. Now why do you think that is?

Rice's loyalty only extended so far, and the man who alternated towels saying "Flash 80" and "Sweet Rice," and who had a custom made license plate saying, "Flash 80," wasn't about to put the organization over his own needs and wants. Our fans don't vilify "I ain't no m-f'ing decoy" for his obvious selfishness and diva personality, though. The pylon kicking whiner, post-Raiders OT win, when his consecutive games with a catch streak ended. He was traded to Seattle that season. Why do you think that is?

Again, more fail. If this is the infamous Taber, this TO love isnt healthy for you. I was actually entertained by you back in the day. Wasnt it you that came up with the idea of posting personal pics?

T.O. was the man. One of my fav Niners .. why yal holding grudges? I watch football as a fan not a judge of a person's character whom I dont even know personally. With that said I'm glad he was at the game because he IS one of the all time great 49ers and made many memories for us all at Candlestick. Stop the hate

Originally posted by hubbyt:

T.O. was the man. One of my fav Niners .. why yal holding grudges? I watch football as a fan not a judge of a person's character whom I dont even know personally. With that said I'm glad he was at the game because he IS one of the all time great 49ers and made many memories for us all at Candlestick. Stop the hate

You have your opinions. They have theirs. Doesn't make it hate.

Originally posted by 49erfanSince81:
Um, yes? Garcia is liked and respected and defended and considered a "good guy" and made out to be the victim of Mean 'Ole T.O. by the vast majority of 49er fans.

You mentioning Rice is a complete non-sequitur. You are failing at following along. Our fans don't know that Owens's persona is a that of a small town country black guy who got down in the trenches and worked his way out of the dirt roads. They don't have any clue where he came from or how he got here or how he conducted himself in preparing for football games, instead vilifying him and defending the town drunk he had to try to catch passes from.

While we're on the subject of Jerry Rice, it should be noted that Mr. Rice had enough of Garcia after 1.5 seasons. Didn't anybody notice that? Rice was on the sidelines shouting at Mariucci, "tell him to throw a f-ing spiral!!! A f-ing spiral!!!" after he dropped a short Garcia wobbler at the goal line against the Cowboys in 2000. In the off-season, he was granted his release and signed with the Raiders. Now why do you think that is?

Rice's loyalty only extended so far, and the man who alternated towels saying "Flash 80" and "Sweet Rice," and who had a custom made license plate saying, "Flash 80," wasn't about to put the organization over his own needs and wants. Our fans don't vilify "I ain't no m-f'ing decoy" for his obvious selfishness and diva personality, though. The pylon kicking whiner, post-Raiders OT win, when his consecutive games with a catch streak ended. He was traded to Seattle that season. Why do you think that is?

Wow....I'm a TO supporter, and will always look on him fondly. But how did you manage in your "defense" of him to impugn and drag through the mud both Garcia and Rice?

TO was all about winning...and he didn't care who he pissed off along the way. I can still respect that. He wasn't about being your friend, he wanted most of all to win.

Rice leaving was a mutual decision...he wasn't the featured guy anymore and he probably wanted more money than the Niners were willing to pay to keep him.

Garcia's DUI was bad...but he wasn't the "town drunk"...the arrest occurred in the offseason and he probably already knew he wasn't coming back to the Niners at that point.

Your revisionist (aka BS) version of the events is laughable.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:

He was getting boo'ed when he talked

good, the only time i promote booing.. well that and people should boo roman everywhere he goes, no matter if he is going to a game or buying catfood at the store

This

TO was great, loved him as a 49er.

He was, however, the ultimate ass-clown.

2000 - During an October contest in Dallas, Owens celebrated scoring a touchdown by running to midfield of Texas Stadium and posing on the star logo of the Cowboys. He later repeated his actions following another TD and was blindsided by the Cowboys' George Teague.
2001 - After blowing a 19-point lead in Chicago and losing in overtime, the disgruntled receiver accused head coach Steve Mariucci of protecting good friend Dick Jauron, head coach of the Bears
2002 - In an October contest on Monday Night Football in Seattle, Owens pulled a 'Sharpie' marker out of his sock after catching a TD pass. He then proceeded to autograph the ball and hand it to his financial adviser sitting in an end zone luxury suite rented by Shawn Springs, the CB he had just beaten on the play.
2002 - After scoring a touchdown in a December contest with the Green Bay Packers, Owens celebrated with a pair of Pom-Poms borrowed from a 49ers cheerleader.
2003 - Following a bumpy season that included several sideline tirades by Owens, he and the team decided to part ways.
2004 - Owens' agent failed to meet a free agency deadline in March, making him ineligible to become a free agent. Because they retained his rights, the 49ers then traded him to the Baltimore Ravens, but Owens refused to report to his new team. He expressed his desire to play in Philadelphia, and filed a grievance, claiming he should be granted free agency. After a series of negotiations, a deal was worked out between the three teams which sent Owens to Philadelphia where he signed a seven-year, $49 million deal against the advice of the players' union.
2004 - In an interview with Playboy magazine, Owens hinted that ex-teammate Jeff Garcia was gay, a claim he later recanted.
2004 - In a November contest with the Baltimore Ravens, after scoring a touchdown, Owens openly mocked Ray Lewis by performing the middle linebacker's trademark celebration dance.
2004 - In a Monday Night contest later that month, Owens appeared in a controversial skit to kick off the network's presentation of the game which resulted in an FCC investigation.
2005 - Owens hired agent Drew Rosenhaus in April and announced he was not happy with his contract. He also tells CNBC that, despite making $7.5 million in 2004, he needs a new contract to "feed his family.".
2005 - After hinting that he might hold out of training camp, Owens shows up with a bad attitude, refusing to acknowledge the media or speak to his teammates. After a confrontation with head coach Andy Reid, he was suspended for one week.
2005 - During an interview with ESPN's Graham Bensinger on November 3, Owens took shots at the Eagles franchise for not publicly recognizing his 100th touchdown catch. During the interview he stated the Eagles showed a "lack of class". He also suggested the Eagles would be better off with Packers QB Brett Favre instead of Donovan McNabb.
2005 - On November 4, Owens issued a half-hearted apology through the media, but failed to deliver comments regarding Donovan McNabb, which head coach Andy Reid insisted he include.
2005 - Owens was suspended November 5 by the Eagles for the club's contest against the Washington Redskins on November 6.
2005 - On November 7, Owens' suspension was stretched to four games, and head coach Andy Reid added that Owens would not play for the remainder of the season.
2006 - On March 14, the Eagles cut Owens just one day before he was due a $5 million roster bonus.
2006 - On July 5, Owens released a tell-all book revealing his side of the story associated with his time in Philadelphia.
2006 - On July 13, Owens claimed he was misquoted in his autobiography. Owens blamed the use of the word 'heroic" in association with his return for Super Bowl XXXIX on his co-author.
2006 - On August 3, Owens missed the first of 14 consecutive days of practice because of a hamstring problem despite an MRI two days later revealing no major problems. After returning to practice for several days, Owens claimed he re-aggravated the injury because his coaches pushed him back to the playing field too soon. This time he didn't return to practice until August 29.
2006 - On August 10, while still out with an injured hamstring, Owens drew attention to himself by wearing the silver and blue uniform of Lance Armstrong's Discovery Channel pro cycling team while riding a stationary bicycle on the sidelines.
2006 - On September 26, Owens was taken by ambulance to Baylor University Medical Center for what was thought to be a suicide attempt. The following day, Owens denied trying to kill himself, claiming a mixture of pain pills and supplements caused him to be "out of it" when talking to emergency respondents
2006 - On October 11, Owens had a run-in with receivers coach Todd Haley. After being chastised for showing up late for practice (he later explained he was in the bathroom), Owens and Haley tangled during a meeting later in the day.
2006 - On December 16, in a victory over the Atlanta Falcons, Owens spit in the face of cornerback DeAngelo Hall.

Originally posted by MarkD:
Yep he still does

LOL, how can anyone hate him? He still cracks me up all the time

2006 - On July 13, Owens claimed he was misquoted in his autobiography

If it looks like a clown, and SMELLS like a clown, then BY GOLLY...

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Playing the victim, having nothing but excuses and never taking responsibility for ones actions. I am highly impressed. You have managed to really capture the true essence of TO in this and every other of your posts in this thread. You really are a fan

Again, excuses for what? He didn't do anything wrong. I'm waiting for someone to bring up something he did wrong. If you're desperate enough, maybe you can tell the story of this one time when he spat on the street.

Originally posted by kray28:
Wow....I'm a TO supporter, and will always look on him fondly. But how did you manage in your "defense" of him to impugn and drag through the mud both Garcia and Rice?

TO was all about winning...and he didn't care who he pissed off along the way. I can still respect that. He wasn't about being your friend, he wanted most of all to win.

Rice leaving was a mutual decision...he wasn't the featured guy anymore and he probably wanted more money than the Niners were willing to pay to keep him.

Garcia's DUI was bad...but he wasn't the "town drunk"...the arrest occurred in the offseason and he probably already knew he wasn't coming back to the Niners at that point.

Your revisionist (aka BS) version of the events is laughable.

Because Garcia and Rice are guilty of stuff. Garcia is a scumbag drunk driver, Rice was the ultimate "diva." I'd still take Rice on my team any day, because he was a great player. Garcia, forget about it...unless he's going to be a backup.

Rice wasn't the featured guy anymore, you're right. That and playing with Garcia was enough to get him to want to leave. What does that say about him, and what does that say about Garcia? How long do you think Rice would have tolerated playing with Garcia if it had been 10 years earlier?

Garcia had a reputation for drinking/partying during the season, if you ask some of the locals. He didn't just drink to a .237 BAC and drive once and happen to get caught the one and only time he did it. He started drinking heavily after his girlfriend broke up with him, per his father.
No, the revisionist historians are the ones who vilify Terrell Owens.