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Manny vs Mayweather ??

Mayweather has amazing speed and skills ..but damn he is a boring fighter, I wouldnt pay to watch him fight anyone except Mosely or Manny, other than that boxing fans know Mayweather will never slug it out with Manny and he will throw pitty pat punches the entire fight and try to win on points...Manny is an exciting fighter and Mayweather is a fast and boring fighter, lets see it happen and hopefully Manny takes the fight and forces Mayweather to fight for a change
^^Doubt Mayweather would change for the fans. He's not a crowd-pleasing fighter which is why people tune in to see him lose and why his fk the fans attitude suits him so well. He makes money off of fans' dislike for him. Boxing purists appreciate the talent he has, but as far as being on the same stage as Manny, he will not be the crowd favorite nor will he ever be.

Early odds have Pacquiao as a 8/5 favorite over Mayweather, but I wouldn't agree on those odds. The Cotto fight seem to have him overvalued in terms of betting. Mayweather should be a 3/2 favorite if anything.

Mayweather's got the slight speed advantage and a definite advantage in defense. Stamina you could probably toss up. The punching power advantage you could give to Manny. As big a Manny fan as I am, he'd be in for one tough fight with Floyd. He could get caught in a moment of aggression. Or he could be the unfortunate one caught in chasing Floyd in a half marathon.
Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
^^Doubt Mayweather would change for the fans. He's not a crowd-pleasing fighter which is why people tune in to see him lose and why his fk the fans attitude suits him so well. He makes money off of fans' dislike for him. Boxing purists appreciate the talent he has, but as far as being on the same stage as Manny, he will not be the crowd favorite nor will he ever be.

Early odds have Pacquiao as a 8/5 favorite over Mayweather, but I wouldn't agree on those odds. The Cotto fight seem to have him overvalued in terms of betting. Mayweather should be a 3/2 favorite if anything.

Mayweather's got the slight speed advantage and a definite advantage in defense. Stamina you could probably toss up. The punching power advantage you could give to Manny. As big a Manny fan as I am, he'd be in for one tough fight with Floyd. He could get caught in a moment of aggression. Or he could be the unfortunate one caught in chasing Floyd in a half marathon.

To add on on to your post....

What I see is two VERY focused stubborn fighters.

PBF never loses his cool and seems to have his plan in place just by feeling out the opponent in the first round. That may make his fights boring to some but I can dig it. Just too calculated its crazy! I do wonder how he will react when Manny does touch that "pretty" face lol. Just a professional on so many levels.

Manny on the other hand forces opponents to question themselves. He does not seem to ever have a "plan", other than doing what the f**k you don't want him to do. That thing he does when plants his right foot and batters your face is so predictable but for some reason opponents don't respect it. Cotto did get some easy counter punches in but they had no effect.

I put my money on Cotto based on the so called size factor. Boy was I wrong and is it just me or is Mannys chin gettin better?
If you see Manny's post fight interview with Mayne, he does conclude that although he got hit, it was just a mind game for Manny to mess with Cotto to downgrade his supposed strength advantage. That's why you seen Manny's patented glove tap so many times, and also encouraged Cotto to hit him in the body. To Cotto's credit though, Manny did suffer a broken right ear drum. Not sure how long that takes to recover from.

If he can take Cotto's best, then I'm pretty sure he can take Mayweather's best. The only thing is, although Manny's footwork over the years has greatly improved, comments have gone from "his footwork leaves him in awkward situations and off balance" to "his footwork allows him to throw punches and get in on angles that normal fighters wouldn't have access to."

I'll say this: Manny's unusual footwork does get him in useful positions to throw punches from weird angles, but the fact remains the same, Mayweather's lightning speed can catch him in those weird angles and put him down IMO, not so much from the strength of the punch, but from not being so much in balance.
Mayweather calls Pacquiao out, Arum says silence is golden

L.A. Times

Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been quiet for weeks as Manny Pacquiao prepared for, then delivered, a stirring performance in his 12th-round TKO of Miguel Cotto Saturday night in Las Vegas.

On Monday, Mayweather (40-0) released a statement through his publicist expressing concern that pound-for-pound and world welterweight champion Pacquiao hasn't been more aggressive in pushing for a showdown that could be the most lucrative event in the sport's history.

The release said Mayweather listened to several comments made by Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, and trainer, Freddie Roach, but "still has yet to hear Manny Pacquiao himself say he wants to fight him."

Pacquiao, after the Cotto victory, said he does the fighting and lets Arum select who he'll fight. He has also expressed doubt Mayweather wants to fight him.

"Manny Pacquiao is the fighter and every time someone asks him if he wants to fight me, he says it is up to my promoter ... ," Mayweather said in the statement. "I have yet to hear him actually say, 'Yes, I want to fight Mayweather.' We are the fighters and if one fighter is talking about fighting another fighter, then they should just come out and say it. Manny Pacquiao doesn't say anything directly about fighting me because he might just know it's not a fight he can win."

That qualifies as calling Pacquiao out.

Defensive specialist Mayweather criticized Pacquiao for saying "Money" only cares about cash and not producing entertaining fights.

"Why is he talking about what I won't do instead of what he wants to do?" Mayweather asked in the statement. "Plain and simple, it's because he knows he can't beat me under any circumstances.

"Less than an hour after his fight, ... the talk turns to me. Their whole promotion was just a Mayweather sweepstakes. ... The world is much more intrigued by the thought of someone fighting me who can beat me. ... Manny Pacquiao's people have done a good job of creating an image of him to be this unbelievable fighter and now the so-called guy to beat me. But like all the rest, he's not the one.

"Tell Manny Pacquiao to be his own man and stop letting everyone, including his loudmouth trainer, talk for him. If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight me, all he has to do is step up to the plate and say it himself."

Pacquiao wasn't immediately available Monday.

His promoter Bob Arum declined to discuss the beginning of negotiations, and said he's urging those around his company to keep quiet publicly.

"The one way this will be upset and not happen if it is negotiated through the newspapers," Arum told The Times Monday. "All I want to say is that my guy [Pacquiao] has said, 'We're here, we're ready to fight Mayweather.' "

So there you go.

Arum added he was deluged Monday by more interest from suitors looking to host the fight, including officials from the new New York Giants/Jets stadium, Yankee Stadium, Citi Field in New York, the Dallas Cowboys' stadium, the City of New Orleans, and Las Vegas authorities pitching the construction of a 30,000-seat outdoor facility.

--Lance Pugmire

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Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
To Cotto's credit though, Manny did suffer a broken right ear drum. Not sure how long that takes to recover from.


I believe this was downgraded to a ruptured ear cartilage, which would make sense.
Originally posted by HaiGuise:
Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
To Cotto's credit though, Manny did suffer a broken right ear drum. Not sure how long that takes to recover from.


I believe this was downgraded to a ruptured ear cartilage, which would make sense.

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[ Edited by phiLthyphiL on Nov 17, 2009 at 1:32 PM ]
Originally posted by kidash:
Mayweather calls Pacquiao out, Arum says silence is golden

L.A. Times

Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been quiet for weeks as Manny Pacquiao prepared for, then delivered, a stirring performance in his 12th-round TKO of Miguel Cotto Saturday night in Las Vegas.

On Monday, Mayweather (40-0) released a statement through his publicist expressing concern that pound-for-pound and world welterweight champion Pacquiao hasn't been more aggressive in pushing for a showdown that could be the most lucrative event in the sport's history.

The release said Mayweather listened to several comments made by Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, and trainer, Freddie Roach, but "still has yet to hear Manny Pacquiao himself say he wants to fight him."

Pacquiao, after the Cotto victory, said he does the fighting and lets Arum select who he'll fight. He has also expressed doubt Mayweather wants to fight him.

"Manny Pacquiao is the fighter and every time someone asks him if he wants to fight me, he says it is up to my promoter ... ," Mayweather said in the statement. "I have yet to hear him actually say, 'Yes, I want to fight Mayweather.' We are the fighters and if one fighter is talking about fighting another fighter, then they should just come out and say it. Manny Pacquiao doesn't say anything directly about fighting me because he might just know it's not a fight he can win."

That qualifies as calling Pacquiao out.

Defensive specialist Mayweather criticized Pacquiao for saying "Money" only cares about cash and not producing entertaining fights.

"Why is he talking about what I won't do instead of what he wants to do?" Mayweather asked in the statement. "Plain and simple, it's because he knows he can't beat me under any circumstances.

"Less than an hour after his fight, ... the talk turns to me. Their whole promotion was just a Mayweather sweepstakes. ... The world is much more intrigued by the thought of someone fighting me who can beat me. ... Manny Pacquiao's people have done a good job of creating an image of him to be this unbelievable fighter and now the so-called guy to beat me. But like all the rest, he's not the one.

"Tell Manny Pacquiao to be his own man and stop letting everyone, including his loudmouth trainer, talk for him. If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight me, all he has to do is step up to the plate and say it himself."

Pacquiao wasn't immediately available Monday.

His promoter Bob Arum declined to discuss the beginning of negotiations, and said he's urging those around his company to keep quiet publicly.

"The one way this will be upset and not happen if it is negotiated through the newspapers," Arum told The Times Monday. "All I want to say is that my guy [Pacquiao] has said, 'We're here, we're ready to fight Mayweather.' "

So there you go.

Arum added he was deluged Monday by more interest from suitors looking to host the fight, including officials from the new New York Giants/Jets stadium, Yankee Stadium, Citi Field in New York, the Dallas Cowboys' stadium, the City of New Orleans, and Las Vegas authorities pitching the construction of a 30,000-seat outdoor facility.

--Lance Pugmire

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really duckweather??? you izzzzz a hater
Mayweather is the ultimate heel, he knows his role to maximize his earning to potential. He's very crafty in and out of the ring. You have you respect the man's hustle.
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Mayweather is faster, Mayweather is the better boxer, Mayweather so on and so on........Okay now fight Manny! and don't say 60-40 just to dodge him! Mayweather is a good fighter no ones just quick enough to prove how Fragile he is! Say Hello to Manny.
I will be pulling for Manny when and if they fight but you have to give PBF credit. Like I have heard him say a million times "40 people had a plan and 40 people lost". He knows now that Manny has a strong jaw and hits like a mack truck. He will be content with winning rounds and dancing around the ring. Look at when he fought Oscar he was losing on all cards for the first half of the fight. But he stuck to the game plan and fought his way back in the fight. He doesn't get frustrated and rarely makes a mistake. He fights like it is a marathon not a sprint. The question becomes will Manny have the smarts to find his spots or will he try to hurt Mayweather and get caught.
MASTER OF DEFENSE

Dude's crazy!
"Manny answers Yes to Mayweather bout


"For the record, Yes.
[ Edited by phiLthyphiL on Nov 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM ]
Originally posted by HaiGuise:

LOL wtf.
Mosley's thoughts on Pac/Mayweather

"Pacquiao made a believer out of me with Cotto, so I wouldn't count Pacquiao out. I think Pacquiao could do a number on Mayweather because Mayweather's chin is not that good. I think that Pacquiao could very well knock out Mayweather too," stated welterweight champion Shane Mosley as shared his thoughts on Manny Pacquiao's dominant win over Miguel Cotto. Mosley, who was in attendance and sitting ringside, admits that he was surprised to see how strong Pacquiao looked at the bigger weight and is now convinced that the Filipino superstar is a full-fledged welterweight"