Good stuff JD.
The thing about Gabbert is still makes these rookie mistakes in his 5th year. I doubt they can be corrected at this points, this is probably just who he is.
There are 446 users in the forums
Week 1 2016 Rams Game coaches film analysis
Sep 14, 2016 at 9:48 AM
- susweel
- Hall of Nepal
- Posts: 122,000
The above videos are auto-populated by an affiliate.
Sep 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM
- 9moon
- Veteran
- Posts: 22,064
Sunshine still makes those mistakes because he is just now feeling the REAL pro football games in him.. I see him as a late bloomer.. the guy just left NCAA too soon and got to a very very bad team.. he's only 26, he's got a lot of time to learn and get his MOJO once more..
Sep 14, 2016 at 9:53 AM
- NCommand
- Hall of Fame
- Posts: 123,365
Spot on analysis JD!
Sep 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM
- NCommand
- Hall of Fame
- Posts: 123,365
Originally posted by susweel:
Good stuff JD.
The thing about Gabbert is still makes these rookie mistakes in his 5th year. I doubt they can be corrected at this points, this is probably just who he is.
As fans, that may end up being a reality and we need to consider this. The good thing is that it's JUST mechanical and not mental (save for the QB PTSD). These are very simple corrections (feet work, plant foot, driving through throws like a golf swing, where the tip of the ball is, etc.). I'm sure we'll all be keeping an eye on this going forward. SPOT LIGHT!
Sep 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM
- sacniner
- Member
- Posts: 31,684
YES! Remove all other threads from NT.
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:00 AM
- SofaKing
- Veteran
- Posts: 27,442
Great stuff jonnydel!
Most excited about the play of the lines. We can be competitive in every game if we're solid in the trenches.
Excited about O'Neil's defense moving forward. It's just one game and offenses will adjust, but he's got some cool ideas using a deep rotation and varied play-calling to put players in a position to succeed.
Gabbert is extremely frustrating to watch, because he looks like the prototype QB. But man, his accuracy issues are dumbfounding. Does he have "it"? I don't know, but I'm inclined to say no. He's still a very young player by QB standards and is in an offense that best suits his skills. So he has a chance, and I'll give him time to develop. But some of his miscues are truly inexcusable.
Most excited about the play of the lines. We can be competitive in every game if we're solid in the trenches.
Excited about O'Neil's defense moving forward. It's just one game and offenses will adjust, but he's got some cool ideas using a deep rotation and varied play-calling to put players in a position to succeed.
Gabbert is extremely frustrating to watch, because he looks like the prototype QB. But man, his accuracy issues are dumbfounding. Does he have "it"? I don't know, but I'm inclined to say no. He's still a very young player by QB standards and is in an offense that best suits his skills. So he has a chance, and I'll give him time to develop. But some of his miscues are truly inexcusable.
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:01 AM
- cortana49
- Veteran
- Posts: 4,068
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:01 AM
- cortana49
- Veteran
- Posts: 4,068
Originally posted by sacniner:
YES! Remove all other threads from NT.
THIS!
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:03 AM
- susweel
- Hall of Nepal
- Posts: 122,000
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by susweel:
Good stuff JD.
The thing about Gabbert is still makes these rookie mistakes in his 5th year. I doubt they can be corrected at this points, this is probably just who he is.
As fans, that may end up being a reality and we need to consider this. The good thing is that it's JUST mechanical and not mental (save for the QB PTSD). These are very simple corrections (feet work, plant foot, driving through throws like a golf swing, where the tip of the ball is, etc.). I'm sure we'll all be keeping an eye on this going forward. SPOT LIGHT!
He may do all the correct things in practice but when the game starts at real speed he goes back to these habits. Its like he plays too fast and is anticipating pressure that is not there, hopefully they can get this corrected.
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:06 AM
- jonnydel
- Veteran
- Posts: 9,410
I wanted to show how we had 3 defensive breakdowns in the first drive of the game. The thing here is that is highlights the coverage and what we're doing more, IMO. The good thing was, LA never capitalized on it and we started communicating much better later in the game and the breakdowns stopped. Probably first game jitters.
14:17 1st QTR

Here, we're going to play a cover-3 zone. On this play, we're going to blitz the "TED" backer in the middle and drop an OLB into coverage. We're in a "nickel" set with Robinson in on the outside corner and Ward playing the slot. What I want to highlight is how the coverage will shift depending on the release of the outside receiver. If it's an outside vertical release the safety, Reid, should drop into a hook/curl zone and it will be a cover-3 "buzz" (for Backer) the name call of the cover 3 will indicate who is covering the flat on the safety side("buzz" for backer, "sky" for safety, "cloud" for corner). If it's an inside release you should see the LB - Carradine, cover the hook/curl with Reid taking the flat for a "sky" coverage. It's why you see Reid behind and outside Carradine, it's for angle help for the aforementioned reads.

On the snap, there's an outside vertical release from the WR as the Rams are running a curl/flat concept to that side and a slant/flat concept to the opposite side. Reid(I'm pretty sure it's Reid, could be Carradine if they play it opposite as I've explained it, but from what I know, it's more likely Reid). This causes us to have 2 defenders playing the flat and no one guarding the hook/curl area.

Lucky for us, Keenum never recognizes the busted coverage or the win on the slant/flat on the opposite side of the field and throws to one of the two guys covered on the play and never see's the other two guys open. Yay for us :)
14:17 1st QTR

Here, we're going to play a cover-3 zone. On this play, we're going to blitz the "TED" backer in the middle and drop an OLB into coverage. We're in a "nickel" set with Robinson in on the outside corner and Ward playing the slot. What I want to highlight is how the coverage will shift depending on the release of the outside receiver. If it's an outside vertical release the safety, Reid, should drop into a hook/curl zone and it will be a cover-3 "buzz" (for Backer) the name call of the cover 3 will indicate who is covering the flat on the safety side("buzz" for backer, "sky" for safety, "cloud" for corner). If it's an inside release you should see the LB - Carradine, cover the hook/curl with Reid taking the flat for a "sky" coverage. It's why you see Reid behind and outside Carradine, it's for angle help for the aforementioned reads.

On the snap, there's an outside vertical release from the WR as the Rams are running a curl/flat concept to that side and a slant/flat concept to the opposite side. Reid(I'm pretty sure it's Reid, could be Carradine if they play it opposite as I've explained it, but from what I know, it's more likely Reid). This causes us to have 2 defenders playing the flat and no one guarding the hook/curl area.

Lucky for us, Keenum never recognizes the busted coverage or the win on the slant/flat on the opposite side of the field and throws to one of the two guys covered on the play and never see's the other two guys open. Yay for us :)
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:10 AM
- SofaKing
- Veteran
- Posts: 27,442
Originally posted by susweel:
He may do all the correct things in practice but when the game starts at real speed he goes back to these habits. Its like he plays too fast and is anticipating pressure that is not there, hopefully they can get this corrected.
Exactly. He gets too antsy in the pocket and feels ghost pressure. He rushes himself too often. He showed these tendencies in college too, and it's only magnified in the NFL.
He just needs to settle down for a split second longer, relax, and make the throw. Because like jonnydel pointed out, he makes the correct reads and moves through his progressions quickly most of the time.
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:10 AM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,298
A lot has to go right to win 28-0 so there's a lot of good to discuss. But I'll point out the good and bad.
After the game, I thought the stars were the offensive line. And while they may still be the most improved group, it was the defensive front 7 and Jim O'Neil that performed at a star level on Monday. The blitz packages being dialed up and the changeups of bringing pressure, then showing pressure but backing off was confusing the Rams OL and Keenum all night. There were a handful of dropbacks where coverages were blown, but Keenum was not good enough to exploit them.
Something was tipping off the Rams run plays because the 49ers blitzed right into the point of attack and blew plays up or clogged lanes to make Gurly hesitate at the line of scrimmage. When in base 3-4, two DL would cover the C and the G to force runs to clog up the middle. This is a trait of the Bears 46 defense, which JoN has roots in.Coverage wise, I can tell JoN is trying to implement a pattern match scheme. It's going to be a process with players I consider new to the concepts such as Tartt, Ray Ray, Robinson. 49ers came with lots of underneath zone looks while the outside CBs pattern matched to man up.
While we saw some of the inaccurate throws from Gabbert, it was the missed reads that still haunt him. During the offseason, I looked at most of Gabbert's 3rd down dropbacks and what I saw did not jive with the notion that he checks down too fast. Last season, he wasn't checking down because he didn't let route concepts develop, he checks down because he isn't confident enough to let it rip into tight windows. So after not pulling the trigger on a throw downfield, he checks down. This is different than if he didn't allow the route combination to develop and just quickly threw the checkdown. I felt Gabbert missed some reads and this is what caused a couple of his scrambles and incompletions. The other scrambles were justified with WRs being blanketed downfield. This could be an ongoing problem. Gabbert should continue to get the green light to scramble because sometimes that is the only option.
The OL was able to stalemate with the Rams DL on most occasions and that's a win considering what we saw last season. Beadles lost most of his battles 1v1 with Donald, but Kilgore was very helpful when needed providing a well timed shove to help Beadles. Tiller still has some trouble getting to second level blocks, but on pass pro he did better job on Donald than Beadles did. Brown had a very good game with Staley being the star of the night amungst the five as he kept Quinn quiet. What else is new?
I'll show some 3rd downs where the 49ers defense was able to get off the field, and the missed reads by Gabbert. Various other plays I found interesting or important towards the outcome of the game. So nice to look at a 49er win that came in dominating fashion.
After the game, I thought the stars were the offensive line. And while they may still be the most improved group, it was the defensive front 7 and Jim O'Neil that performed at a star level on Monday. The blitz packages being dialed up and the changeups of bringing pressure, then showing pressure but backing off was confusing the Rams OL and Keenum all night. There were a handful of dropbacks where coverages were blown, but Keenum was not good enough to exploit them.
Something was tipping off the Rams run plays because the 49ers blitzed right into the point of attack and blew plays up or clogged lanes to make Gurly hesitate at the line of scrimmage. When in base 3-4, two DL would cover the C and the G to force runs to clog up the middle. This is a trait of the Bears 46 defense, which JoN has roots in.Coverage wise, I can tell JoN is trying to implement a pattern match scheme. It's going to be a process with players I consider new to the concepts such as Tartt, Ray Ray, Robinson. 49ers came with lots of underneath zone looks while the outside CBs pattern matched to man up.
While we saw some of the inaccurate throws from Gabbert, it was the missed reads that still haunt him. During the offseason, I looked at most of Gabbert's 3rd down dropbacks and what I saw did not jive with the notion that he checks down too fast. Last season, he wasn't checking down because he didn't let route concepts develop, he checks down because he isn't confident enough to let it rip into tight windows. So after not pulling the trigger on a throw downfield, he checks down. This is different than if he didn't allow the route combination to develop and just quickly threw the checkdown. I felt Gabbert missed some reads and this is what caused a couple of his scrambles and incompletions. The other scrambles were justified with WRs being blanketed downfield. This could be an ongoing problem. Gabbert should continue to get the green light to scramble because sometimes that is the only option.
The OL was able to stalemate with the Rams DL on most occasions and that's a win considering what we saw last season. Beadles lost most of his battles 1v1 with Donald, but Kilgore was very helpful when needed providing a well timed shove to help Beadles. Tiller still has some trouble getting to second level blocks, but on pass pro he did better job on Donald than Beadles did. Brown had a very good game with Staley being the star of the night amungst the five as he kept Quinn quiet. What else is new?
I'll show some 3rd downs where the 49ers defense was able to get off the field, and the missed reads by Gabbert. Various other plays I found interesting or important towards the outcome of the game. So nice to look at a 49er win that came in dominating fashion.
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:11 AM
- mjonags32
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,207
Sep 14, 2016 at 10:14 AM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,298
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I wanted to show how we had 3 defensive breakdowns in the first drive of the game. The thing here is that is highlights the coverage and what we're doing more, IMO. The good thing was, LA never capitalized on it and we started communicating much better later in the game and the breakdowns stopped. Probably first game jitters.
14:17 1st QTR
Here, we're going to play a cover-3 zone. On this play, we're going to blitz the "TED" backer in the middle and drop an OLB into coverage. We're in a "nickel" set with Robinson in on the outside corner and Ward playing the slot. What I want to highlight is how the coverage will shift depending on the release of the outside receiver. If it's an outside vertical release the safety, Reid, should drop into a hook/curl zone and it will be a cover-3 "buzz" (for Backer) the name call of the cover 3 will indicate who is covering the flat on the safety side("buzz" for backer, "sky" for safety, "cloud" for corner). If it's an inside release you should see the LB - Carradine, cover the hook/curl with Reid taking the flat for a "sky" coverage. It's why you see Reid behind and outside Carradine, it's for angle help for the aforementioned reads.
Good example. I have a folder called "badPatternMatching" and this play is in there. On the very next play there is another busted coverage. Pretty sure you got that lined up.
edit: I think it's the new guys that are screwing up. The play above is Tank. The next play in this drive it's Ray Ray.
[ Edited by thl408 on Sep 14, 2016 at 10:16 AM ]