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Week 1 2016 Rams Game coaches film analysis

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  • susweel
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by susweel:
He may do all the correct things in practice but when the game starts at real speed he goes back to these habits. Its like he plays too fast and is anticipating pressure that is not there, hopefully they can get this corrected.

Exactly. He gets too antsy in the pocket and feels ghost pressure. He rushes himself too often. He showed these tendencies in college too, and it's only magnified in the NFL.

He just needs to settle down for a split second longer, relax, and make the throw. Because like jonnydel pointed out, he makes the correct reads and moves through his progressions quickly most of the time.

I never really seen him play in college but his numbers were not that impressive. I think he was drafted high based on his size, arm and ability to be coached up. A player like him should have sat his first year but top picks are not really allowed that anymore. Either way he needs to figure this out quickly because chip is not gonna put up with this basic QB error stuff for that long. He will try kap and if kap doesn't do it he will even try Ponder.
On the same defensive series and the one Thl was talking about:



Here it looks like we're playing straight man-coverage. In the NFL though, nothing is just ever, "straight" there are always complexities involved. There's a busted coverage between Bow and Ray Ray(Ray's fault). If there's an outside release from the TE, then Ray Ray covers the TE, anything inside or vertical, Bow takes the TE. This keeps from allowing pick plays to happen like what will happen at the bottom of the screen. At the bottom, Ward has to jam the receiver to keep from allowing a pick play to happen. Think of Browner jamming that Seahawks receiver in the SB(I'll show that on the next snap).


You see the inside release from the TE - this means it's Bow's guy. On the bottom, Ward doesn't jam the receiver, so he's going to give up too much ground and allow for Brock to get picked.


He's Brandon Browner against the exact same passing play in the SB. He was the one who made the play happen more than Butler, IMO, and Bellichick's as well :) The jam allows Butler to be free on the play.


You see both Ray Ray and Bow covering the TE and no one covering the back out of the backfield(Black). On the bottom, you see how the Rams pull the rub/pick play and Brock tries to drive on it, but it's too far downfield. If Ward jams his guy sooner, the WR has to go over-the top or run it so shallow that it'd be minimal gain.


You see the pick play works. Thankfully Keenum throws this pass instead of the RB WIDE open.


You see Bow straightening out the youngster, "if that TE releases in, you take the back outside".
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Oh and that play I just showed, here's Bethea calling out the pick play before it happened, so Ward and Brock should've seen it coming.



You see him motioning his arms in a crossing way to indicated, "crossing play" he was turning back and forth motioning this to everyone to be alert for it.
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Rams QB dumber than Blaine. lol
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
On the same defensive series and the one Thl was talking about:

Here it looks like we're playing straight man-coverage. In the NFL though, nothing is just ever, "straight" there are always complexities involved. There's a busted coverage between Bow and Ray Ray(Ray's fault). If there's an outside release from the TE, then Ray Ray covers the TE, anything inside or vertical, Bow takes the TE. This keeps from allowing pick plays to happen like what will happen at the bottom of the screen. At the bottom, Ward has to jam the receiver to keep from allowing a pick play to happen. Think of Browner jamming that Seahawks receiver in the SB(I'll show that on the next snap).


You see the inside release from the TE - this means it's Bow's guy. On the bottom, Ward doesn't jam the receiver, so he's going to give up too much ground and allow for Brock to get picked.


He's Brandon Browner against the exact same passing play in the SB. He was the one who made the play happen more than Butler, IMO, and Bellichick's as well :) The jam allows Butler to be free on the play.


You see both Ray Ray and Bow covering the TE and no one covering the back out of the backfield(Black). On the bottom, you see how the Rams pull the rub/pick play and Brock tries to drive on it, but it's too far downfield. If Ward jams his guy sooner, the WR has to go over-the top or run it so shallow that it'd be minimal gain.


You see the pick play works. Thankfully Keenum throws this pass instead of the RB WIDE open.


You see Bow straightening out the youngster, "if that TE releases in, you take the back outside".

I was surprised by the amount of pattern matching being asked out of the OLBs and CBs. I saw a lot of "normal" Cover1 when watching his CLE defense. Maybe he wanted to simplify things for those CLE players after they complained about how their defensive run scheme was difficult. JoN comes to SF, sees that Reid/Bethea/Bow/Brooks/Brock/Ward are well versed in pattern match schemes from the Fangio days and goes for the pattern match installation. I hope this is the case because if elaborate offenses are going to run option routes and such that adjust post snap, then pattern matching can counter that with their own post snap adjustments. Love that snapshot of BOw talking to RayRay. The blown coverage didn't bite them, but it's now on film for the next opponent to exploit if it isn't fixed.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by susweel:
Good stuff JD.

The thing about Gabbert is still makes these rookie mistakes in his 5th year. I doubt they can be corrected at this points, this is probably just who he is.

As fans, that may end up being a reality and we need to consider this. The good thing is that it's JUST mechanical and not mental (save for the QB PTSD). These are very simple corrections (feet work, plant foot, driving through throws like a golf swing, where the tip of the ball is, etc.). I'm sure we'll all be keeping an eye on this going forward. SPOT LIGHT!

He may do all the correct things in practice but when the game starts at real speed he goes back to these habits. Its like he plays too fast and is anticipating pressure that is not there, hopefully they can get this corrected.

100% agree!
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Originally posted by SoCold:
Rams QB dumber than Blaine. lol

Worst two starters in the league, it was like watching the special olympics of QB play.
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sounds like some people think we actually lost the game or would be happy if we did. pre game the niners are the worst team in the nfl history. we have a nice win and of course the logic is it is only because the rams are worse than we are. blaine did alot of good stuff to build upon according to chip and his opinion is the only thing that matters, no offense to the back seat drivers
Originally posted by thl408:
A lot has to go right to win 28-0 so there's a lot of good to discuss. But I'll point out the good and bad.

After the game, I thought the stars were the offensive line. And while they may still be the most improved group, it was the defensive front 7 and Jim O'Neil that performed at a star level on Monday. The blitz packages being dialed up and the changeups of bringing pressure, then showing pressure but backing off was confusing the Rams OL and Keenum all night. There were a handful of dropbacks where coverages were blown, but Keenum was not good enough to exploit them.

Something was tipping off the Rams run plays because the 49ers blitzed right into the point of attack and blew plays up or clogged lanes to make Gurly hesitate at the line of scrimmage. When in base 3-4, two DL would cover the C and the G to force runs to clog up the middle. This is a trait of the Bears 46 defense, which JoN has roots in.Coverage wise, I can tell JoN is trying to implement a pattern match scheme. It's going to be a process with players I consider new to the concepts such as Tartt, Ray Ray, Robinson. 49ers came with lots of underneath zone looks while the outside CBs pattern matched to man up.

While we saw some of the inaccurate throws from Gabbert, it was the missed reads that still haunt him. During the offseason, I looked at most of Gabbert's 3rd down dropbacks and what I saw did not jive with the notion that he checks down too fast. Last season, he wasn't checking down because he didn't let route concepts develop, he checks down because he isn't confident enough to let it rip into tight windows. So after not pulling the trigger on a throw downfield, he checks down. This is different than if he didn't allow the route combination to develop and just quickly threw the checkdown. I felt Gabbert missed some reads and this is what caused a couple of his scrambles and incompletions. The other scrambles were justified with WRs being blanketed downfield. This could be an ongoing problem. Gabbert should continue to get the green light to scramble because sometimes that is the only option.

The OL was able to stalemate with the Rams DL on most occasions and that's a win considering what we saw last season. Beadles lost most of his battles 1v1 with Donald, but Kilgore was very helpful when needed providing a well timed shove to help Beadles. Tiller still has some trouble getting to second level blocks, but on pass pro he did better job on Donald than Beadles did. Brown had a very good game with Staley being the star of the night amungst the five as he kept Quinn quiet. What else is new?

I'll show some 3rd downs where the 49ers defense was able to get off the field, and the missed reads by Gabbert. Various other plays I found interesting or important towards the outcome of the game. So nice to look at a 49er win that came in dominating fashion.

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Originally posted by jonnydel:
On the same defensive series and the one Thl was talking about:



Here it looks like we're playing straight man-coverage. In the NFL though, nothing is just ever, "straight" there are always complexities involved. There's a busted coverage between Bow and Ray Ray(Ray's fault). If there's an outside release from the TE, then Ray Ray covers the TE, anything inside or vertical, Bow takes the TE. This keeps from allowing pick plays to happen like what will happen at the bottom of the screen. At the bottom, Ward has to jam the receiver to keep from allowing a pick play to happen. Think of Browner jamming that Seahawks receiver in the SB(I'll show that on the next snap).


(snipped)

So one of the things that can confuse defenders trying to pattern match is late pre snap motion. Here, the RB shifts from the left of the QB to the right. It's very subtle but if defenders aren't on point to sort things out, it causes confusion and blow coverages. This is the entire sequence. When the RB moves from Keenum's left to Keenums right, it changes the number designation. The RB is now the weakside #2 and Ray Ray is now responsible for the first route that breaks outside. RayRay fails to recognize that.

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Originally posted by cciowa:
sounds like some people think we actually lost the game or would be happy if we did. pre game the niners are the worst team in the nfl history. we have a nice win and of course the logic is it is only because the rams are worse than we are. blaine did alot of good stuff to build upon according to chip and his opinion is the only thing that matters, no offense to the back seat drivers

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people can discuss the game without thinking we lost it.
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by cciowa:
sounds like some people think we actually lost the game or would be happy if we did. pre game the niners are the worst team in the nfl history. we have a nice win and of course the logic is it is only because the rams are worse than we are. blaine did alot of good stuff to build upon according to chip and his opinion is the only thing that matters, no offense to the back seat drivers

R-E-L-A-X cc

people can discuss the game without thinking we lost it.
i saw and read how much this team was trashed in the off season and the pure venom that was directed at our team. especially after ck did the knee thing from many quarters including many many people here on the zone. I understand people who are never happy and always have to nitpick but to make excuses for the rams poor play without giving our team any credit whatsoever for the win and the way we made the rams play and react is silly. there is also a bunch of people who are acting like the problems blaine had and the team had on monday will NEVER change. i have total faith that blaine and the coaches are working on the things they did not do well monday
Blaine seems like a headcase and I really hope he can snap out of it. We've seen Kap under pressure--magical. Maybe he just needs to get comfortable with the system. I'll let him do that before I criticize him too much.
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