49ers signed Glenn Dorsey | Page 14

9moon · 2013-02-16T10:04:01-08:00

I'm not sure how much money he'll be asking for, but if it's reasonable, I think that he could be another gem.. He's yet to become the player they projected him to be, but he's still got lots of years ahead of him.. Maybe a change of location would feed him well..

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:17 PM

#196

Travisty13
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Originally posted by GorefullBore:
I hope he has put on at least a little weight. I took a quick look at all the NT's in the league.There are some who weigh in at 290 or less, but they are over 6-2 tall. The shorter ones meanwhile weigh at lesat in the 310 range. I really couldn't find any that were both short and light. Undersized NT's can be successful if they utilize leverage and quickness. I hope Dorsey can take advantage of those abilities and be a productive player.

Ian Williams, a guy we just gave an extension to as a NT, is 6'1/305. Very similar to Dorsey's size. That's probably the type of NT the Niners prefer.

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:21 PM

#197

pdizo916
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llol, i wanted this guy in 2008. Now we get him.

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:27 PM

#198

xtm059
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Nice to see us get some relief for the defense

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM

#199

LasVegasWally
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Rotation in the making.

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM

#200

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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by 9erred:
What most webzoners fail to realize is that while the Niners play a base 3-4 defense on 1st down, or running downs, they play a hybrid or basically a 4-3 on 70% of downs. Sopoaga only played 30% of the snaps last year. When the niners go into nickel or dime defense, which is the majority of the time. The Niners lined up Justin Smith and McDonald at the 3 technique and Aldon smith and Ahmad brooks become DE's. Dorsey fits great into the scheme, if McDonald or Smith need a rest he can rotate in.

Great Post!

1st Down: RayMac - Williams - Smith
2nd/3rd Down: A.Smith - RayMac/Smith - Dorsey - RayMac/Smith

Don't forget Brooks.

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM

#201

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by 9erred:
What most webzoners fail to realize is that while the Niners play a base 3-4 defense on 1st down, or running downs, they play a hybrid or basically a 4-3 on 70% of downs. Sopoaga only played 30% of the snaps last year. When the niners go into nickel or dime defense, which is the majority of the time. The Niners lined up Justin Smith and McDonald at the 3 technique and Aldon smith and Ahmad brooks become DE's. Dorsey fits great into the scheme, if McDonald or Smith need a rest he can rotate in.

Great Post!

1st Down: RayMac - Williams - Smith
2nd/3rd Down: A.Smith - RayMac/Smith - Dorsey - RayMac/Smith

Don't forget Brooks.

How does he line up in our 3rd down package? I do see him with his hand in the ground.

It was Smith, Smith, Brooks, and RayMac (iirc). I wonder if that would continue. Maybe Dorsey would replace RayMac in that situation

[ Edited by NinerBuff on Mar 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM ]

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM

#202

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OMG YOU GUYS WE SIGNED KEN DORSEY??!?

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:45 PM

#203

NCommand
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
How does he line up in our 3rd down package? I do see him with his hand in the ground.

It was Smith, Smith, Brooks, and RayMac (iirc). I wonder if that would continue. Maybe Dorsey would replace RayMac in that situation

Think it would be more like this:

1st & 2nd Down: (Brooks) RayMac - Williams - J.Smith (A.Smith)
3rd Down: A.Brooks - Dorsey - J.Smith - A.Smith

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM

#204

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
How does he line up in our 3rd down package? I do see him with his hand in the ground.

It was Smith, Smith, Brooks, and RayMac (iirc). I wonder if that would continue. Maybe Dorsey would replace RayMac in that situation

Think it would be more like this:

1st & 2nd Down: (Brooks) RayMac - Williams - J.Smith (A.Smith)
3rd Down: A.Brooks - Dorsey - J.Smith - A.Smith

Sounds about right, except you it's probably more like:

1st & 2nd and short - RayMac, Williams, Smith
2nd and long & 3rd - Brooks - Dorsey - Smith - Smith

That significantly reduces RayMac's roll. That'll be an interesting development. I'm sure a rookie or two will also figure into this rotation.

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:50 PM

#205

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So what's the #'s on this contract?

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

#206

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
How does he line up in our 3rd down package? I do see him with his hand in the ground.

It was Smith, Smith, Brooks, and RayMac (iirc). I wonder if that would continue. Maybe Dorsey would replace RayMac in that situation

Think it would be more like this:

1st & 2nd Down: (Brooks) RayMac - Williams - J.Smith (A.Smith)
3rd Down: A.Brooks - Dorsey - J.Smith - A.Smith

If Dorsey is going to rotate in with Smith/RayMac, I'd prefer he do so on running downs. I am unimpressed by his pass rushing, and Ray can get off the ball and move. RayMac gets consistent pressure, as does a healthy Cowboy. Get those guys some rest, and turn them loose on passing downs. No need to downgrade our pass rush, so I don't see them sacrificing reps in the Nickle/dime sets, unless we draft an active rookie early (D.Jones???

)

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

#207

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I'm pleased, though I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm excited. He should be an effective piece of the rotation, but doubtful to be a linchpin that'll have a big impact on improving our D.

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM

#208

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Double post: Zone is burning down today

[ Edited by WRATHman44 on Mar 13, 2013 at 3:53 PM ]

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:56 PM

#209

WRATHman44
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Originally posted by Magzarillious:
So what's the #'s on this contract?

Seriously!!! Of course, we must have pillowcase-over-the-head donkey-punched his agent if it is taking this long for the contract to go public!

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:57 PM

#210

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Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Magzarillious:
So what's the #'s on this contract?

Seriously!!! Of course, we must have pillowcase-over-the-head donkey-punched his agent if it is taking this long for the contract to go public!