Alex Smith: The Aftermath (Post SB)

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Why are all the estimates for smith's value in trade so low? Smith could/will walk into a starting gig on over half the teams in the NFL. He has had a statistically very good 1.5 seasons. Why are we talking about one or two mid round draft choices? I would think that his value is quite abit greater -- at least one mid level first rounder. What am I missing? Thanks.

That won't happen. Part of the reason is the perception that the 49ers have to release him, that he's a product of Harbaugh's system and that he's merely a "game-manager."

Realistically, I feel that an early 3rd rounder is quite doable.

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by hipcam52:
If we sent Joe packing in a trade then why would we not trade Alex

I agree but remember that the Niners actually took Joe's wishes into consideration. The team just didn't ship him anywhere but to a AFC team he wanted to play on.

I'll going to guess that the Niners will likely do the same for Smith. That is try to get him on a team that he wants to play on.

I completely agree , I hope it plays out that way and we get a 2ed round pick even if its for next years draft

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
That won't happen. Part of the reason is the perception that the 49ers have to release him, that he's a product of Harbaugh's system and that he's merely a "game-manager."

Realistically, I feel that an early 3rd rounder is quite doable.

I actually think we get a high to mid 2nd. Look at the teams drafting at the top half of the draft. Jacksonville, KC, Philadelphia, Arizona, Jets, and Cleveland (though they don't have a 2nd round pick), all desperately need a start-ready QB. This is a down year for QB's in the draft. And Alex is THE top trade bait. The 49ers arn't gonna just let Alex walk, that won't happen. I bet that the asking price for Alex is gonna be high - a 1st plus other picks - knowing that they probably won't get it. But the chances are good that, as time passes, one of those teams will over do it a little to nab him. I think a 2nd is more than possible, but certainly no lower than a 3rd.

Originally posted by hipcam52:
I completely agree , I hope it plays out that way and we get a 2ed round pick even if its for next years draft

I agree, but with limits. If the 9ers FO have a chance to get a 1st or 2nd for him, no mater what team, I think they'll jump on it.

After listening to york i think were trying to get a first round pick or a high caliber player. we are NOT giving him away! And im not a smith fan. Any other year i would say no way. You might not be great with smith but you can keep your job as a head coach. Look for a rookie coach to pay up!

TRADE TRADE TRADE
Drafted, Paid and Played and in resent years showed he has promise and can still be a legit QB in the NFL. The great thing about this situation is... some teams out there will want him due to the off season luck warm QB pool and NO ONE to turn too... Some teams will have a much better chance of winning Smith dealing with trade terms with The Niners then Smith calling his own shots when he walks. Smith is a very intelligent man... he will put himself in a situation to win... Thats with coaches, starting role and growth. So personally a trade would be an ideal way add depth, gain draft picks or dare I say find a starter... Plus the QB position is the hardest spot to fill, due to the importance of that position. Smith has way to much value to just let him walk.
TRADE TRADE TRADE

Red and Gold

TRADE TRADE TRADE
Drafted, Paid and Played and in resent years showed he has promise and can still be a legit QB in the NFL. The great thing about this situation is... some teams out there will want him due to the off season luck warm QB pool and NO ONE to turn too... Some teams will have a much better chance of winning Smith dealing with trade terms with The Niners then Smith calling his own shots when he walks. Smith is a very intelligent man... he will put himself in a situation to win... Thats with coaches, starting role and growth. So personally a trade would be an ideal way add depth, gain draft picks or dare I say find a starter... Plus the QB position is the hardest spot to fill, due to the importance of that position. Smith has way to much value to just let him walk.
TRADE TRADE TRADE

Red and Gold

I like Alex and wish him the best of luck on his new team.

But if this franchise can trade joe montana it can trade alex smith.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
That won't happen. Part of the reason is the perception that the 49ers have to release him, that he's a product of Harbaugh's system and that he's merely a "game-manager."

Realistically, I feel that an early 3rd rounder is quite doable.

Really. Well, I'm surprised. I think a lot of teams could use "just a game manager." He isn't inclined to make stupid throws under pressure (aka Sanchez, Romo).

I think he could be just the ticket for a developing team that needs to stay in a few games and not get blown out. If they have a running game to lean on, the upgrade at QB might be worth 2-4 games in the W column, depending. He'll stop the bleeding at least, if not carry them on his shoulders to SB.

I gotta believe that's something a team with cap space will give up some high picks for. Maybe the 9ers throw in a salary subsidy, as a sweetener.

Alex got paid and an opportunity to finally prove he belongs in the NFL. We owe him nothing!

He's worth a second round pick, but with everybody knowing the circumstances that we must release him if he's not traded, we'll get nothing. GM's in this league play hardball, and will not give up something for what will be available for free. You might think that they'd pay when other teams want him too, but history tells us it just doesn't happen. We're going to need that $8M elsewhere on the roster, Alex has been a trooper, and Tom Condin has eight other players on our roster and a good relationship with the team. We'll let Alex find his own best situation and move on. I expect we'll draft a QB in the 3rd or 4th round with skill sets more similar to Kaep's than Tolzin.

Originally posted by kray28:
1, The 49ers forced him out of his starting job.

2. By trading him to a team of their choice, he doesn't necessarily get the best chance to continue his career/earn a starter's level salary.

3. Since they don't want to start him, they should let him go somewhere where he can start...and he will be better able to choose that on his own.

The right thing to do would be to let him go...sometimes looking for every little advantage isn't the gain you think it is. The 49ers' behavior will be noticed by other players and potential free agents. In the long run, the 49ers gain more from treating Alex with dignity than they do from bargaining him off to the highest bidder.

It is absurd that some people keep trotting out this notion that the 49ers should be concerned with how they are perceived "by other players and potentail free agents." Good grief, they alienated probably 3/4 of the fan base re: new stadium based on price, seat allocation, and practically zero consideration given for "loyalty", i.e. longevity as a STH. Oh, and did you notice maybe an STH or few thousand pissed at how SB tickets went down?

And at the player level, perhaps you caught wind of this little QB "thing" the Niners had during the season? For crying out loud, they (thankfully) "broke" what might be the most sacred unwritten rule, that you don't lose your job due to an injury. Outright releasing Smith would be a huge mistake when the 49ers have the upper hand...they will do what benefits the organization--the team--the most...as it should be. If they do release him, it will be because they couldn't work a deal and they don't want to take the cap hit, it will not be because they're sensitive to Smith's "dignity".

Originally posted by DelCed2486:

Originally posted by kray28:
1, The 49ers forced him out of his starting job.

2. By trading him to a team of their choice, he doesn't necessarily get the best chance to continue his career/earn a starter's level salary.

3. Since they don't want to start him, they should let him go somewhere where he can start...and he will be better able to choose that on his own.

The right thing to do would be to let him go...sometimes looking for every little advantage isn't the gain you think it is. The 49ers' behavior will be noticed by other players and potential free agents. In the long run, the 49ers gain more from treating Alex with dignity than they do from bargaining him off to the highest bidder.

It is absurd that some people keep trotting out this notion that the 49ers should be concerned with how they are perceived "by other players and potentail free agents." Good grief, they alienated probably 3/4 of the fan base re: new stadium based on price, seat allocation, and practically zero consideration given for "loyalty", i.e. longevity as a STH. Oh, and did you notice maybe an STH or few thousand pissed at how SB tickets went down?

And at the player level, perhaps you caught wind of this little QB "thing" the Niners had during the season? For crying out loud, they (thankfully) "broke" what might be the most sacred unwritten rule, that you don't lose your job due to an injury. Outright releasing Smith would be a huge mistake when the 49ers have the upper hand...they will do what benefits the organization--the team--the most...as it should be. If they do release him, it will be because they couldn't work a deal and they don't want to take the cap hit, it will not be because they're sensitive to Smith's "dignity".

You can make your points without being condescending and grating. Thanks.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
You can make your points without being condescending and grating. Thanks.

Oh brother, I see worse on here about every 5 minutes.

Originally posted by DelCed2486:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
You can make your points without being condescending and grating. Thanks.

Oh brother, I see worse on here about every 5 minutes.

Well then, never mind. That makes it all ok.


...or you could re-read the rules and consider whether you...as opposed to others... are following them.

Thanks again.