Smith, Tolzien thread. Yet again

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
cc, what are your feelings re: Tolzien as a back up in worst case scenario...ie, Kap gets injured, seriously?

i have always said that if alex was not on the team backing up ck i would be a bit more unglued than usual. the thought of alex not being here, ck getting hurt and the kid going in terrifies me. i know that many people think our head coach can just wave one of my dads magic wands(he was a magician when he was not a tv repairman) and turn anyone into a great quarterback but moving forward I really think we should sign a vet for next year. i know many want to spend a draft pick on a qb but in my opinion with the need for a kicker and depth along the line , possible hole at safety and the need for two good tight ends, i feel we can not waste a pick on a quarterback.

Usually, back-ups are a huge step down from the starter..but because no one has much film on them they're servicable for a couple games...see Troy Smith. I think Tolzien will be fine. The fact that he's a different style of qb than Kaep is also probably to his advantage if he had to come in on the spot.

Also next year will be Tolziens 3rd year in the system and they did keep him over Josh Johnson, they have to like him

Originally posted by susweel:
I'll take my chances playing him twice a year if he ends up in the division but I think we should allow him his release. The way he has handled the demotion I think its the least we can do for him.

Originally posted by susweel:
I'll take my chances playing him twice a year if he ends up in the division but I think we should allow him his release. The way he has handled the demotion I think its the least we can do for him.

Originally posted by cciowa:
all good points but two kids behind ck even before i came to embrace ck with open arms and open legs, i was confident in his second year that he could come in if alex went down and not hurt us. i am sorry guys but i just do not have that same feeling about T

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by susweel:
I'll take my chances playing him twice a year if he ends up in the division but I think we should allow him his release. The way he has handled the demotion I think its the least we can do for him.

I agree...I think if he had created a stir we would not be in the superbowl right now.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by susweel:
I'll take my chances playing him twice a year if he ends up in the division but I think we should allow him his release. The way he has handled the demotion I think its the least we can do for him.

I agree...I think if he had created a stir we would not be in the superbowl right now.

Originally posted by cciowa:
i like alex alot and will root for him to do well but come on, we should not be scared of the cards just cuz alex may be their quarterback. sus is right. jacobs was a prick and deserved everything he got or did not get. alex should and will be treated much different

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by AmpLee:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by AmpLee:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by susweel:
Smith expected to request release

http://m.nbcsports.com/rotoworld-main-headlines/sport/rotoworld-hl-nfl?article=1235326

Important part of that: "The 49ers don't have to oblige, of course. Smith has trade value, and the 49ers won't honor his request if it doesn't help their team. Getting back a draft pick would."

Sounds like a lot of conjecture too.

As much respect I have for Alex and what he endured here, we have to do what's best for our team and get picks for him. He might not like it, but he's only got one year left on his deal.

I disagree I think they should grant him his release and let him chose his team.

Yeah, let's take the chance of making our division even harder by allowing the Cards the opportunity to have a good QB on their roster. Also, let's still pay part of his salary and relinquish the possibility of mulitiple high draft picks. No thanks. This is a business, and I've always supported Alex, but at the end of the day, we have to do what's best for us. Also, that doesn't mean we can't work with Alex and try to seek offers from teams he approves.

I'll take my chances playing him twice a year if he ends up in the division but I think we should allow him his release. The way he has handled the demotion I think its the least we can do for him.

Originally posted by verb1der:
I would feel really bad for Alex if he went to a division rival. That means Kaep gets to beat him twice a year for many years to come. That's like living next door to your ex girlfriend who dumped you for a hotter guy.

Originally posted by verb1der:
I would feel really bad for Alex if he went to a division rival. That means Kaep gets to beat him twice a year for many years to come. That's like living next door to your ex girlfriend who dumped you for a hotter guy.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by verb1der:
I would feel really bad for Alex if he went to a division rival. That means Kaep gets to beat him twice a year for many years to come. That's like living next door to your ex girlfriend who dumped you for a hotter guy.

Alex wouldn't play against Colin..he'd play against our defense.

Originally posted by 49ersking:

The 49ers have paid Alex quite a bit of money for the last 8 years. He did not always live upto to the standards or the pay grade. He seems like a nice human being, and an avg QB. With a great coach, the right supporting cast and defense, he can be quite productive for the team.

I think Alex benefitted more from the 49ers than the other way around. Simply put, the 49ers should not release him outright, and do their best to get a trade...even if it means sending him to AZ. We have smart people in the front office, so no worries.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Usually, back-ups are a huge step down from the starter..but because no one has much film on them they're servicable for a couple games...see Troy Smith. I think Tolzien will be fine. The fact that he's a different style of qb than Kaep is also probably to his advantage if he had to come in on the spot.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by verb1der:

I would feel really bad for Alex if he went to a division rival. That means Kaep gets to beat him twice a year for many years to come. That's like living next door to your ex girlfriend who dumped you for a hotter guy.

Alex wouldn't play against Colin..he'd play against our defense.