Does Alex Smith have any Trade Value???

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
He should be able to yield a 2nd Round pick.

I would LOVE it if the Niners could get a 2nd rd pick from KC. That would be ideal and would give the Niners:

1 First
2 Seconds
2 Thirds
1 4th
2 Fifths
2 6ths
2 7ths

With the right trades they can set this team up for a long time. I think they will focus on the Defensive side of the ball and get a Pass Rushing OLB, 2 DL, and 2 DBs

My question is when do you trade Alex Smith?

Off season. The trade deadline has passed and the Niners need Smith anyway in case Kaep gets hurt. KC and Arizona would be the two most logical teams for Alex but not sure the Niners would deal with division opponent.

Originally posted by taney71:
Am I the only one thinking teams will not want to trade for him knowing that the 9ers have to take a cap hit to keep him on the roster? What are people's thinking on that?

If the 49ers want to trade him they will have to pick up his full contract and they have till April 1st to do that.

Originally posted by taney71:
Am I the only one thinking teams will not want to trade for him knowing that the 9ers have to take a cap hit to keep him on the roster? What are people's thinking on that?

I also don't think Smith wants the 49ers to trade him either. He'll want to be released in order to pick and choose among potential teams. He might even get better pay as a free agent.

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
He should be able to yield a 2nd Round pick.

I would LOVE it if the Niners could get a 2nd rd pick from KC. That would be ideal and would give the Niners:

1 First
2 Seconds
2 Thirds
1 4th
2 Fifths
2 6ths
2 7ths

With the right trades they can set this team up for a long time. I think they will focus on the Defensive side of the ball and get a Pass Rushing OLB, 2 DL, and 2 DBs

My question is when do you trade Alex Smith?

he will ask to be traded once the season is over....I'm sure he is very much ASAP right now

Am I the only one thinking teams will not want to trade for him knowing that the 9ers have to take a cap hit to keep him on the roster? What are people's thinking on that?

IF you wait you lose and his $$$ is still very low

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by taney71:
Am I the only one thinking teams will not want to trade for him knowing that the 9ers have to take a cap hit to keep him on the roster? What are people's thinking on that?

If the 49ers want to trade him they will have to pick up his full contract and they have till April 1st to do that.

Am I missing something? I thought it was a 3 year contract...not an option.

Originally posted by Jcool:
If the 49ers want to trade him they will have to pick up his full contract and they have till April 1st to do that.

When does the league year begin? Can they trade him before the option comes about on April 1st?

I think Florio has it right.

Niners have big decision to make on Alex Smith
Posted by Mike Florio on November 27, 2012, 1:57 PM EST
Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick AP

On Sunday, FOX's Jay Glazer pointed out that the 49ers could part ways with quarterback Alex Smith, given that he has $8.5 million due in 2013.

We've gotten a look at the contract, and which lays out the specific formula andtimetable.

For starters, Smith has $1 million in fully-guaranteed salary for 2013. Another $1.5 million is guaranteed for injury only.

The full $7.5 million in base salary becomes fully guaranteed on April 1. Before that, however, a $1 million roster bonus becomes due on the third day of the 2013 league year.

Thus, barring a restructuring, the 49ers will have to decide whether to keep Smith by the third day of the league year, which will come at some point in early March.

Though he's still the starter (according to coach Jim Harbaugh), Smith isn't starting. Unless he's the starting starter at the end of the season, the 49ers likely won't pay that much to a non-starting starter in 2013.

Especially since the starting backup, Colin Kaepernick, will be earning only $590,000 next year, under a contract that can't be renegotiated until 2014.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/27/niners-have-big-decision-to-make-on-alex-smith/

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
He should be able to yield a 2nd Round pick.

I would LOVE it if the Niners could get a 2nd rd pick from KC. That would be ideal and would give the Niners:

1 First
2 Seconds
2 Thirds
1 4th
2 Fifths
2 6ths
2 7ths

With the right trades they can set this team up for a long time. I think they will focus on the Defensive side of the ball and get a Pass Rushing OLB, 2 DL, and 2 DBs

My question is when do you trade Alex Smith?

he will ask to be traded once the season is over....I'm sure he is very much ASAP right now

Am I the only one thinking teams will not want to trade for him knowing that the 9ers have to take a cap hit to keep him on the roster? What are people's thinking on that?

Nope. You are 100% correct. The 49ers WILL NOT trade Alex SMith. He has no value because of the nature of his contract. Teams know they HAVE to release him (assuming Kaep plays well and remains the starter) because they won't pay him 9 mil to be a backup.

All this dreaming of trading him has no basis in reality. If the Niners WERE able to find a trade partner, his value would be lowered by ALOT because of the nature of the contract.

So basically, assuming Kaep remains the starter, the 49er will release Alex Smith or get next to nothing in trade.

The only way this DOESN'T happen is if the 49ers can convince teams that they don't plan on trading him and if the QB market goes completely nuts in terms of $$$ and teams think they can save significant $$$ by trading for Alex under his existing contract rather than having to bid even higher to get him as a Free Agent. I don't see that happening tho.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
He should be able to yield a 2nd Round pick.

I would LOVE it if the Niners could get a 2nd rd pick from KC. That would be ideal and would give the Niners:

1 First
2 Seconds
2 Thirds
1 4th
2 Fifths
2 6ths
2 7ths

With the right trades they can set this team up for a long time. I think they will focus on the Defensive side of the ball and get a Pass Rushing OLB, 2 DL, and 2 DBs

My question is when do you trade Alex Smith?

he will ask to be traded once the season is over....I'm sure he is very much ASAP right now

Am I the only one thinking teams will not want to trade for him knowing that the 9ers have to take a cap hit to keep him on the roster? What are people's thinking on that?

Nope. You are 100% correct. The 49ers WILL NOT trade Alex SMith. He has no value because of the nature of his contract. Teams know they HAVE to release him (assuming Kaep plays well and remains the starter) because they won't pay him 9 mil to be a backup.

All this dreaming of trading him has no basis in reality. If the Niners WERE able to find a trade partner, his value would be lowered by ALOT because of the nature of the contract.

So basically, assuming Kaep remains the starter, the 49er will release Alex Smith or get next to nothing in trade.

The only way this DOESN'T happen is if the 49ers can convince teams that they don't plan on trading him and if the QB market goes completely nuts in terms of $$$ and teams think they can save significant $$$ by trading for Alex under his existing contract rather than having to bid even higher to get him as a Free Agent. I don't see that happening tho.

For Alex's sake, I hope you're right..but as a fan, I hope you're wrong. I think the 9ers have the cap space if they get called on it...but what is in the nature of his contract that teams wouldn't want?

Not a shot at Alex but I don't think anyone will trade for him with that contract. He's the type of guy who gets signed to step in while a young QB develops, I can't see a team identifying him as their unquestioned starter and ponying up picks and $$ for him.

Too many of these trades go bad (see Kolb, Cassel) and I'm sure ppl around the league wonder how much he really had to do with the teams success.

Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Mike Sando made an interesting comment, saying that Greg Roman will get a HC gig and he will bring in Alex Smith. That makes sense.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Why would KC trade a 2nd round pick, let alone sign Smith, after the debacle of signing another QB who was a product of a system in Cassel?

Cassel is garbage, Alex is not

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Mike Sando made an interesting comment, saying that Greg Roman will get a HC gig and he will bring in Alex Smith. That makes sense.

Smith goes back to college....

I think Roman gets a college HC gig, not NFL.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Mike Sando made an interesting comment, saying that Greg Roman will get a HC gig and he will bring in Alex Smith. That makes sense.

Depends where he gets the gig though. If he went to Carolina obviously Smith is not coming with him.