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Week 2: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

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Marvin, as always, I love the analysis. Of course, it is much easier to love it after a victory! I am probably restating some of your points, but I wanted to add my two cents:

1. I think you hit the nail on the head when you say that it was a big win BECAUSE they didn't play consistently on offense. Those drops were frustrating to watch, but they are not a bad sign for the rest of the season. Drops suck, but they also mean that good plays were called, blocking held up, and we were in a position to capitalize. That means that we are doing the hard part right! Gone are the days when the play calling seemed like the opposing D-Coordinator was sending them in; 7 drops is a huge number. I expect that to "drop" as the season progresses.

2. What really stood out to me was the fact that we ran the ball right through their strength. I expected the team to run a lot of pitches and tosses to try to take advantage of a suspect LB corps, but we ran the ball through Suh and the rest of that talent DT group. And we made it look easy!

3. I really feel like the play calling is a season long set up. Not to say we are holding back, but we are taking what the defense gives us. Teams are going to start edging closer and closer to the line of scrimmage and playing more press coverage because they see the success we are having with our short and intermediate passing game. Roman is going to recognize that and start popping it over the top more. The Lions were playing cover two with their safeties 15-20 yards off the ball to keep Vernon and Moss in front of them. That opened the middle up for Gore and Crabtree. It is really a matter of pick your poison right now!

4. Aldon looked spectacular in run support. He disengaged and moved his blockers very well. The depth at the OLB position still scares me, but we really haven't seen these guys at their best yet. We have been forced to play nickel and dime so much that Aldon has been a DE. Once we play teams that allow us to have our base out there it will be ridiculous! There isn't an Offensive Line that could handle Sopoaga, J. Smith, Ray Mcdonald, Aldon Smith, and Brooks blitzing. Teams that try to run will be crushed and teams that try to play action out of a bigger line up will see the pocket blown up. Sick stuff coming...

5. I guess the point of all of that is that this team is just STARTING to develop. The possibilities are truly scary.
look forward to your posts every week Marvin. on your last point...someone made a comment similar...and i'm paraphrasing but...
the 49ers are teetering on the edge of winning against quality opponents and completely blowing them out.

as impressive as these two wins have been, this team still has plenty of room for improvement. Can't wait for that show!
I think Manningham, Miller, and Walker need more catch drills. Manningham alligator armed a pass over the middle. Miller dropped 2, and Walker dropped at least 1.
Originally posted by Nuns:
Great review, albeit you're being tough on Aldon. He had 2 sacks last night (they didn't yet credit him for the review sack) and 3 on the year.

Not being tough on him. Both sacks were on plays that he didn't penetrate and was "taking out the trash".

Don't get me wrong. I'm not being critical...I'm just not seeing the explosion. He is also playing much more on run downs tho so there are alot of times that he hesitates before he rushes to make sure he doesn't have run responsibility.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Not being tough on him. Both sacks were on plays that he didn't penetrate and was "taking out the trash".

Don't get me wrong. I'm not being critical...I'm just not seeing the explosion. He is also playing much more on run downs tho so there are alot of times that he hesitates before he rushes to make sure he doesn't have run responsibility.

A lot of it could have to do with being tired and not being in good enough shape to play every down. Remember guys this was his 1st full game. He wasn't in a chunk of the Packers games and he didn't play in the pre-season. He isn't use to it yet. I'm just hoping for some blowouts down the road so we can rest Justin, Ray, Ahmad/Aldon...get Dobbs, Tukuafu, Haggins some work. Hope these guys are fresh at the end of the season.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Sep 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM ]
Originally posted by Gore_21:


Edit: Missed calls... I think the PI on Culliver although I didn't get to see it again. The forearm to Alex, the pick play that would have ended the game I believe and not given them the last TD... any others? For the Lions possibly bowmans hit on sliding Stafford although that was much less severe than Alex's non call. I can see why it wasn't call. I think Crabtree had a push in the back on Vernon's shake of a couple of defenders. The running into the kicker was the right call although it's unfortunate.

Those are the big ones. I think Collinsworth did a horrible job commenting on what were easily missed calls (the forearm to Alex after his slide was obvious and should have been talked about). Kyle Williams was hit over the middle a moment before the ball arrived. It was bang bang, but replay clearly showed the LB arrive before the ball (no biggie except I think it was third down and Collinsworth again sided with Detroit). The one that really pissed me off was Anthony Davis being dragged down forward after the whistle by Cliff Avril with two hands on the back of Davis' helmet. Collinsworth was calling Davis out for piledriving Avril after the play when it was clear Avril was the one playing dirty.
Originally posted by Kronos2560:
Alex Smith is the toughest Quarterback in the league.

This. That play when you could see the blood running down his nose, got me sooo pumped
great analysis as always.

second week in a row, where Alex takes the snap back two steps, stands tall, and just waits for Crabtree to get open. I like this new play, have you noticed this one?
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Not being tough on him. Both sacks were on plays that he didn't penetrate and was "taking out the trash".

Don't get me wrong. I'm not being critical...I'm just not seeing the explosion. He is also playing much more on run downs tho so there are alot of times that he hesitates before he rushes to make sure he doesn't have run responsibility.

i think that was by design. Stafford didnt take a lot of deep drops. he was trying to get the ball out quick. Plus they were keeping us honest with the run. We didn't have that "pin the ears back" rushing mentality cuz the game didn't dictate it.
Fine post marvin.

Gore also dropped a pass that he could have turned into a big gainer.

Agree w/most of everything else.

The drops are frustrating, knowing we could have won by 3 TD's.

Excellent game planning by our coaches.

Here's the great and scary part - it's only the 2nd game of the season and we aren't even close to tapping our potential. Jacobs and Ginn will add more dimensions
to the game planning.

I never realized how fast Manningham is.

Kyle Williams seems to be playing well and Boone is really making a difference.

Seeing Crabs doing so well absolutely made my night.
would also like to add that while I loathe the hands of Walker lately? He is making some big run blocks in this first half.. no question about that
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Those are the big ones. I think Collinsworth did a horrible job commenting on what were easily missed calls (the forearm to Alex after his slide was obvious and should have been talked about). Kyle Williams was hit over the middle a moment before the ball arrived. It was bang bang, but replay clearly showed the LB arrive before the ball (no biggie except I think it was third down and Collinsworth again sided with Detroit). The one that really pissed me off was Anthony Davis being dragged down forward after the whistle by Cliff Avril with two hands on the back of Davis' helmet. Collinsworth was calling Davis out for piledriving Avril after the play when it was clear Avril was the one playing dirty.

I would have to go back and re-watch but odds are he was being pulled down. I doubt Anthony decided to pile drive him after a play.
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Those are the big ones. I think Collinsworth did a horrible job commenting on what were easily missed calls (the forearm to Alex after his slide was obvious and should have been talked about). Kyle Williams was hit over the middle a moment before the ball arrived. It was bang bang, but replay clearly showed the LB arrive before the ball (no biggie except I think it was third down and Collinsworth again sided with Detroit). The one that really pissed me off was Anthony Davis being dragged down forward after the whistle by Cliff Avril with two hands on the back of Davis' helmet. Collinsworth was calling Davis out for piledriving Avril after the play when it was clear Avril was the one playing dirty.

I would have to go back and re-watch but odds are he was being pulled down. I doubt Anthony decided to pile drive him after a play.

He was by the back of his helmet. Please confirm if someone has the game DVR'd
Originally posted by oldman9er:
would also like to add that while I loathe the hands of Walker lately? He is making some big run blocks in this first half.. no question about that

You beat me to it...literally. Very versatile and excellent blocker. If he ever gets his hands back, he could be deadly and a secret weapon!
Originally posted by Sinsation:
i think that was by design. Stafford didnt take a lot of deep drops. he was trying to get the ball out quick. Plus they were keeping us honest with the run. We didn't have that "pin the ears back" rushing mentality cuz the game didn't dictate it.

Good point

Originally posted by ninerdaddy:
great analysis as always.

second week in a row, where Alex takes the snap back two steps, stands tall, and just waits for Crabtree to get open. I like this new play, have you noticed this one?

Yep, I really hope we start utilizing the quick slants more. He's not far off from busting one of those for a TD. Manningham could probably do the same.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Sep 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM ]