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Make Dashon Goldson the highest paid safety in the league?

Make Dashon Goldson the highest paid safety in the league?

he's a good player but in no way is he worth top 5 safety money. he definitely plays a part in the defense but we could replace him and probably get similar production out of a younger guy that would be sooooo much cheaper. its not like this guy has had 8 INTs each year the past 2 years. and the INTs he's had aren't the type of INTs you see Polamalu, Berry, Reed, E Thomas, or other make. Those guys make INTs that you dont see coming on passes that you have no business picking off. "hawk" makes INTs on passes thrown right at him basically errors by QBs. Top 5 guys make INTs on passes that no one else sees. I guess ok you can say goldson has a little bit of a nose for the ball but its not worth top 5 money at all. That money is better spent on Navorro and others. Also like PSINEX said he hit our own guys when he didnt need to. That was pretty moronic on his part.
Dashon was a big part of our turnaround and has only gotten better since he joined the team. He was here for some of our darkest days and has done nothing but stepped up when asked. I think its BS that someone says all his INT's are based off QB mistakes. If they are show me the proof. He definately deserves to get paid and be a niner for years to come. We have one good season and everyone thinks players are dispensible and ahave already forgotten about the players that are left over from our losing seasons. Dashon has preservered and stepped up over the years to help this D become elite. The man needs to get paid.
[ Edited by faithful4eva on May 31, 2012 at 9:47 AM ]
Originally posted by Psinex:
I think that our team's money would be better spent on extending NaVarro Bowman's contract. For all the great plays, people seem to forget that Dashon injured Tarell Brown on what probably would've been a Niners interception if he had looked to see who he was decapitating. Then he disrupted a Carlos Rogers int in progress. And these were both potentially game-changing plays against the Giants in the NFC Championship!
Not sure if this is a legit argument. Would I keep Goldson over Bowman, no. Is it really an either/or? I doubt it. However, we have a whole group of guys that may need to be exstended (or uped) Brown, Culliver, Bowman, Soap and Justin. Not sure how it all works out.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Psinex:
I think that our team's money would be better spent on extending NaVarro Bowman's contract. For all the great plays, people seem to forget that Dashon injured Tarell Brown on what probably would've been a Niners interception if he had looked to see who he was decapitating. Then he disrupted a Carlos Rogers int in progress. And these were both potentially game-changing plays against the Giants in the NFC Championship!
Not sure if this is a legit argument. Would I keep Goldson over Bowman, no. Is it really an either/or? I doubt it. However, we have a whole group of guys that may need to be exstended (or uped) Brown, Culliver, Bowman, Soap and Justin. Not sure how it all works out.

I've been wondering about this as well given who we need to resign down the road, the financial talks of the Manning would-be-effects, etc. Sometimes you've got to lose one to gain many more. What's best for the team down the road?

And then when I read the articles on Spillman today, it got me thinking. They've had two years to offer Goldson a contract (and they did, twice). It has been Goldson who has not accepted the LT offer (b/c he wants Weddle money?).

So from Donetell's perspective, it's next man up. That next man is Spillman, who just signed a LT contract and from what was quoted by these coaches, the DB's are evolving with the wide-open offenses in the league, stating they are looking at shorter S's (5'9 to 6'0) but who have great cover skills, range and make-up speed to counter these 3 & 4 WR spread sets. Spillman first was used as a CB and now the coaches seem to describe him as a FS who likes to hit, has excellent speed, is 6'0" but the same weight as Goldson (Goldson is 6"2"), great coverage skills (used an example of his knock-down coverage of a pass to Moss), competitive, hard worker, ST ace (nose for the ball and ball carrier), etc. I'm sure Donetell would love to have Goldson in an working with the entire defense BUT he also sounds happy that Spillman is getting the reps as a starter as well as the experience the backups are getting (Robinson and UDFA's).

The big concerns I've had with Goldson's game is his lack of range (unless he starts 30 yards deep) from the middle of the field to the sidelines. I've yet to see a S get to the sidelines in time to help with over-the-top coverage. I can't remember one single knock-down or INT all year. I felt with, essentially, 2 strong safeties in Goldson/Whitner, we'll be stellar in run support and the intermediate zones and 50/50 in the RZ. That's how it played out to a T. The other holes in his game is his propensity to take very poor angles, hesitation and you could argue his selfishness to make the "big INT" at all costs (some look to the NFCCG as examples where twice his teammate was in better position to make the INT but he went for it himself and crushed our own guys). We had ZERO S held on the simple RZ post route TD to Manningham also with good off-the-bench CB coverage outside-in (blown coverage?). And let's be honest, aside from two of Goldson's INT's (diving INT & baiting Brees), those were some of the worst thrown balls I have ever seen. They were literally tossed right to him in the middle of the field. The intimidation factor was a big intangible for our S's as well as their leadership and experience.

But no way, IMHO, is Goldson worth more than 5 years 25 million (the same contract we've offered him the past 2 years) and I'd even write in some incentives for PD's (over INT's) esp. for those re: range and PD's along the sidelines.

I liken Goldson to Crabtree this year. It's time to put up or shut up b/c it sounds like we have some hungry guys behind them with great attitudes and work ethics and who may even have more upside and fit our philosophies better just waiting for their chance. And that's a good thing.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 1, 2012 at 7:44 AM ]
Goldson is seeking a contract with an annual average of $8 million, a source told CSNBayArea.com. He is scheduled to earn $6.212 on a one-year franchise tender. The 49ers probably are not be willing to go more than $7 million per year, the source said.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-niners/niners-talk/Goldsons-absence-opens-door-for-Plans-B-?blockID=719112&feedID=5936
Goldson isn't worth more than 6 mil, I still say let him walk. (yes he improved last year, but I'm still not buying in.)
Pay the man he made the pro bowl.
Use the money on someone else. let him play under his franchise tag this year and move on. This dude is more Diva than Crabtree
This was a guy i had been wondering about lately and today's article in CSN Bay Area really put into perspective. I voted no on the poll simply because of the example that was used in what SD did for Weddle. It's not to say Goldson isn't worth big $$; that's all arbitrary but neither is Weddle if you ask me. It's just a matter of being smart with "where" we spend our money and having the comfort of going to the next guy in line.

I still hope Goldson comes back though- don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan; really like what he brings to our Ds' run support and love the aggression (not blaming him for knocking out Brown; bad luck) his experience & leadership is invaluable. Have to believe the front office is in negotiation and there is still time; hopefully Goldson sees the championship opportunity here and that plays into it.
Pay the man! A lot of you guys seem to think we can easily replace Goldson. Remember Mark Roman?
as soon as he signs....trade his ass
Is he worth it? Possibly; however, we need to pay other players too. We need to smartly spend the cap. We cannot give everyone on this team what they're worth.
Am i mistaken??? Or was this the guy that SAID he wanted to come back and play in San Fran BEFORE and AFTER we let him test the market?!? Didnt we sign him to a one year to let him show us what he can do?! how bad he wants to play here?!? i think he did that! PAY HIM!
I think it is seriously flawed to put much emphasis into being Highest Paid. Highest Paid does not mean you are being recognized as the best. It often times means you are pretty good and more importantly salaries are being annually increased.

In laymans terms, should Dashon Goldson get a contract that would make him the highest paid safety for now???? Hmm maybe, but no way in hell should he get paid enough to make him the highest paid safety for years to come.

I don't know the numbers but assume we are talking about a contract that would make him the highest paid safety for a short period of time(like San Diego's safety last season)
Hey, AB, what are your thots?