Historical Thread: Was/Could Steve Bono have been better than Steve Young?

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by WildBill:
Here is another thing to ponder, Young avoided sacks with his legs, would Bono lasted as long?



As for Thomas, we played a different type of D. People also forgetting the salary cap. Our problem was the CB play. Case in point Dieon. If he wasn't such a mercenary. The niners could have another 2 easy. In fact we could have won three straight.



The SOB cowboys were smart though, if you can't beat them take their players away, first Haley then Dieon.



Another thing to think about too, Haley left because he was in Joe's corner.



I still prefer Young. However, if Haley was more of a team player and then we got and kept Dieon, instead of just 5, we might actually have 8 by now. We also might have a different situation right now. No JH, no Alex, no Baalke. We might have kept Bono and also in hindsight Elvis Grbac.- then no Garcia to.

All coulda shoulda woulda-why lament, it is what it is, just like we could had Rodgers....move on

haly left because he was a screwball who was unable or unwilling to co exsist with the coaches and some of his team mates,,, like tim harris.the niner front office were idiots for trading him to the cowboys.. this thread was created for the express purpose of woulda coulda. its fun to debate what could have happend,, if you do not want to lament, no one is forcing you to.. another would could thread could be started for what could have occured had we kept haley and tim harris on the same team and then you add in thomas. it would have been the greatest defense in nfl history and bono would have been just fine. hell we may never have needed sanders

Wow, that's crazy!

Originally posted by cciowa:
at the time trading a quarterback who was not a hall of famer for a linebacker who , everyone knew was going to be a hall of famer was the right thing to do. back then young was just some guy who threw for nice stats but was not a game changer in a big game,,,, thomas on the other hand was in the top five of overalll top five nfl players and was a game changer

I think those in charge at the time knew a hell of alot more then you do and did the right thing. As for Thomas your using hindsight. Who knows Maybe they would trade for Thomas. Doesn't mean he would have been a game changer. Hell he could have signed and in his first game blown out a knee and never be the same. We can play the coulda woulda all day. In the end Young was the superior QB. And I still don't think Thomas would have made that much of an impact. Remember our corners were horrible that year.

Originally posted by kingairta:

Originally posted by cciowa:
at the time trading a quarterback who was not a hall of famer for a linebacker who , everyone knew was going to be a hall of famer was the right thing to do. back then young was just some guy who threw for nice stats but was not a game changer in a big game,,,, thomas on the other hand was in the top five of overalll top five nfl players and was a game changer

I think those in charge at the time knew a hell of alot more then you do and did the right thing. As for Thomas your using hindsight. Who knows Maybe they would trade for Thomas. Doesn't mean he would have been a game changer. Hell he could have signed and in his first game blown out a knee and never be the same. We can play the coulda woulda all day. In the end Young was the superior QB. And I still don't think Thomas would have made that much of an impact. Remember our corners were horrible that year.

I think my memory of that time is still fairly clear. Thomas was a proven monster at the time for KC. Young was just emerging out of Montana's shadow. People can see the talent but not sure if it would 'fit' the Niners offense. It's good that Young proved everyone wrong about their doubt. Because there was a short period there that Young was ready to move on. And he and everyone else wouldn't be surprised if the FO had made the decision to trade him instead of Joe.

As for myself, I was all messed up inside and torn between the 2. Just glad I didn't have to make the decision.

I can not believe that this thread made it past page one.

Bono No. Steve made a lot happen because he could scrammble and was VERY fast.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
I can not believe that this thread made it past page one.

its kind of fun to speculate. i know lots of folks wonder what if bill walsh had not retired after the super bowl. some people hate to play that game but its fun and harmless if you really want to go into the twilight zone you can say it was good we made the deal for oj simpson, that lead to the hiring of bill walsh

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Was bono better then Young at that time


Hell yes

They tried to get rid of Steve Young


Young is one of my all time favorite players.

But The 49ers WOULD have made the playoffs and WOULD have been a Super Bowl threat with bono as the stater all season

They were the best team in the league at the end of the season IMO. Its a shame they put themselves in a whole and didn't make the playoffs.

Face it we will never agree. But numbers don't lie. Young was superior to Bono that season.

They entertained trading Young not because of performance but the locker room chemistry between him and Montana.

All the teams hated facing Young. No one was afraid when Bono was at the helm.

Not a chance. Love Steve "I got you babe" Bono but he wasn't Steve Young

Originally posted by kingairta:
Face it we will never agree. But numbers don't lie. Young was superior to Bono that season.

They entertained trading Young not because of performance but the locker room chemistry between him and Montana.

All the teams hated facing Young. No one was afraid when Bono was at the helm.

i think the niners were thinking about trading young cuz they may have been thinking in the back of thier mind what jimmy johnson said in public,, that steve young can not win the big game. Plus they also had a chance to get one of the top two established bona fide linebackers at the time who was approaching his prime. thomas would have been a upgrade and then some over romo . teams may not have feared bono but he certainly did beat alot of teams.. To bad for him and the niners they just missed the playoffs that year due to thier poor start

Win that big game is a bunch of bull people cling to. Sure I could see it in other sports but football is the ultimate team sport. Sure one Guy can have a big impact but id the supporting cast doesn't step up its all for not.

Just look at P. Manning in Indy. Only one Superbowl. If that team had a respectable defense furrier g those years Manning would rival Montana to SB victories.

Young suffered the same thing.

So don't tell me he couldn't win a big game.

I still don't think a star LB would have made the difference. Would it help? Sure but not enough to offset what Young brought to the offence.

Originally posted by kingairta:
Win that big game is a bunch of bull people cling to. Sure I could see it in other sports but football is the ultimate team sport. Sure one Guy can have a big impact but id the supporting cast doesn't step up its all for not.

Just look at P. Manning in Indy. Only one Superbowl. If that team had a respectable defense furrier g those years Manning would rival Montana to SB victories.

Young suffered the same thing.

So don't tell me he couldn't win a big game.

I still don't think a star LB would have made the difference. Would it help? Sure but not enough to offset what Young brought to the offence.

still could never figure out why the team was either unable or unwilling to get a decent running back in here back then. i remember how happy i was when we got terry kirby. Never could figure out why they were ok with young being our best running back

With all due respect, this is an absurd thread.

Steve Bono is a really good guy, and was a fine player and great teammate. However, he never had a fraction of Steve Young's talent. For those of you who didn't get much of a chance to see Young play in the early 90s, he was flat out amazing...both passing and running the ball. Like Montana before him, he was often able to create something out of nothing when the original play broke down.

When he was in his prime, I don't think there was anything on the football field he couldn't do from the QB position. He led the league in passing 6 times in 7 years...
'Nuff said.

Cheers!

I think we would have won the SB with Bono when we missed the playoffs

Bono was an excellent backup and a good starter once he got his chance but he's not the Hall of Famer Young is.