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Good Read by Ray Ratto. 49ers QB is the Worst Job in America

Originally posted by fastforward:
If the SD Chargers were the 49ers, Philip Rivers would be run out of town by now, IMO. First the team let Brees go in favor of Rivers, and Brees went on to win a SB while Rivers kept failing in the playoffs. Just imagine.

All he has to do is keep winning and his job will keep getting easier.
Originally posted by Joecool:
No he didn't. SD had quite a bit of bad luck in the playoffs...some where injuries and some were crazy dumb turnovers.

He had one series of playoffs. Other than that his playoffs record is mediocre (3-4). He choked in the 2009 playoffs.

There! I behave like a 49ers fan.
[ Edited by fastforward on Mar 21, 2012 at 1:02 PM ]
Originally posted by rickdawg52:
Ray Ratto= Worst sports columnist in america...i turn off the tv when he comes on Csn Bay Area

Worst is Cohn. Ratto is second worst by a narrow margin IMO.
Originally posted by fastforward:
If the SD Chargers were the 49ers, Philip Rivers would be run out of town by now, IMO. First the team let Brees go in favor of Rivers, and Brees went on to win a SB while Rivers kept failing in the playoffs. Just imagine.

and they traded rivers for eli manning lol
Originally posted by schmons:
Originally posted by fastforward:
If the SD Chargers were the 49ers, Philip Rivers would be run out of town by now, IMO. First the team let Brees go in favor of Rivers, and Brees went on to win a SB while Rivers kept failing in the playoffs. Just imagine.

and they traded rivers for eli manning lol

And?
This is obviously a tongue-in-cheek article, but honestly I think the same can be said for just about any NFL Team - the QB is under a microscope and until he has rings to ward off his critics he won't ever be good enough. The Niners QB job may be a LITTLE worse than some due to the success of our previous QB's, but there are several teams I can think of immediately that are as bad or worse.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Ray Ratto = No Read

This
Originally posted by aTx49er:
Originally posted by schmons:
Originally posted by fastforward:
If the SD Chargers were the 49ers, Philip Rivers would be run out of town by now, IMO. First the team let Brees go in favor of Rivers, and Brees went on to win a SB while Rivers kept failing in the playoffs. Just imagine.

and they traded rivers for eli manning lol

And?

One guy went on to win 2 SBs with arguably weaker teams than the Chargers were when Rivers took over.
ray ratto, ha.
49er fans and WZers are a really whinny bunch when it comes to the QB. They expect him to be 50 / 50, 500 yards, 8 TD's, 0 Int's in every game. That's not realistic. Alex could have 3,500 yards, 23 TD's, 9 Int's this year and they would say he sucks. That's a pretty good year and a pretty good QB albeit not great. If he can win that's what matters. He was 13 - 3. But for KW's 2 muffs we would have been in the Super Bowl. Even the biggest haters have to admit that much.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
49er fans and WZers are a really whinny bunch when it comes to the QB. They expect him to be 50 / 50, 500 yards, 8 TD's, 0 Int's in every game. That's not realistic. Alex could have 3,500 yards, 23 TD's, 9 Int's this year and they would say he sucks. That's a pretty good year and a pretty good QB albeit not great. If he can win that's what matters. He was 13 - 3. But for KW's 2 muffs we would have been in the Super Bowl. Even the biggest haters have to admit that much.

Reasonable analysis of Alex is not appreciated. You either think Alex is God, or you think he is worse than Ryan Leaf. No other options are acceptable.
That article was garbage.
Originally posted by aman49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
49er fans and WZers are a really whinny bunch when it comes to the QB. They expect him to be 50 / 50, 500 yards, 8 TD's, 0 Int's in every game. That's not realistic. Alex could have 3,500 yards, 23 TD's, 9 Int's this year and they would say he sucks. That's a pretty good year and a pretty good QB albeit not great. If he can win that's what matters. He was 13 - 3. But for KW's 2 muffs we would have been in the Super Bowl. Even the biggest haters have to admit that much.

Reasonable analysis of Alex is not appreciated. You either think Alex is God, or you think he is worse than Ryan Leaf. No other options are acceptable.

The truth is he is in between. And it's time both sides admitted that. He's not "Alex Leaf." He's improved every year under horrific circumstances and injuries and HC's throwing him under the bus. But he's not Drew Brees or Peyton or Eli either. I suspect he will be better in year #2 in the same system for the first time in his life. Why would that make him worse?
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Mar 21, 2012 at 1:56 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by aman49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
49er fans and WZers are a really whinny bunch when it comes to the QB. They expect him to be 50 / 50, 500 yards, 8 TD's, 0 Int's in every game. That's not realistic. Alex could have 3,500 yards, 23 TD's, 9 Int's this year and they would say he sucks. That's a pretty good year and a pretty good QB albeit not great. If he can win that's what matters. He was 13 - 3. But for KW's 2 muffs we would have been in the Super Bowl. Even the biggest haters have to admit that much.

Reasonable analysis of Alex is not appreciated. You either think Alex is God, or you think he is worse than Ryan Leaf. No other options are acceptable.

The truth is he is in between. And it's time both sides admitted that. He's not "Alex Leaf." He's improved every year under horrific circumstances and injuries and HC's throwing him under the bus. But he's not Drew Brees or Peyton or Eli either. I suspect he will be better in year #2 in the same system for the first time in his life. Why would that make him worse?

I've said repeatedly that he is a middle of pack QB. Maybe 15th-16th best QB out of 32 starters.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by aman49:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
49er fans and WZers are a really whinny bunch when it comes to the QB. They expect him to be 50 / 50, 500 yards, 8 TD's, 0 Int's in every game. That's not realistic. Alex could have 3,500 yards, 23 TD's, 9 Int's this year and they would say he sucks. That's a pretty good year and a pretty good QB albeit not great. If he can win that's what matters. He was 13 - 3. But for KW's 2 muffs we would have been in the Super Bowl. Even the biggest haters have to admit that much.

Reasonable analysis of Alex is not appreciated. You either think Alex is God, or you think he is worse than Ryan Leaf. No other options are acceptable.

The truth is he is in between. And it's time both sides admitted that. He's not "Alex Leaf." He's improved every year under horrific circumstances and injuries and HC's throwing him under the bus. But he's not Drew Brees or Peyton or Eli either. I suspect he will be better in year #2 in the same system for the first time in his life. Why would that make him worse?

I've said repeatedly that he is a middle of pack QB. Maybe 15th-16th best QB out of 32 starters.

He was ranked 9th. I think you could make an argument that'a about where he truly is. Low interceptions, good decisions, NFC Championship game (made it that far). He's by far not the worst QB in the game he is portrayed to be. He's easily better than 20 + QB's out there IMO. Some are very young QB's or interception kings (gunslingers). He's better than a lot of those. There are a lot of teams with worse QB's than him.

I see no reason why in year #2 in the same system he can't improve more. If elite QB's are top 3 or 4 and great QB's are top 7 or 8 or whatever he's not currently in that group. But maybe "good QB's" or "higher end game managers" are 9 - 15 or something. The Saints game in the playoffs shows more than game management to me.