We may trade Spencer

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
What did he do to earn his spot on the bench? There is no way he's that bad. I think he would've been a great help when Brown went down against the Giants.

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. I understand the 3 mil. thing and injuries. But they just threw him under the bench even when he was healthy. Spencer isn't that bad from what I've seen. This has to be a practice meltdown thing or something out of the public eye, its all I can think of. I mean, I trust the coaching staff and all. But I have been wondering what was it the made them just bury Spencer at the bottom of the CB depth chart when he was a starter at the beginning of the season. There has to more to it than just the production of Brock and Culliver.

I''d take a 7th and a conditional pick, hell even a conditional pick! I'd take a bag of rusty hammers, and a conditional pick! (you can use a bag of rusty hammers to go Tonya Harding on opposing QB's before a game!)

Spencer for Aaron Rodgers straight up.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
What did he do to earn his spot on the bench? There is no way he's that bad. I think he would've been a great help when Brown went down against the Giants.

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. I understand the 3 mil. thing and injuries. But they just threw him under the bench even when he was healthy. Spencer isn't that bad from what I've seen. This has to be a practice meltdown thing or something out of the public eye, its all I can think of. I mean, I trust the coaching staff and all. But I have been wondering what was it the made them just bury Spencer at the bottom of the CB depth chart when he was a starter at the beginning of the season. There has to more to it than just the production of Brock and Culliver.

I still think Spencer had a tendency to favor his injuries. He always got the veteran's courtesy, and Harbaugh's staff wasn't feeling it.

for everyone saying its because spencer wanted the vet courtesy is wrong. it was noted time and time again spencer was the odd man out because he added NO SPECIAL TEAMS VALUE.

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
What did he do to earn his spot on the bench? There is no way he's that bad. I think he would've been a great help when Brown went down against the Giants.

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. I understand the 3 mil. thing and injuries. But they just threw him under the bench even when he was healthy. Spencer isn't that bad from what I've seen. This has to be a practice meltdown thing or something out of the public eye, its all I can think of. I mean, I trust the coaching staff and all. But I have been wondering what was it the made them just bury Spencer at the bottom of the CB depth chart when he was a starter at the beginning of the season. There has to more to it than just the production of Brock and Culliver.

I still think Spencer had a tendency to favor his injuries. He always got the veteran's courtesy, and Harbaugh's staff wasn't feeling it.

Then he most have a reputation in the locker room as a guy who malingers. Wouldn't be the first NFL player to be that way.

Originally posted by 99problems:
for everyone saying its because spencer wanted the vet courtesy is wrong. it was noted time and time again spencer was the odd man out because he added NO SPECIAL TEAMS VALUE.

Where was that noted? I never seen any real tangible reason why he was the odd man out.

I think Spencer is still a starting caliber #2 CB for many teams in this league. He's a solid #2, but a VERY good #3 nickel guy. He just got lost on the depth chart because by the time he was healthy, Rogers, Brown, and Culliver had established themselves as the 1-2-3 group. Everyone after that had to be major ST contributors (Brock, Reggie)

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
What did he do to earn his spot on the bench? There is no way he's that bad. I think he would've been a great help when Brown went down against the Giants.

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. I understand the 3 mil. thing and injuries. But they just threw him under the bench even when he was healthy. Spencer isn't that bad from what I've seen. This has to be a practice meltdown thing or something out of the public eye, its all I can think of. I mean, I trust the coaching staff and all. But I have been wondering what was it the made them just bury Spencer at the bottom of the CB depth chart when he was a starter at the beginning of the season. There has to more to it than just the production of Brock and Culliver.

I still think Spencer had a tendency to favor his injuries. He always got the veteran's courtesy, and Harbaugh's staff wasn't feeling it.

Then he most have a reputation in the locker room as a guy who malingers. Wouldn't be the first NFL player to be that way.

...and that's exactly why I'm saying Harbaugh might not have been a fan of SS.

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
What did he do to earn his spot on the bench? There is no way he's that bad. I think he would've been a great help when Brown went down against the Giants.

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. I understand the 3 mil. thing and injuries. But they just threw him under the bench even when he was healthy. Spencer isn't that bad from what I've seen. This has to be a practice meltdown thing or something out of the public eye, its all I can think of. I mean, I trust the coaching staff and all. But I have been wondering what was it the made them just bury Spencer at the bottom of the CB depth chart when he was a starter at the beginning of the season. There has to more to it than just the production of Brock and Culliver.

I still think Spencer had a tendency to favor his injuries. He always got the veteran's courtesy, and Harbaugh's staff wasn't feeling it.

Then he most have a reputation in the locker room as a guy who malingers. Wouldn't be the first NFL player to be that way.

...and that's exactly why I'm saying Harbaugh might not have been a fan of SS.

It was reported that after the hamstring injuries he had a nagging toe injury that lasted through most of the season. From the very first day, Fangio said if a player isnt healthy he doesnt feel comfortable playing him. Couple that with SS's history of malingering, by the time he may have been healthy enough to contribute it could of been too late and the coaches felt more comfortable with the players theyve seen all season.

This is pretty common when a new coaching staff comes in, whether its injuries or attitude, some players just arent given the chance because the coaches only have a short window to get comfortable with the guys that fit their scheme... once the season starts its all about gameplanning, not figuring out the depth chart. Rogers is a great example, he's always been a great corner but his attitude and the stigma of dropped interceptions led him to Shanahans doghouse. Coaching staffs can only play around with the depth chart for so long, once the season starts the coaches just move forward with who they are comfortable with, they cant "test out" a guy to see if he's 100% and fits the scheme in a real game situation if the score is still close.... and outside of tampa its not like this team had allot of 2nd halfs they could experiment with.

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
What did he do to earn his spot on the bench? There is no way he's that bad. I think he would've been a great help when Brown went down against the Giants.

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. I understand the 3 mil. thing and injuries. But they just threw him under the bench even when he was healthy. Spencer isn't that bad from what I've seen. This has to be a practice meltdown thing or something out of the public eye, its all I can think of. I mean, I trust the coaching staff and all. But I have been wondering what was it the made them just bury Spencer at the bottom of the CB depth chart when he was a starter at the beginning of the season. There has to more to it than just the production of Brock and Culliver.

I still think Spencer had a tendency to favor his injuries. He always got the veteran's courtesy, and Harbaugh's staff wasn't feeling it.

Then he most have a reputation in the locker room as a guy who malingers. Wouldn't be the first NFL player to be that way.

...and that's exactly why I'm saying Harbaugh might not have been a fan of SS.

Then he has no chance of returning. Sad, he's a potential starter on some teams and a 2nd or 3rd on CB on most.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NickSh49:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
What did he do to earn his spot on the bench? There is no way he's that bad. I think he would've been a great help when Brown went down against the Giants.

Yeah, I've been wondering that myself. I understand the 3 mil. thing and injuries. But they just threw him under the bench even when he was healthy. Spencer isn't that bad from what I've seen. This has to be a practice meltdown thing or something out of the public eye, its all I can think of. I mean, I trust the coaching staff and all. But I have been wondering what was it the made them just bury Spencer at the bottom of the CB depth chart when he was a starter at the beginning of the season. There has to more to it than just the production of Brock and Culliver.

I still think Spencer had a tendency to favor his injuries. He always got the veteran's courtesy, and Harbaugh's staff wasn't feeling it.

Then he most have a reputation in the locker room as a guy who malingers. Wouldn't be the first NFL player to be that way.

...and that's exactly why I'm saying Harbaugh might not have been a fan of SS.

Then he has no chance of returning. Sad, he's a potential starter on some teams and a 2nd or 3rd on CB on most.

Pats and denver could use help, call them up, pats always got lots of spare draft picks.

Originally posted by 12b6demurrer:

Something just popped into my head.

What if Spencer was actually healthy all year, and Baalke/Harbaugh purposely didn't play him so he'd STAY healthy to up his trade value, knowing they had young cornerbacks for the future?

LOL.

If they wanted to up his value, playing him would be the way to do it. You don't raise anyone's value by not letting them play.

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by 12b6demurrer:
Something just popped into my head.

What if Spencer was actually healthy all year, and Baalke/Harbaugh purposely didn't play him so he'd STAY healthy to up his trade value, knowing they had young cornerbacks for the future?

LOL.

If they wanted to up his value, playing him would be the way to do it. You don't raise anyone's value by not letting them play.

It would up CK's value, they would wonder if he progressed, and all they would have to go on is his "potential"

Originally posted by 99problems:

Originally posted by susweel:
7th round pick come on down.

and if im not mistaken if we cut him we take a cap hit. if he's traded we dont. am i right?

I'm 95% sure we'd still take the cap hit. When we signed his contract, we paid him his guaranteed money. We owe him the money, so any money that we owed him for the year for his signing bonus we will still pay, which will be our cap hit. I'm not sure what his signing bonus is, but I do not think it's that much. However, better to at least get a 7th out of him than just letting him walk.