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One thing David Carr is already better than Alex at

Great. Just what we need. More QB competition. After all, it worked out so well the past 2 seasons, why not do it again right? I really hope we just stick with one guy. I don't care what his name is...just stick with one guy. Let him get all the reps, establish timing trust and chemistry with our Recievers and win games.

To the Niner Brass, can we PLEASE stop all this fvcking non sense? We wasted two years pretending guys like JTO and Shaun Hill were going to be saviors for the sake of competition. All it did was divide 1st team reps. Now David Carr is the new underground niner hero?

Cool. Looks like another 8-8 season.
I think it's clear that Alex will get all the first team snaps, but I think it's a bit funny how the board viewpoint on Carr went from WTF, why would we even sign him, to, well...he should have a fair shake at starting.
Also, I just wanted to point out the age old adage that the fan favorite is always the backup qb.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
If Alex doesn't win the starting job (period) this year, or somehow manages to get his ass yanked after week 5 he won't be a 49er in 2011.

Hell, it already sounds like Carr wants a starting job more than Alex Smith. I wouldn't honestly be surprised if Carr's determination/leadership/play could swoon Singletary into making him a starter, I'm not s**ttin'.

May I ask how you came to this conclusion?

Have you read his twitter comments? -He doesn't come off as a dude looking for a complacent 'backup' gig behind 'Tiny Hands' Mcgillicutty.

I'm just saying, whether we like it or not there could be a foreshadowed QB competition in the works (yet again).

So you don't have any evidence to back it up. Just based off of opinion and conjecture like I thought. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that David Carr wants to start, but how can you say that he wants it more than Alex Smith?

Well, what has Alex shown through conjecture thus far than a couple of mumbled words and zero showing of confidence? -I'm sorry, but that heartfelt 'Hollywood' go-getter crap doesn't buy me, his throwing mechanics are still crap and whenever he throws an interception he still forces his head down in shame.

Besides a heart-felt shoulder story, this guy looks like a wet duck when it comes to exuding any sort of attitude/showing of confidence a winner would. No swagger, no direction, no sense of place or hunger. And I know this because the Alex Smith we see now is the same Alex Smith that came out of Utah (same mislead Urban Meyer disaster put through a non-NFL system with the promise that everything he learned in college will make him an NFL superstar).

It's survival of the fittest, sport, leave the meek and weak at the door.

So after he throws an interception he should hold his head up high, and be cheerful?

The same thing was said about Eli, and then he became the superbowl MVP and yet still has the same body language.

What I also find interesting that everybody is still buying the small Hands s**t that Nolan used as an excuse.

Let's see how he handles himself this season if he really isn't up to the job than let him go.

It seems as if a lot of you want him to fail, I don't I want him to be successful because that means that the niners are successful.
wait, what's the one thing carr's better at ? lol
Originally posted by ritchie:
They're both too metro for football.



as much as i'd like to disagree....i find it hard to do so..


what the hell. go niners
Originally posted by GorefullBore:
I really hope that Alex is the Qb going into this season. I trully believe that he is our best option at the position. That being said, I am pretty confident in saying that Carr is better than Alex from under center. That may be obvious I don't know, but we all know about Alex's struggles in that area. Carr on the other hand has been under center for his entire career if I'm not mistaken. If Alex struggles for any prolonged period of time maybe we should give Carr a shot. Again I would be very supprised if this happened especially with Alex in year two and Carr learning the offense from scratch.

hold on a sec.

first off, if Smith can get the job done, whats it matter where hes snapping the ball at?

and David Carr, while possessing the "tools" to be a good QB, obviously isnt starting anymore for a reason. we changed our offense to fit Alex Smith's strengths, as well as the strengths of our pass catchers like Davis and Crabtree. i dont think getting a guy who could play under center was a reason we signed Carr.

you have to throw out Smith's 2005 season, which lets face it, he should never have had to play a snap in. and you have to throw out 2007 and 2008, which he was out. so now look at his career. after 2 full seasons, he had what would be considered a solid "rookie" season in 2006, and a 10 game season last year in which his extrapolated stats put him up there with Donovan McNabb in 2009.

so heading into his 3rd real NFL season, i just dont understand why people are still acting like hes a big bust and he'll never be anything.
alex smith numbers under center last year we not that bad i truly hope alex proves he is the franchise qb we hoped for because i know david carr is not the qb of the future or present one thing carr is better at is losing and getting sacked
[ Edited by 49ersswagger on Mar 12, 2010 at 5:51 AM ]
another...jto or shaun hill..imo
Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:
Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
If Alex doesn't win the starting job (period) this year, or somehow manages to get his ass yanked after week 5 he won't be a 49er in 2011.

Hell, it already sounds like Carr wants a starting job more than Alex Smith. I wouldn't honestly be surprised if Carr's determination/leadership/play could swoon Singletary into making him a starter, I'm not s**ttin'.

May I ask how you came to this conclusion?

Here is the response tweet from Carr's new account there as a Niner:
"Patrick called me almost as soon as he posted his thoughts," Carr writes on TwitLonger in a response to KNBR's Dan Dibley. "We had great talk, I admire his passion for his teamates, but I believe I can help this team. I'm sure Patrick is not the only player who will be thinkn "what's this guy got?", I told him that's why I left NY, to prove to myself and the rest of the NFL, I Can Play at a High Level, I can be the difference for a team, I believe in my heart I'm ready, Patrick and I have one thing in common, we will do ALL that is needed to bring another Championship to the 49ers."LINK

I don't EVER recall Smith saying anything about helping to bring back a Championship to SF. This paragraph already sounds more aggressive than anything Smith has ever said.
I agree with the Snake......

I hope Smith does well, but I also hope that if he doesn't, there is no hesitation to see what Carr has, nuff, is nuff, ya know?
NINERS!

But Alex has even as recent as his interview that aired on CSN Bay Area. Just because you capitalize ever doesn't mean it just happened.

Mods should really lock ALL (see I can capitalize too.) quarterback threads until atleast training camp. It was bad when it was Nate Davis, but this is borderline insane.

David Carr? A 30 year old journeryman quarterback who has never produced during his seven year career. He's JTO part 2, the only difference is he was drafted higher. But, lest I forget the so-called "swagger" shown on his twitter page, yeah because that's an excellent way to judge a quarterback.

Once again, as much as it may pain the Dungeon of Alex Smith Haters (or DASH for short, its a work in progress ), don't want to hear it Alex Smith is starting week one of the 2010 season. If at any point we need to put David Carr in for any extended period of time then we will be severely f**ked. Fact of life. And for those rooting against Alex if he fails as you DASHers are so assured will happen, he will be gone, and he will be taking Scot McCloughan with him, and Singletary for that matter as well.

That's it, its all come to a head, make a break for this whole regime including the quarterback they chose. The names of the major players will be the same Alex, Scot, and Mike (now played by Singletary, instead of the guy in the suit.) no matter how badly some of you may wish for a knight in shining armor, none is coming, either they succeed or we start over. So, to the DASHers out there, you might really want to start thinking about throwing your support behind "Alexia", McClueless, and Sing (does he have an insulting nickname yet?), because they are all we got.

No, because people on this board are physically afraid of him.
  • TX9R
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Taking a beating. Carr may be the best all time at that.
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
The thing is, I don't think Alex Smith is any better than David Carr. They are both mediocre QBs, but Carr has better mechanics. All the excuses made for Alex can be made for Carr minus the shoulder injury. Carr wasn't exactly in a good position in Houston and really was never given a shot at success. I always thought he could be a good QB given the proper situation, but unless the O-Line gets it together, we dont have the proper situation for him.

I'd like to see Alex start the season so we can finally see if he makes any progress under the same OC for a second season. If he fails, there are NO MORE EXCUSES and he'll need to be benched, then released.

I have no problem rolling with Carr. We don't have anyone undoubtedly better.

Agree
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Originally posted by TX9R:
Taking a beating. Carr may be the best all time at that.

I know, wasn't Carr sacked about 270 times, that's an awful lot considering how young he is.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
If Alex doesn't win the starting job (period) this year, or somehow manages to get his ass yanked after week 5 he won't be a 49er in 2011.

Hell, it already sounds like Carr wants a starting job more than Alex Smith. I wouldn't honestly be surprised if Carr's determination/leadership/play could swoon Singletary into making him a starter, I'm not s**ttin'.

May I ask how you came to this conclusion?

Have you read his twitter comments? -He doesn't come off as a dude looking for a complacent 'backup' gig behind 'Tiny Hands' Mcgillicutty.

I'm just saying, whether we like it or not there could be a foreshadowed QB competition in the works (yet again).

lmao
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
If Alex doesn't win the starting job (period) this year, or somehow manages to get his ass yanked after week 5 he won't be a 49er in 2011.

Hell, it already sounds like Carr wants a starting job more than Alex Smith. I wouldn't honestly be surprised if Carr's determination/leadership/play could swoon Singletary into making him a starter, I'm not s**ttin'.

May I ask how you came to this conclusion?

Have you read his twitter comments? -He doesn't come off as a dude looking for a complacent 'backup' gig behind 'Tiny Hands' Mcgillicutty.

I'm just saying, whether we like it or not there could be a foreshadowed QB competition in the works (yet again).

lmao

[ Edited by valrod33 on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:11 AM ]