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start alex smith after the bye?

start alex smith after the bye?

Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

you're really gonna compare the steelers who have been in the playoffs consecutively over the last few years to us... this is a joke!
I don't see Singletary benching Hill -- yet. But, if we start losing and it's mostly because of the offense, we will see Smith. That would allow us to see if he is ever going to be anything or not. But Hill will not be benched over the bye.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

I don't even see how that relates. But I ask if you even watched the playoffs. The Cardinals rolled through the NFC, because they resolved those issues. They ran the ball very well, & gave Kurt great pass protection. It would have been an early exit if that had not been the case. And the Steelers, well they always show up lateley in the end of the season. They were very solid overall.

[ Edited by djfullshred on Oct 13, 2009 at 11:20:28 ]
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

This! And yes I'm yelling too!

i didn't know football or web blogging had anything to do with typing etiquette!

have a good day 49ers!
  • pd24
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Originally posted by alanbeez22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

you're really gonna compare the steelers who have been in the playoffs consecutively over the last few years to us... this is a joke!

Not comparing teams, just putting it out there that QB's can play well even if they get no time. Look at Rogers and Ben this year thay are doing good. Look at KC's QB's, they have been sacked 1 more time than ours but have 9td's and 2 int's.
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

This! And yes I'm yelling too!

i didn't know football or web blogging had anything to do with typing etiquette!

have a good day 49ers!

Since you don't know...typing in all caps is bad etiquette on all forums/blogs.
  • pd24
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  • Posts: 2,075
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

I don't even see how that relates. But I ask if you even watched the playoffs. The Cardinals rolled through the NFC, because they resolved those issues. They ran the ball very well, & gave Kurt great pass protection. It would have been an early exit if that had not been the case. And the Steelers, well they always show up lateley in the end of the season. They were very solid overall.
So in the reg season when those issues were not "fixed", Kurt was still having a MVP type season with no run game. Warner is a real NFL QB that can make quick reads and buy time if he needs it.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

I don't even see how that relates. But I ask if you even watched the playoffs. The Cardinals rolled through the NFC, because they resolved those issues. They ran the ball very well, & gave Kurt great pass protection. It would have been an early exit if that had not been the case. And the Steelers, well they always show up lateley in the end of the season. They were very solid overall.
So in the reg season when those issues were not "fixed", Kurt was still having a MVP type season with no run game. Warner is a real NFL QB that can make quick reads and buy time if he needs it.

You are right, we should start Kurt Warner!
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

you're really gonna compare the steelers who have been in the playoffs consecutively over the last few years to us... this is a joke!

Not comparing teams, just putting it out there that QB's can play well even if they get no time. Look at Rogers and Ben this year thay are doing good. Look at KC's QB's, they have been sacked 1 more time than ours but have 9td's and 2 int's.

with out a doubt some qb's can play with out a line! that i'm not disagreeing with you. but our qb is not named rogers, big ben, or matt cassel! our qb's are smith, hill and nate davis! if any of our qb's has the potential to be at that caliber it's nate davis! he's our only hope! we shoulda went after Cutler!
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

This! And yes I'm yelling too!

i didn't know football or web blogging had anything to do with typing etiquette!

have a good day 49ers!

Since you don't know...typing in all caps is bad etiquette on all forums/blogs.

thanks for letting me know! i'll be sure to do it more often!
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

you're really gonna compare the steelers who have been in the playoffs consecutively over the last few years to us... this is a joke!

Not comparing teams, just putting it out there that QB's can play well even if they get no time. Look at Rogers and Ben this year thay are doing good. Look at KC's QB's, they have been sacked 1 more time than ours but have 9td's and 2 int's.

Kansas City is 0-5. So if you are trying to make the case that a decent QB with a bad O-line can get it done, you are failing miserabely at making that point.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Shaun Hill has proven he can perform well against NFL teams and has gotten the approval and support from former NFL players and analysts. People who like to talk s**t about him live in a fantasy world where they think we can trade for an elite QB. The fact of the matter is, Hill can't do it all by himself. Tom Brady would be injured if he played with this O-Line. Jimmy Raye needs to take the cuffs of Hill and let him throw the ball.

For you posters that are so pissed that Hill is our QB, he gets wins. Who gives a s**t if he's not flashy or can throw 60 yards. It doesn't matter. What matters at the end of the day is if he is putting our team in a position to win.

The D is putting this team in a position to win, and when they can't, Hill does not help. He is the leader of a team that leads the NFL in 3 and outs and is the worst on 3rd downs. If the D doesn't show up, Hill is not winning any games for us.

Is this all his fault? Has his o-line helped him even the slightest? Has Raye's predictable playcalling help? Cus all I see is a defender in his face almost the majority of the game. Or a screen pass that goes for two yards. The D does help but they got crushed last week. They couldn't cover and couldn't tackle.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Shaun Hill has proven he can perform well against NFL teams and has gotten the approval and support from former NFL players and analysts. People who like to talk s**t about him live in a fantasy world where they think we can trade for an elite QB. The fact of the matter is, Hill can't do it all by himself. Tom Brady would be injured if he played with this O-Line. Jimmy Raye needs to take the cuffs of Hill and let him throw the ball.

Didn't he just throw the ball 38 times?

Originally posted by SF69ers:
For you posters that are so pissed that Hill is our QB, he gets wins. Who gives a s**t if he's not flashy or can throw 60 yards. It doesn't matter. What matters at the end of the day is if he is putting our team in a position to win.

Has he done that this year? Sure, THE TEAM has three wins, but he has not put the team in position to win those games. He has not played well in one of them. Seattle was his best game this year and he still only averaged 5.5 yards per... Against 8-9 in the box all day no less.

Through 5 games he's in the bottom 10 in completion percentage, and is in the bottom half of all QBs for all other stats. He's done nothing but make poor decisions and worse throws when he makes the right decision.

He threw the ball 38 times. That's good but how many of those attempts was he under pressure. Even Hill showed frustration because he was running around just to get some time. And when he called audibles or a hot route, none of the receivers read it and ran the wrong direction. Don't place all the blame on Hill just cus the rest of the offense didn't perform well.
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

I don't even see how that relates. But I ask if you even watched the playoffs. The Cardinals rolled through the NFC, because they resolved those issues. They ran the ball very well, & gave Kurt great pass protection. It would have been an early exit if that had not been the case. And the Steelers, well they always show up lateley in the end of the season. They were very solid overall.
So in the reg season when those issues were not "fixed", Kurt was still having a MVP type season with no run game. Warner is a real NFL QB that can make quick reads and buy time if he needs it.

You are right, we should start Kurt Warner!

lol, I don't even know what the hell we are talking about anymore. I thought this thread was a debate about Alex Smith being an option for starter. This is getting really retarded.
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by Sugatis:
Originally posted by alanbeez22:
IS ALEX SMITH REALLY THE ANSWER? 1ST OFF OUR OLINE DIDN'T HOLD UP, 2ND OFF WE PLAYED AGAINST MATT RYAN! OF COURSE OUR QB IS GONNA LOOK LIKE s**t PLAYING AGAINST MATT RYAN! 3RD OUR OFFENSE COULDN'T HOLD UP FOR 3 SECONDS! 4TH WE'RE LUCKY HILL DIDN'T THROW 10 PICKS!

ALEX SMITH IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Neither is Shaun Hill. Bluntly he is a scrub there is a reason he didn't play a down in the NFL for the first 4 years or get drafted - he is no diamond in the rough he is just a little smarter JTO minus the arm.

But even if true, the idea behind replacing someone is to improve the position. Is Alex Smith really going to make them better if he gets called up? Is the rest of the offense going to respond to him, be in sync with him? Or will they be making a bad situation worse. Knee jerk reactions don't usually improve a bad situation.

I don't think it's a knee jerk reaction after five piss-poor games. It's not like the ATL game was the first poor performance of Hill's. It was just the most pronounced because of the score and the fact that he was allowed to throw the ball more than any game previous.

It's always a knee jerk reaction here. What Singletary talked about on the radio today was making O-line changes. That is the crux of the problem with this offense.

Amazing. We are 3-2 with absolutely no running game. Hill is doing the best a QB can do with no protection and not being able to use play action. The teams we are facing aren't even loading up the box. They were stoping us with 6 guys.
Look up the team that won the Super Bowl last year, they had a bad O line and a bad running game.

you're really gonna compare the steelers who have been in the playoffs consecutively over the last few years to us... this is a joke!

Not comparing teams, just putting it out there that QB's can play well even if they get no time. Look at Rogers and Ben this year thay are doing good. Look at KC's QB's, they have been sacked 1 more time than ours but have 9td's and 2 int's.

Kansas City is 0-5. So if you are trying to make the case that a decent QB with a bad O-line can get it done, you are failing miserabely at making that point.

I agree with you djfullshred. Since we got destroyed on Sunday, everyone wants to blame Hill because he didn't keep us in the game with 350 yards passing and 3 TDs. They're not blaming it on the FACT that the o-line played like s**t, Coffee has no vision, receivers dropping balls, or the secondary getting burned.
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