Irsay is very close to Manning and there was apparent friction between the quarterback and general manager in recent weeks.
Isray prolly doesnt want to get rid of manning.
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Jan 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM
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Isray prolly doesnt want to get rid of manning.
Jan 2, 2012 at 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by 190836:
Its all over the tweeter world. Wow!! he is one of the best GMs in biz, Why would they do that?
They didnt have talent for s**t
Manning made everyone look good, such a fail on their part by not surrounding him with more talent over the years
Jan 2, 2012 at 12:40 PM
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They really need to rebuild. Enough with this Manning nonsense. Their roster is abysmal, top to bottom.
Manning, at best, gives them 3 more years of mediocrity. Then what?
They have to bite the bullet eventually. Do it now while Manning has trade value.
Get Manning to restructure (so he can be traded), ask him to give 5 teams he'd like to play for, and work out a deal with one of those teams.
Manning, at best, gives them 3 more years of mediocrity. Then what?
They have to bite the bullet eventually. Do it now while Manning has trade value.
Get Manning to restructure (so he can be traded), ask him to give 5 teams he'd like to play for, and work out a deal with one of those teams.
Jan 2, 2012 at 12:52 PM
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Do you think the Colts would be better off with Luck or trading the #1 pick for a huge return, drafting a lesser QB to groom behind Manning for 3 years or so and rebuilding that way?
Jan 2, 2012 at 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Do you think the Colts would be better off with Luck or trading the #1 pick for a huge return, drafting a lesser QB to groom behind Manning for 3 years or so and rebuilding that way?
With the emergence of RGIII, teams aren't going to give up 3 first round picks. And if Luck is the next Manning style QB then he should be able to cover up some average talent.
Jan 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Do you think the Colts would be better off with Luck or trading the #1 pick for a huge return, drafting a lesser QB to groom behind Manning for 3 years or so and rebuilding that way?
Well, considering the Rams won't take a QB and the Vikings likely wouldn't take Griffin...the Colts could trade down with the Browns (who have a ton of picks from their Julio Jones trade) and still pick up Robert Griffin at #4. Or after making that trade, trade up from #4 to #2 with their bounty of picks to still get Griffin.
Trading Manning should net at least a 2nd rounder, maybe a 1st. Remember that this is a Peyton Manning coming off a major, and possibly career ending, surgery in his mid 30's.
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM
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Originally posted by okdkid:Whose to say Manning will restructure? If you're Manning why would you ask your future team to make sacrifices when you don't need to. Indy says they're moving on if you're Peyton Manning you ask for the release. You hold the cards because otherwise they're giving you a 28 million dollar bonus.
They really need to rebuild. Enough with this Manning nonsense. Their roster is abysmal, top to bottom.
Manning, at best, gives them 3 more years of mediocrity. Then what?
They have to bite the bullet eventually. Do it now while Manning has trade value.
Get Manning to restructure (so he can be traded), ask him to give 5 teams he'd like to play for, and work out a deal with one of those teams.
You restructure, and they're going to leverage those 5 teams against each other and hurt your new team's chances.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Jan 2, 2012 at 1:03 PM ]
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:03 PM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by okdkid:Whose to say Manning will restructure? If you're Manning why would you ask your future team to make sacrifices when you don't need to. Indy says they're moving on if you're Peyton Manning you ask for the release. You hold the cards because otherwise they're giving you a 28 million dollar bonus.
They really need to rebuild. Enough with this Manning nonsense. Their roster is abysmal, top to bottom.
Manning, at best, gives them 3 more years of mediocrity. Then what?
They have to bite the bullet eventually. Do it now while Manning has trade value.
Get Manning to restructure (so he can be traded), ask him to give 5 teams he'd like to play for, and work out a deal with one of those teams.
Because I'm assuming, at this point in his career, he wants to win championships. His window is closing fast. He has enough money for 10 lifetimes. And Indy will not be in Superbowl contention in the near future.
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:08 PM
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LMAO they were riding Manning so hard this past decade! He's basically the Wal Mart in that South Park Wal Mart episode. Once he comes into your city, he completely takes over..
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM
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Would you guys trade 2 first round picks for Manning? 
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Because I'm assuming, at this point in his career, he wants to win championships. His window is closing fast. He has enough money for 10 lifetimes. And Indy will not be in Superbowl contention in the near future.
He wouldn't be leveraging the Colts for money, he's using the money Indy is about to owe him to get himself released. You brought up Cleveland. The Browns would be much better off with Peyton and those 2 1st rounders opposed to Peyton. Mohammad Masaquoi and Josh Cribbs aren't going to get the job done.
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:17 PM
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Originally posted by okdkid:They won 12 or more games 7 years in a row, I think it takes more than one guy (Manning) to do that.
Originally posted by 190836:
Its all over the tweeter world. Wow!! he is one of the best GMs in biz, Why would the do that?
They weren't very good at all. They might be among the league's worst. That roster is a complete joke. And it has been for some time now.
Manning covered everything we're seeing now.
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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Originally posted by ImaMod:
Would you guys trade 2 first round picks for Manning?
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM
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Originally posted by BobS:
They won 12 or more games 7 years in a row, I think it takes more than one guy (Manning) to do that.
honestly..
If you took Manning off those teams I dont think they would win more than 4 games..
Jan 2, 2012 at 1:22 PM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Because I'm assuming, at this point in his career, he wants to win championships. His window is closing fast. He has enough money for 10 lifetimes. And Indy will not be in Superbowl contention in the near future.
He wouldn't be leveraging the Colts for money, he's using the money Indy is about to owe him to get himself released. You brought up Cleveland. The Browns would be much better off with Peyton and those 2 1st rounders opposed to Peyton. Mohammad Masaquoi and Josh Cribbs aren't going to get the job done.
What happens if the Colts don't release him? What if the Colts decide to eat the $28MM and attempt to trade him for a first, to a league worst team? Sure, Peyton gets his money, but he also kisses his chance at another championship goodbye. It's playing with fire on both sides.