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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Kolb is a system qb. The eagles have duped teams before and it looks like they will again

And how do you know he is a system QB, considering he has only played in one NFL system and has 7 career starts ? If he is a system QB however then that system is the same that we plan on running, the WCO.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Kolb is a system qb. The eagles have duped teams before and it looks like they will again

And how do you know he is a system QB, considering he has only played in one NFL system and has 7 career starts ? If he is a system QB however then that system is the same that we plan on running, the WCO.

yeah, just like washington runs the west coast. mcnabb worked out real well.

and i can't say with 100% certainty that he is a system qb. but given the eagles history of fleecing teams out of picks for washed up or crappy qb's masked by their offensive system which has been fine tuned for a decade, i don't think kolb is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. i guess i wouldn't be pissed if we gave up a 3rd rounder cause the risk/reward is easier to swallow, but any team who gives up a 1st for him is f**king retarded.

i'm not sure why people are so infatuated with him. he has had one of the top 5 best sets of receivers, a pass happy coach and was able to sit for a couple years to learn the system. all that and he still wasn't really impressive
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Kolb is a system qb. The eagles have duped teams before and it looks like they will again

And how do you know he is a system QB, considering he has only played in one NFL system and has 7 career starts ? If he is a system QB however then that system is the same that we plan on running, the WCO.

yeah, just like washington runs the west coast. mcnabb worked out real well.

and i can't say with 100% certainty that he is a system qb. but given the eagles history of fleecing teams out of picks for washed up or crappy qb's masked by their offensive system which has been fine tuned for a decade, i don't think kolb is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. i guess i wouldn't be pissed if we gave up a 3rd rounder cause the risk/reward is easier to swallow, but any team who gives up a 1st for him is f**king retarded.

i'm not sure why people are so infatuated with him. he has had one of the top 5 best sets of receivers, a pass happy coach and was able to sit for a couple years to learn the system. all that and he still wasn't really impressive

all that and he has the same career passer rating as alex who had two of worst hc in nfl for their years different oc every year not great wr no o line at all for his first 2 years and had 15 int in his rookie year
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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Kolb is a system qb. The eagles have duped teams before and it looks like they will again

And how do you know he is a system QB, considering he has only played in one NFL system and has 7 career starts ? If he is a system QB however then that system is the same that we plan on running, the WCO.

yeah, just like washington runs the west coast. mcnabb worked out real well.

and i can't say with 100% certainty that he is a system qb. but given the eagles history of fleecing teams out of picks for washed up or crappy qb's masked by their offensive system which has been fine tuned for a decade, i don't think kolb is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. i guess i wouldn't be pissed if we gave up a 3rd rounder cause the risk/reward is easier to swallow, but any team who gives up a 1st for him is f**king retarded.

i'm not sure why people are so infatuated with him. he has had one of the top 5 best sets of receivers, a pass happy coach and was able to sit for a couple years to learn the system. all that and he still wasn't really impressive

The Eagles also surrendered a s**t ton of sacks as the OL was in shambles. Kolb was sacked 15 times in 5 starts last year. He had a decent outing vs Washington, a slightly better one vs us the following week then a great one vs the Falcons before a not so hot performance vs Washington. Then coming out of the bye they went back to Vick, not exactly stability for a young QB or his confidence.

If you go back and watch Aaron Rodgers in his first year as a starter he didn't light the world on fire in those first few starts, nor did Carson Palmer who are 2 other QB's who had a chance to sit and learn (and both QB's were highly regarded compared to Kolb coming out of college).

Again he has a buzz across the league and not just from the media, but also other NFL teams who have legit interest, all of whom know more than we do. There is a reason why many teams are interested.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Kolb is a system qb. The eagles have duped teams before and it looks like they will again

And how do you know he is a system QB, considering he has only played in one NFL system and has 7 career starts ? If he is a system QB however then that system is the same that we plan on running, the WCO.

yeah, just like washington runs the west coast. mcnabb worked out real well.

and i can't say with 100% certainty that he is a system qb. but given the eagles history of fleecing teams out of picks for washed up or crappy qb's masked by their offensive system which has been fine tuned for a decade, i don't think kolb is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. i guess i wouldn't be pissed if we gave up a 3rd rounder cause the risk/reward is easier to swallow, but any team who gives up a 1st for him is f**king retarded.

i'm not sure why people are so infatuated with him. he has had one of the top 5 best sets of receivers, a pass happy coach and was able to sit for a couple years to learn the system. all that and he still wasn't really impressive

The Eagles also surrendered a s**t ton of sacks as the OL was in shambles. Kolb was sacked 15 times in 5 starts last year. He had a decent outing vs Washington, a slightly better one vs us the following week then a great one vs the Falcons before a not so hot performance vs Washington. Then coming out of the bye they went back to Vick, not exactly stability for a young QB or his confidence.

If you go back and watch Aaron Rodgers in his first year as a starter he didn't light the world on fire in those first few starts, nor did Carson Palmer who are 2 other QB's who had a chance to sit and learn (and both QB's were highly regarded compared to Kolb coming out of college).

Again he has a buzz across the league and not just from the media, but also other NFL teams who have legit interest, all of whom know more than we do. There is a reason why many teams are interested.

sounds like the same type of excuses alex smith gets here. we might as well keep alex smith if we're just going to give guys a pass over o-line, receivers, coaching or whatever.

erron rodgers sat behind a hall of famer and was in the same offensive system for a number of years. kolb will not have been in the same system. you are very naive if you think the eagles west coast is the 49ers west coast. maybe some of the terminology might be the same but this isn't madden football where you magically plug in a qb into any system and he is the same qb he was elsewhere.

as i said before no one is going to give up a 1st for him and if they do they're f**king stupid. this is why i hope the seachickens get him by trading their 1st!
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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Kolb is a system qb. The eagles have duped teams before and it looks like they will again

And how do you know he is a system QB, considering he has only played in one NFL system and has 7 career starts ? If he is a system QB however then that system is the same that we plan on running, the WCO.

yeah, just like washington runs the west coast. mcnabb worked out real well.

and i can't say with 100% certainty that he is a system qb. but given the eagles history of fleecing teams out of picks for washed up or crappy qb's masked by their offensive system which has been fine tuned for a decade, i don't think kolb is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. i guess i wouldn't be pissed if we gave up a 3rd rounder cause the risk/reward is easier to swallow, but any team who gives up a 1st for him is f**king retarded.

i'm not sure why people are so infatuated with him. he has had one of the top 5 best sets of receivers, a pass happy coach and was able to sit for a couple years to learn the system. all that and he still wasn't really impressive

The Eagles also surrendered a s**t ton of sacks as the OL was in shambles. Kolb was sacked 15 times in 5 starts last year. He had a decent outing vs Washington, a slightly better one vs us the following week then a great one vs the Falcons before a not so hot performance vs Washington. Then coming out of the bye they went back to Vick, not exactly stability for a young QB or his confidence.

If you go back and watch Aaron Rodgers in his first year as a starter he didn't light the world on fire in those first few starts, nor did Carson Palmer who are 2 other QB's who had a chance to sit and learn (and both QB's were highly regarded compared to Kolb coming out of college).

Again he has a buzz across the league and not just from the media, but also other NFL teams who have legit interest, all of whom know more than we do. There is a reason why many teams are interested.

sounds like the same type of excuses alex smith gets here. we might as well keep alex smith if we're just going to give guys a pass over o-line, receivers, coaching or whatever.

erron rodgers sat behind a hall of famer and was in the same offensive system for a number of years. kolb will not have been in the same system. you are very naive if you think the eagles west coast is the 49ers west coast. maybe some of the terminology might be the same but this isn't madden football where you magically plug in a qb into any system and he is the same qb he was elsewhere.

as i said before no one is going to give up a 1st for him and if they do they're f**king stupid. this is why i hope the seachickens get him by trading their 1st!

AARON Rodgers sat behind Favre, Kolb sat behind McNabb (not a HoF'er but an All Pro QB). They both sat behind some very good QB's and had a chance to learn. And Rodgers first year in the league was with Mike Sherman not Mike McCarthy so 2 different playbooks.

Our offense will be somewhat similar yet somewhat different than the Eagles offense. We plan to be a more balanced attack, however both are West Coast versed, thus the concept is very similar. Going from one WCO to another WCO is not nearly the transition from going from a WCO to a Coryell offense.

You are very right this ISN'T Madden, you can't plug a QB in, regardless of whether he sat for a year or two and expect him to begin playing at a high level. He still has to gain in game experience....again Kolb has 7 career starts. 7. SEVEN. SEVEN. SEVEN.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Why is there an apparent interest by some teams in the league to acquire Kolb ? Why is it that Larry Fitzgerald wants Kolb ?

Why is it that Philly actually believes they can get a 1st round pick for him?

Apparently the people sitting on their asses and posting on 49erswebzone.com know a lot more than those idiots who get paid to know football.
Wait, so did I read that McNabb was a system QB? ROFLMAO!!!
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Why is there an apparent interest by some teams in the league to acquire Kolb ? Why is it that Larry Fitzgerald wants Kolb ?

Why is it that Philly actually believes they can get a 1st round pick for him?

Apparently the people sitting on their asses and posting on 49erswebzone.com know a lot more than those idiots who get paid to know football.

Cause some team apparently offered a first for him! lol now they want a top 10 pick, haha ~~()
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Kolb is a system qb. The eagles have duped teams before and it looks like they will again

And how do you know he is a system QB, considering he has only played in one NFL system and has 7 career starts ? If he is a system QB however then that system is the same that we plan on running, the WCO.

yeah, just like washington runs the west coast. mcnabb worked out real well.

and i can't say with 100% certainty that he is a system qb. but given the eagles history of fleecing teams out of picks for washed up or crappy qb's masked by their offensive system which has been fine tuned for a decade, i don't think kolb is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. i guess i wouldn't be pissed if we gave up a 3rd rounder cause the risk/reward is easier to swallow, but any team who gives up a 1st for him is f**king retarded.

i'm not sure why people are so infatuated with him. he has had one of the top 5 best sets of receivers, a pass happy coach and was able to sit for a couple years to learn the system. all that and he still wasn't really impressive

The Eagles also surrendered a s**t ton of sacks as the OL was in shambles. Kolb was sacked 15 times in 5 starts last year. He had a decent outing vs Washington, a slightly better one vs us the following week then a great one vs the Falcons before a not so hot performance vs Washington. Then coming out of the bye they went back to Vick, not exactly stability for a young QB or his confidence.

If you go back and watch Aaron Rodgers in his first year as a starter he didn't light the world on fire in those first few starts, nor did Carson Palmer who are 2 other QB's who had a chance to sit and learn (and both QB's were highly regarded compared to Kolb coming out of college).

Again he has a buzz across the league and not just from the media, but also other NFL teams who have legit interest, all of whom know more than we do. There is a reason why many teams are interested.

sounds like the same type of excuses alex smith gets here. we might as well keep alex smith if we're just going to give guys a pass over o-line, receivers, coaching or whatever.

erron rodgers sat behind a hall of famer and was in the same offensive system for a number of years. kolb will not have been in the same system. you are very naive if you think the eagles west coast is the 49ers west coast. maybe some of the terminology might be the same but this isn't madden football where you magically plug in a qb into any system and he is the same qb he was elsewhere.

as i said before no one is going to give up a 1st for him and if they do they're f**king stupid. this is why i hope the seachickens get him by trading their 1st!

AARON Rodgers sat behind Favre, Kolb sat behind McNabb (not a HoF'er but an All Pro QB). They both sat behind some very good QB's and had a chance to learn. And Rodgers first year in the league was with Mike Sherman not Mike McCarthy so 2 different playbooks.

Our offense will be somewhat similar yet somewhat different than the Eagles offense. We plan to be a more balanced attack, however both are West Coast versed, thus the concept is very similar. Going from one WCO to another WCO is not nearly the transition from going from a WCO to a Coryell offense.

You are very right this ISN'T Madden, you can't plug a QB in, regardless of whether he sat for a year or two and expect him to begin playing at a high level. He still has to gain in game experience....again Kolb has 7 career starts. 7. SEVEN. SEVEN. SEVEN.

well the "only 7 starts!" debate can go either way:

A. he hasn't had enough time to blossom
B. the success he HAS had will go down when more teams get film on him and discover his tendencies

i'm not saying kolb has no value at all, but he is not worth a 1st round pick and i wouldn't give up a 2nd for him either. he is a 26 year old backup who has shown flashes but overall has been extremely average. you can talk about potential all you want but he is what he is right now and that should determine his worth.

i would rather trade a lower pick for palmer or even pickup mark bulger off the street while we groom a rookie.
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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Kolb is a system qb. The eagles have duped teams before and it looks like they will again

And how do you know he is a system QB, considering he has only played in one NFL system and has 7 career starts ? If he is a system QB however then that system is the same that we plan on running, the WCO.

yeah, just like washington runs the west coast. mcnabb worked out real well.

and i can't say with 100% certainty that he is a system qb. but given the eagles history of fleecing teams out of picks for washed up or crappy qb's masked by their offensive system which has been fine tuned for a decade, i don't think kolb is worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. i guess i wouldn't be pissed if we gave up a 3rd rounder cause the risk/reward is easier to swallow, but any team who gives up a 1st for him is f**king retarded.

i'm not sure why people are so infatuated with him. he has had one of the top 5 best sets of receivers, a pass happy coach and was able to sit for a couple years to learn the system. all that and he still wasn't really impressive

The Eagles also surrendered a s**t ton of sacks as the OL was in shambles. Kolb was sacked 15 times in 5 starts last year. He had a decent outing vs Washington, a slightly better one vs us the following week then a great one vs the Falcons before a not so hot performance vs Washington. Then coming out of the bye they went back to Vick, not exactly stability for a young QB or his confidence.

If you go back and watch Aaron Rodgers in his first year as a starter he didn't light the world on fire in those first few starts, nor did Carson Palmer who are 2 other QB's who had a chance to sit and learn (and both QB's were highly regarded compared to Kolb coming out of college).

Again he has a buzz across the league and not just from the media, but also other NFL teams who have legit interest, all of whom know more than we do. There is a reason why many teams are interested.

sounds like the same type of excuses alex smith gets here. we might as well keep alex smith if we're just going to give guys a pass over o-line, receivers, coaching or whatever.

erron rodgers sat behind a hall of famer and was in the same offensive system for a number of years. kolb will not have been in the same system. you are very naive if you think the eagles west coast is the 49ers west coast. maybe some of the terminology might be the same but this isn't madden football where you magically plug in a qb into any system and he is the same qb he was elsewhere.

as i said before no one is going to give up a 1st for him and if they do they're f**king stupid. this is why i hope the seachickens get him by trading their 1st!

AARON Rodgers sat behind Favre, Kolb sat behind McNabb (not a HoF'er but an All Pro QB). They both sat behind some very good QB's and had a chance to learn. And Rodgers first year in the league was with Mike Sherman not Mike McCarthy so 2 different playbooks.

Our offense will be somewhat similar yet somewhat different than the Eagles offense. We plan to be a more balanced attack, however both are West Coast versed, thus the concept is very similar. Going from one WCO to another WCO is not nearly the transition from going from a WCO to a Coryell offense.

You are very right this ISN'T Madden, you can't plug a QB in, regardless of whether he sat for a year or two and expect him to begin playing at a high level. He still has to gain in game experience....again Kolb has 7 career starts. 7. SEVEN. SEVEN. SEVEN.

well the "only 7 starts!" debate can go either way:

A. he hasn't had enough time to blossom
B. the success he HAS had will go down when more teams get film on him and discover his tendencies

i'm not saying kolb has no value at all, but he is not worth a 1st round pick and i wouldn't give up a 2nd for him either. he is a 26 year old backup who has shown flashes but overall has been extremely average. you can talk about potential all you want but he is what he is right now and that should determine his worth.

i would rather trade a lower pick for palmer or even pickup mark bulger off the street while we groom a rookie.

Do you think an NFL team in need of a QB is more likely to look at it from point A or point B ? It's obvious they understand and will acknowledge point B but ultimately will look at point A and decide whether point A is true or not by what they see on tape.

With young players worth is determined by upside/potential, not just what they are right now. It's a little of both but potential and upside play a role. That's the business. Again Kolb showed improvement 3 consecutive weeks before having a bad week in his 4 consecutive starts this year, he also improved in his second consecutive start in 2009 after a so so performance the week prior.
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Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Why is there an apparent interest by some teams in the league to acquire Kolb ? Why is it that Larry Fitzgerald wants Kolb ?

Why is it that Philly actually believes they can get a 1st round pick for him?

Apparently the people sitting on their asses and posting on 49erswebzone.com know a lot more than those idiots who get paid to know football.

Cause some team apparently offered a first for him! lol now they want a top 10 pick, haha ~~()

Actually the original asking price was higher than just a first, before it was rumored to be lower. It's not cause some team offered a first. Originally they didn't want to trade Kolb, however he wants to earn a chance to start.

The Eagles obviously believe they can get more for Kolb than the opinion of some fans who have placed their own value on him. From what we know it appears some teams may be willing to pay close to if not the actual asking price the Eagles want.

And where was it said they want a top 10 pick for Kolb ?
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Why is there an apparent interest by some teams in the league to acquire Kolb ? Why is it that Larry Fitzgerald wants Kolb ?

Why is it that Philly actually believes they can get a 1st round pick for him?

Apparently the people sitting on their asses and posting on 49erswebzone.com know a lot more than those idiots who get paid to know football.

I guess I should point out my sarcasm here.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81f45f37/article/agents-reportedly-want-big-contract-for-kolb-as-part-of-trade?module=HP_headlines
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81f45f37/article/agents-reportedly-want-big-contract-for-kolb-as-part-of-trade?module=HP_headlines

the teams he will probaly got o are

vikings
cardinals
redskins