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Scenario: Keenan Allen falls to #31

Scenario: Keenan Allen falls to #31

Originally posted by hofer36:
allen seems to be very similar to crabtree in terms of playing style...do the niners want their top two receivers to be of similar traits or would they better be served by having a #2 receiver whose game is different (and complementary) to Crabtree's such as a speed guy

Why do people always say this? Do teams have defensive backs that are exactly the same all across the board? It doesn't matter if you have two similar receivers as long as they are both highly talented, quality players. You can still have a #3 WR who is a deep threat. If you told me the 49ers could have 2 Crabtree's out on the field at the same time, I'd say "hell yeah."
I vote a big time NO. Like the other guys have said, we have more pressing needs. I fully expect our top two picks will be DL and Safety with an outside chance of TE if Ertz is there.

We can grab a quality WR in the 3rd round: Rogers, Patton or Woods.
This is an interesting dilemma in the wake of what has happened. Although Boldin is only signed for a year, we appear to have a bit of a jam at receiver. Crabtree and Boldin already appear to be formidable. Throw in Manningham, Jenkins, and Kyle Williams and we have a pretty solid group. To go and add another receiver like Allen or one of the other top receivers in the with one of our first three picks may seem like much, but I think it prepares us for a few things- like Manningham not recovering, if AJ Jenkins doesn't pan out, Anquan Boldin retiring after this season, or something that seems unthinkable at the present time- Michael Crabtree not remaining with the team (stranger things have happened).

I expect us at the end of the day to go BPA.
Originally posted by pete98146:
I vote a big time NO. Like the other guys have said, we have more pressing needs. I fully expect our top two picks will be DL and Safety with an outside chance of TE if Ertz is there.

We can grab a quality WR in the 3rd round: Rogers, Patton or Woods.
Yeah I think literally none of those guys will be around in the 3rd, possibly Woods, but Patton and Rogers are both gone in the 2nd.
BPA. At 31 he is
Keenan was unable to perform at his Pro Day. Will he be available at #31?

Looks like another Crabtree situation with injuries before the draft. Boldin, Mario, and KW will all be FA next year, and Crabs will need anew contract the following year.

If he is available at #31, I hope they draft him as he should be BAP.
Definatly yes, in fact if he ladt until after 15 we should definatly move up for him
Sure looks like teams are beginning to put a premium on the value of WRs.

Gee, I do hope that Boldin is more than just a one year stop-gap. The Niners did give up a sixth for him, after all. He would be a great leader and locker room presence who I'd like to see around for at least two and possibly three years. He's one of those types that takes care of himself and would be top tier well into his thirties, I feel.

As for Allen: Doubtless a great prospect; very much a Crabtree type and therefore a good addition for the Niners. But honestly, I feel that the Niners need to concentrate their first couple of picks on defense. DL and DB. Then I just feel that Da'Rick Rogers would be a good pick-up whereever they see the value for him. He could potentially be as productive as Allen for the Niners.

So: Keep Boldin in the fold for three years. Draft Rogers to learn under Boldin. See if Jenkins steps up his game to the level the Niners expect from him.
@Rotoworld_Draft Mayock times Keenan Allen at 4.71, 4.75


thats f**kin slow for a WR
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 52s Oof RT @Gil_Brandt: Disappointing times for Kennan Allen at pro day, but not certain he was a first-rounder anyway. #NFLDraft
Wow, may be he will drop like Randle did last year.
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Bad news for Keenan Allen today. The times in the 40 are less of a concern than the injury.

Cal WR Keenan Allen ran forty times of 4.71 and 4.75 at his personal Pro Day on Tuesday.


Allen has never been known as a true vertical threat -- he draws comparisons to Miles Austin and Reggie Wayne -- but these times are concerning. Allen suffered a torn left PCL last October 27. He admitted to a setback before February's Scouting Combine and recently told the Sacramento Bee that he's only about 85 percent. It's been over five months since Allen's injury. His medical status may be a greater concern than the slow forty times.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/259439/keenan-allen-runs-471-475-at-pro-day

A torn PCL can easily take a full year to heal completely. Allen might not ready to play until November. That is going to hurt his chances in the draft.

Mario Manningham had both a torn ACL and PCL. Who knows when he will be able to play.
you guys are all having a pipe dream if you think we are going to take a WR at 31.
Originally posted by loyalniner:
I think Allen has little (to none) upside opposite Crabtree. Not saying he wouldn't be productive. But I think we would need either a speed guy (4.35-4.4) or a tall/physical guy (6'3"-6'4") opposite Crabtree. I vote the latter. Seeing as Justin Hunter and Da'Rick Rogers will both be there toward the end of the second, I'd go with one of them. A redzone jump ball guy (maybe then those last few SB plays go better and we win?). Then we get DL or secondary help in the first and still get the type of complementary receiver in the second!


I agree. I rather have a deep ball specialist. I want a tall guy, doesn't have to be the fastest guy, but fast enough to get down field, but most important of all is having the height and leaping ability to go up top to compete for the ball while being double-teamed. Justin Hunter is my pick at 6'4". I would take him at 31st or 34th, he will be gone by the end of 2nd.
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
you guys are all having a pipe dream if you think we are going to take a WR at 31.


Sometimes you just have to go for it !!