Scenario: Keenan Allen falls to #31

that may just knock him out of the 1st round, but I know he's not 100% healthy right now with that knee. It's unfortunate for him because it may cost him a Day 1 selection, but so long as he heals up and is good to go after the draft he'll be a steal for anyone in Day 2. He's not a burner anyways.

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
you guys are all having a pipe dream if you think we are going to take a WR at 31.

Sometimes you just have to go for it !!

sometimes you just have to realize that we didn't win it all b/c of our depth at WR.

Originally posted by valrod33:
@Rotoworld_Draft Mayock times Keenan Allen at 4.71, 4.75


thats f**kin slow for a WR

This. do not want.

Originally posted by buck:
Bad news for Keenan Allen today. The times in the 40 are less of a concern than the injury.

Cal WR Keenan Allen ran forty times of 4.71 and 4.75 at his personal Pro Day on Tuesday.


Allen has never been known as a true vertical threat -- he draws comparisons to Miles Austin and Reggie Wayne -- but these times are concerning. Allen suffered a torn left PCL last October 27. He admitted to a setback before February's Scouting Combine and recently told the Sacramento Bee that he's only about 85 percent. It's been over five months since Allen's injury. His medical status may be a greater concern than the slow forty times.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/259439/keenan-allen-runs-471-475-at-pro-day

A torn PCL can easily take a full year to heal completely. Allen might not ready to play until November. That is going to hurt his chances in the draft.

Mario Manningham had both a torn ACL and PCL. Who knows when he will be able to play.

That's what I thought. When I watched his tape, I hardly saw any deep balls. For me, I want a legit deep threat receiver.

If it really takes that long for a PCL to heal, then it makes it even more critical that we take a wideout in the draft.

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
you guys are all having a pipe dream if you think we are going to take a WR at 31.

Sometimes you just have to go for it !!

sometimes you just have to realize that we didn't win it all b/c of our depth at WR.

Sometimes you just have to know we are a couple of weapons shy from winning the Super Bowl and not an extra D-lineman to add depth.

An extra D-lineman is not going to score 23 points for you when you are down by 22 points.

No defense in this world can totally shut down a great offense. Even the Seahawks with their best secondary in the league got torched by Roddy White and Julio Jones. What do you do then ? You need an explosive offense that can keep up the scoring and ultimately outscore your opponents to win football games.

And just remember one thing, "defense doesn't win championships" anymore. That was in the distant past.

Originally posted by Rascal:

I agree. I rather have a deep ball specialist. I want a tall guy, doesn't have to be the fastest guy, but fast enough to get down field, but most important of all is having the height and leaping ability to go up top to compete for the ball while being double-teamed. Justin Hunter is my pick at 6'4". I would take him at 31st or 34th, he will be gone by the end of 2nd.

I'm not interested in Hunter at all. If HarBaalke thought AJ needed to bulk up to play in the NFL, what will they say about a twig like Hunter? Dude is slower than AJ, has less consistent hands, and an even slighter build. If all you want is jump ball ability, why not take Eifert or Escobar and get more out of the deal in a position that has more snaps available?

Originally posted by buck:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
We need D lineman...but it's simply not true that they have to be first rounders. They need to be capable of playing a few snaps a game and transition to starter In a year or two. They do not have to start day 1 which translates to later rounds. A wideout in our offense could start opposite Crabs in a heart beat, and a first round pick here is far from a waste...especially if its a higher level talent that slips

I basically agree. But, most likely, we will need a nose tackle capable of starting on day one.

We should not need a defensive end to start this year. We do have two starters.

We could use a starting wide receiver to go with Crabtree.

edit: Boldin reduces the need for a WR next year only.

fixed

Pick him at 34

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I'm not interested in Hunter at all. If HarBaalke thought AJ needed to bulk up to play in the NFL, what will they say about a twig like Hunter? Dude is slower than AJ, has less consistent hands, and an even slighter build. If all you want is jump ball ability, why not take Eifert or Escobar and get more out of the deal in a position that has more snaps available?

Oh, I want a TE too. I am going WR, TE, DB and DL. I am going against the grain and I have my reasons which I have stated in various threads here.

Don't worry about Hunter being skinny, he has the same body type as Randy Moss. Being slower than AJ Jenkins is not a big issue as long as you can make plays. I am yet to see a Jenkins tape that impresses me. Hunter is the right guy and at the right position to be picked at 31st as well.

Then, for 34th, I am going with Zach Ertz, if Tyler Eifert is gone. Actually, both are very close.

Then, trade up from 61st to bag David Amerson.

D-lineman in the 3rd.

Originally posted by valrod33:
@Rotoworld_Draft Mayock times Keenan Allen at 4.71, 4.75


thats f**kin slow for a WR

Anquan Boldin and Jerry Rice say Sup.


That is dumb ass slow though. I think he's still hurt. He'll be there when we pick now. Think we pass as well.

I take his slow ass in the third if he's still there.

he's still recoverign from a PCL injury, u see the tape he's not a 4.7 slow guy. he's fast enough, he's very quick for a guy his size, agility w/ that size is awesome when you can run real good routes, its more important than top end speed to me

Would be ecstatic if we took him at #31 or #34.

Originally posted by iLL49er:
he's still recoverign from a PCL injury, u see the tape he's not a 4.7 slow guy. he's fast enough, he's very quick for a guy his size, agility w/ that size is awesome when you can run real good routes, its more important than top end speed to me

Yeah it must be the injury man. He looks at least like a 4.5's guy on tape.

nigha slow as s**t