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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Not many needs so we could always New England this draft.

really depends on FA

TE S OLB NT can all be needs i first round

tj I agree with NE approach

49ersAllDaWay, I can see OLB, but I wouldn't touch a TE unless it's Eifert, which likely is gone by late 1st. I know some don't want a 1st rd OL, but if Jones falls, I woul snatch him up.

I said no NT because even in 2011 Sopoaga didn't play every down, maybe he will play more this week so we may get a better feel. If we plan on NT, then Hankins, Jenkins are likely.

I would go FS though. Goldson isn't worth 7M or the 8M he wants.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
too early for rankings IMO, we are just starting to get into the meat of the schedule in CFB.

just fun to track

Yeah but I think its dangerous becuase you begin to rank a player high purely because you ranked him high to begin with and not based on his performance.

Take Kniles Davis for example, what exactly has he done this year to warrant being the the 29th best player in the draft and #2 RB? He has looked awful since returning from his broken ankle (okay maybe awful is too strong, but definately not the #2 back status).

Meanwhile you got a guy like Johnathan Franklin tearing it up. The way Franklin looks, I'd be pretty surprised if he isnt a late 1st rounder or 2nd rounder. Have you seen what he has been doing? It will be great to see him up against the Beavers D.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
tj I agree with NE approach

49ersAllDaWay, I can see OLB, but I wouldn't touch a TE unless it's Eifert, which likely is gone by late 1st. I know some don't want a 1st rd OL, but if Jones falls, I woul snatch him up.

I said no NT because even in 2011 Sopoaga didn't play every down, maybe he will play more this week so we may get a better feel. If we plan on NT, then Hankins, Jenkins are likely.

I would go FS though. Goldson isn't worth 7M or the 8M he wants.

TE is if we lose walker in FA we will need a TE early

NT last 2 games we were in nickel the whole game everyother game we will be in base defense

and agree on FS
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
tj I agree with NE approach

49ersAllDaWay, I can see OLB, but I wouldn't touch a TE unless it's Eifert, which likely is gone by late 1st. I know some don't want a 1st rd OL, but if Jones falls, I woul snatch him up.

I said no NT because even in 2011 Sopoaga didn't play every down, maybe he will play more this week so we may get a better feel. If we plan on NT, then Hankins, Jenkins are likely.

I would go FS though. Goldson isn't worth 7M or the 8M he wants.

TE is if we lose walker in FA we will need a TE early

NT last 2 games we were in nickel the whole game everyother game we will be in base defense

and agree on FS

I would go Eifert due to his ability, but not sure he will make it there.I want Walker back, I don't see him comanding a big deal, so It shouldn't be a big challenge.
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ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo

Old Dominion QB Taylor Heinicke sets Division I record (FBS, FCS) with 730 yards passing in 64-61 win over New Hampshire

Height / Weight:
6-1 / 195

Class:
Sophomore

College Football Performance Awards National Performer of the Year...CFPA Freshman Performer of the Year and winner of the CFPA Quarterback Award...Runner-up for the Jerry Rice Award by The Sports Network, awarded to the National Freshman of the Year..Named to the Sports Journal All-Freshman Team...Third Team All-CAA honoree...Two-time National Freshman of the Week by The Sports Network...Three-time CAA Rookie of the Week...

2011: 25 TDs 1 INT 68.7% 2385 yards

2012: 82 of 124 passes for 1,191 yards,14 touchdowns & four interceptions. He leads the FCS in points responsible for (30 per game), is second in total offense (441.67 yards) and third in passing efficiency (177.62).

http://www.odusports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/heinicke_taylor00.html
[ Edited by Jcool on Sep 22, 2012 at 1:44 PM ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo

Old Dominion QB Taylor Heinicke sets Division I record (FBS, FCS) with 730 yards passing in 64-61 win over New Hampshire

Height / Weight:
6-1 / 195

Class:
Sophomore

College Football Performance Awards National Performer of the Year...CFPA Freshman Performer of the Year and winner of the CFPA Quarterback Award...Runner-up for the Jerry Rice Award by The Sports Network, awarded to the National Freshman of the Year..Named to the Sports Journal All-Freshman Team...Third Team All-CAA honoree...Two-time National Freshman of the Week by The Sports Network...Three-time CAA Rookie of the Week...

2011: 25 TDs 1 INT 68.7% 2385 yards

2012: 82 of 124 passes for 1,191 yards,14 touchdowns & four interceptions. He leads the FCS in points responsible for (30 per game), is second in total offense (441.67 yards) and third in passing efficiency (177.62).

http://www.odusports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/heinicke_taylor00.html

Wow hell of a game for this kid.
Found a gold mine. I missed the Stanford-USC game and just re-watched it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc3foRe3ylI&list=PLD11BA2EDA0F452DE&index=10&feature=plpp_video

Click on the guy's account, he has several games posted.

Stanford D vs. USC O

Player that most jumps out to me is #49 Ben Gardner, DE on Stanford. He is currently a junior, as a sophmore he made 2nd team PAC-12. Dude is a MENACE.

Also QB Barkley does not look that good. At his interception at 11 minute mark, watch how he stares at the blitzer, turns his head and throws straight into coverage. Talk about rattling a QB. He looks undersized as well.

I think Marquise Lee might be better then Woods.

C Khaled Holmes looks great out there, the lone bright spot on USC's O-Line

OLB Chase Thomas looks to me like a mid rounder.

Stanford O vs. USC D
-Check out the block by TE Toilolo at about 2:35
-Stepfan Taylor reminds me of a slower version of Doug Martin
-TE Toilolo then with an outstanding catch at 4:40
-Want a night and day difference? compare Stanford's 2 guards to USC's 2 guards
-CB Nickell Robley is one heck of a player, but I think he is only like 5'7, a good example is at 7:45 he is too small to get off the block and play the screen
-S TJ McDonald's blitz forces an interception at 6:50, he had a decent game but I'd rather judge him against a more pass oriented team
-One of Stanford's guards I liked was #76 Kevin Danser, a junior, moves extremely well in space, he plays teh RG position DeCastro vacated
-Their center #64 also looks pretty good
-At about 12:50 you can see how they use Danser and Toilolo to execute a great screen pass
-I know a lot of people like Toilolo but I'm a bit down on his route running ability, it will be tough for him to make it as a recieving TE, but he looks like he will be in the NFL as a blocking TE and situational mis-match.
-TE Zach Ertz looks very fluid and comfortable running routes
So 5 days saying its dangerous to rank players early, i will now rank some players!!!!

1. Luke Joeckel*, OT, Texas A&M
2. Sam Montgomery*, DE, LSU
3. Johnthan Banks, CB, Miss St
4. Eric Reid*, S, LSU
5. KaWann Short, DT, Pudue
6. Manti Te'O, ILB, Notre Dame
7. Jarvis Jones*, OLB Georgia
8. Keenan Allen*, WR, Cal
9. Bjoern Werner*, DE, FSU
10. Terrence Williams, WR, Baylor
11. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
12. James Hurst*, OT, North Carolina
13. Corey Lemonier*, OLB, Auburn
13. Barkevious Mingo*, OLB, LSU
14. David Amerson*, CB, NC State
15. EJ Manuel, QB, Florida St

Notes:
-Luke Joeckel may be a surprise to be my #1, but I think he is the clear cut top LT
-I think Banks is the whole package as a CB and is as athletic and physical as and CB in CFB. Throw in a knack for play making ability and you have a top 5 pick
-KaWann Short I think is the top DT, he has both the ability to take on double teams and collapse the pocket or to penetrate and pass rush
-Bjoern Werner has to be one of the fastest rising prospects, guy has been an absoloute non-stop beast
-Star I'm a bit dissapointed with how his season is going
-James Hurst is a guy I'm going out on a limb for, he is a bit inconsistent at times but if he comes out this year you are going to hear a lot of "potential" and "high ceiling" terms thrown at him
-Terrance Williams is a surprise to be ranked so high, and he will probably fall in later rankings. But what I like about him is how strong and physical he is, I tihnk he could be a future YAC monster because he is tough to bring down and fights for yards
-Amerson is a pure ball hawk at corner, but his tackling is piss poor
-thats right, my top QB is EJ Manuel. His combination of size, arm strength, quick release and mobility is truly impressive
Some more ST guys...

Ace Sanders
#1 WR
Junior
South Carolina Gamecocks




Dustin Harris
#22 DB
Senior
Texas A&M Aggies




Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

7. Jarvis Jones*, OLB Georgia

9. Bjoern Werner*, DE, FSU
if we can find away to keep Goldson and still have cash for Bowman....I would trade up for either guy
Matt Miller rankings:

3-4 Defensive Ends

1. William Gholston - Michigan State - Junior - 6'6" 278 lbs (No. 42 overall)

2. Kawann Short - Purdue - Redshirt Senior - 6'3" 315 lbs (No. 43)

3. Margus Hunt - Southern Methodist - Redshirt Senior - 6'7" 280 lbs (No. 45)

4. Sharrif Floyd - Florida - Junior - 6'3" 303 lbs (No. 52)

5. Bennie Logan - LSU - Redshirt Junior - 6'3" 295 lbs (No. 65)

6. Josh Boyd - Mississippi State - Senior - 6'3" 300 lbs (No. 107)

7. Datone Jones - UCLA - Redshirt Senior - 6'4" 275 lbs (No. 122)

8. Abry Jones - Georgia - Senior - 6'3" 308 lbs (No. 131)

9. Malliciah Goodman - Clemson - Senior - 6'4" 280 lbs (No. 137)

10. Craig Roh - Michigan - Senior - 6'4" 280 lbs (No. 140)

11. Kapron Lewis-Moore - Notre Dame - Redshirt Senior - 6'4" 306 lbs (No. 183)

Nose Tackles

1. John Jenkins - Georgia - Senior - 6'3" 358 lbs (No. 25 overall)

2. Sylvester Williams - North Carolina - Senior - 6'3" 320 lbs (No. 27)

3. Jesse Williams - Alabama - Senior - 6'3" 320 lbs (No. 38)

4. Anthony Rashad White - Michigan State - Senior - 6'2" 330 lbs (No. 159)

5. Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2" 328 lbs (No. 200)

6. Anthony McCloud - Florida State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2" 322 lbs (No. 288)

3-4 OLB

1. Jarvis Jones - Georgia - Redshirt Junior - 6'2" 242 lbs (No. 1 overall)

2. Sam Montgomery - LSU - Redshirt Junior - 6'5" 260 lbs (No. 2)

3. Barkevious Mingo - LSU - Redshirt Junior - 6'4" 240 lbs (No. 4)

4. Bjoern Werner - Florida State - Junior - 6'4" 256 lbs (No. 11)

5. Jackson Jeffcoat - Texas - Junior - 6'5" 245 lbs (No. 15)

6. C.J. Mosley - Alabama - Junior - 6'2" 232 lbs (No. 28)

7. Alex Okafor - Texas - Senior - 6'5" 265 lbs (No. 30)

8. Corey Lemonier - Auburn - Junior - 6'3" 242 lbs (No. 34)

9. Michael Buchanan - Illinois - Senior - 6'5" 240 lbs (No. 44)

10. John Simon - Ohio State - Senior - 6'2" 260 lbs (No. 46)

11. Chase Thomas - Stanford - Redshirt Senior - 6'4" 248 lbs (No. 49)

12. Cornellius Carradine - Florida State - Senior - 6'4" 265 lbs (No. 66)

13. Sean Porter - Texas A&M - Senior - 6'2" 230 lbs (No. 67)

14. Dion Jordan - Oregon - Redshirt Senior - 6'6" 243 lbs (No. 73)

15. Devin Taylor - South Carolina - Redshirt Senior - 6'7" 267 lbs (No. 90)
Ace Sanders with another big return tonight.......WANT THIS KID
Originally posted by jreff22:
Matt Miller rankings:


Nose Tackles

1. John Jenkins - Georgia - Senior - 6'3" 358 lbs (No. 25 overall)

2. Sylvester Williams - North Carolina - Senior - 6'3" 320 lbs (No. 27)

3. Jesse Williams - Alabama - Senior - 6'3" 320 lbs (No. 38)

4. Anthony Rashad White - Michigan State - Senior - 6'2" 330 lbs (No. 159)

5. Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2" 328 lbs (No. 200)

6. Anthony McCloud - Florida State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2" 322 lbs (No. 288)


Apparently, people with the last name of Williams are good Nose Tackles.
Originally posted by Bootlegger:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Matt Miller rankings:


Nose Tackles

1. John Jenkins - Georgia - Senior - 6'3" 358 lbs (No. 25 overall)

2. Sylvester Williams - North Carolina - Senior - 6'3" 320 lbs (No. 27)

3. Jesse Williams - Alabama - Senior - 6'3" 320 lbs (No. 38)

4. Anthony Rashad White - Michigan State - Senior - 6'2" 330 lbs (No. 159)

5. Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2" 328 lbs (No. 200)

6. Anthony McCloud - Florida State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2" 322 lbs (No. 288)

Apparently, people with the last name of Williams are good Nose Tackles.

no need to waste a draft pick then
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Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by Bootlegger:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Matt Miller rankings:


Nose Tackles

1. John Jenkins - Georgia - Senior - 6'3" 358 lbs (No. 25 overall)

2. Sylvester Williams - North Carolina - Senior - 6'3" 320 lbs (No. 27)

3. Jesse Williams - Alabama - Senior - 6'3" 320 lbs (No. 38)

4. Anthony Rashad White - Michigan State - Senior - 6'2" 330 lbs (No. 159)

5. Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2" 328 lbs (No. 200)

6. Anthony McCloud - Florida State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2" 322 lbs (No. 288)

Apparently, people with the last name of Williams are good Nose Tackles.

no need to waste a draft pick then