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49ers power player in 2013 draft

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
bowman isn't going anywhere.

For some reason I don't see the 49ers paying 2 ILB's Top 5 money, which Bowman will command, I assure you. Its why the Ravens had to part ways with Bart Scott.....just too much cash tied up at one position.

Technically it won't be top 5 each, as Willis has no bonus money left, he will get an extension, but not anytime soon, signed through 2016, where Bowman will be extended most likely after 2012 season, if not mid 2013 season. I imagine the team wants to see and make sure 2011 wasn't a one year wonder type thing before handing over 40M to him. Same will be said for Aldon, he will be extend after 2013, and make sure he is worth the money, I think he is, just gotta be sure he isn't a 1 year wonder.

looking at 2014-2017, we don't have many signed long terms, just the following.

Carlos Rogers (2015) - Extended in 2012
Ahmad Brooks (2017) - Extended in 2012
Joe Staley (2017) - Has no bonus money left, just annual $695K roster bonuses
Patrick Willis (2016) - Has no bonus left, just annual $500K roster bonuses, and $500K workout bonuses.
Alex Boone (2015) - Small deal, $600K roster bonus in 2013, and $400K in 2014 and 2015
Vernon Davis (2015) - Limited bonus left, and just $600K combined between Workout and Roster bonuses each year
Alex Smith (2014) - Contract is an easy out
Aldon Smith (2014) - Fully guaranteed, will need extension after 2013 to avoid top 10 payment as a OLB
C.J. Spillman(2014) - Small deal
Brian Jennings (2014) - Limited bonus, likely done/retired after 2014
and guys like Kendall Hunter, Chris Culliver, Bruce Miller, Daniel Kilgore, Colin Kaepernick, all through 2014, with limited bonuses, Miller and Culliver will be must re-signs.

And then the 2012 class, Jenkins, James, Looney, Fleming, Robinson, Slowey and Johnson are signed though 2015 when signed, and Jenkins will be top 20 or 25 at WR come end of 2014 season, beginning of 2015 league year.

So Bowman will be signing that should happen. Next year though, we have Sopoaga, Jean Francois, Lee, Walker and Goldson as main 5 unsigned for 2013, so those are top priorities for 2013 before Bowman.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Technically it won't be top 5 each, as Willis has no bonus money left, he will get an extension, but not anytime soon, signed through 2016, where Bowman will be extended most likely after 2012 season, if not mid 2013 season. I imagine the team wants to see and make sure 2011 wasn't a one year wonder type thing before handing over 40M to him. Same will be said for Aldon, he will be extend after 2013, and make sure he is worth the money, I think he is, just gotta be sure he isn't a 1 year wonder.

looking at 2014-2017, we don't have many signed long terms, just the following.

Carlos Rogers (2015) - Extended in 2012
Ahmad Brooks (2017) - Extended in 2012
Joe Staley (2017) - Has no bonus money left, just annual $695K roster bonuses
Patrick Willis (2016) - Has no bonus left, just annual $500K roster bonuses, and $500K workout bonuses.
Alex Boone (2015) - Small deal, $600K roster bonus in 2013, and $400K in 2014 and 2015
Vernon Davis (2015) - Limited bonus left, and just $600K combined between Workout and Roster bonuses each year
Alex Smith (2014) - Contract is an easy out
Aldon Smith (2014) - Fully guaranteed, will need extension after 2013 to avoid top 10 payment as a OLB
C.J. Spillman(2014) - Small deal
Brian Jennings (2014) - Limited bonus, likely done/retired after 2014
and guys like Kendall Hunter, Chris Culliver, Bruce Miller, Daniel Kilgore, Colin Kaepernick, all through 2014, with limited bonuses, Miller and Culliver will be must re-signs.

And then the 2012 class, Jenkins, James, Looney, Fleming, Robinson, Slowey and Johnson are signed though 2015 when signed, and Jenkins will be top 20 or 25 at WR come end of 2014 season, beginning of 2015 league year.

So Bowman will be signing that should happen. Next year though, we have Sopoaga, Jean Francois, Lee, Walker and Goldson as main 5 unsigned for 2013, so those are top priorities for 2013 before Bowman.

thank you, AB
Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
thank you, AB

No problem. It really shouldn't be an issue. I doubt he will ask more than Willis, and I am sure he enjoys playing with Willis, so I am all for 45M deal when ready.

I'm thinking we may be looking to life after Goldson, since there has been no news on an extension for him. He has had 2 good to great seasons last 2 years, I am for an extension, in the 35M range over 5 seasons.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
thank you, AB

No problem. It really shouldn't be an issue. I doubt he will ask more than Willis, and I am sure he enjoys playing with Willis, so I am all for 45M deal when ready.

I'm thinking we may be looking to life after Goldson, since there has been no news on an extension for him. He has had 2 good to great seasons last 2 years, I am for an extension, in the 35M range over 5 seasons.
Hoping Goldson gets extended too!
i think we go after a DE next year or a CB

i think goldson will get extended


i have a feeling we trade up for a xavier rodes next year he has shut down potential written all over him

if moss produces and we dont resign him we may go after marquess wilson or justin hunter (both huge targets at 6 4)

although i highly doubt we go after WR in first round again
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
thank you, AB

No problem. It really shouldn't be an issue. I doubt he will ask more than Willis, and I am sure he enjoys playing with Willis, so I am all for 45M deal when ready.

I'm thinking we may be looking to life after Goldson, since there has been no news on an extension for him. He has had 2 good to great seasons last 2 years, I am for an extension, in the 35M range over 5 seasons.
Hoping Goldson gets extended too!

With all the draft picks we have and as stable as our defense is, I wouldn't pay Goldson 35M, go out an get a younger rookie who can step in and play from opening day. In the past before the CBA, you would end up spending the same money as it would take to resign Goldson, but now you can go out and get a stud on a four year rookie deal to fill that void. I see a lot of safeties in college right now and in this years draft who could step in and beast with our defense. I guess we have to see how Trent develops as well.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by niners4lyfe:
thank you, AB

No problem. It really shouldn't be an issue. I doubt he will ask more than Willis, and I am sure he enjoys playing with Willis, so I am all for 45M deal when ready.

I'm thinking we may be looking to life after Goldson, since there has been no news on an extension for him. He has had 2 good to great seasons last 2 years, I am for an extension, in the 35M range over 5 seasons.
Hoping Goldson gets extended too!

I hope soon. But wouldn't surprise me if we wait, might feel we can do better, but if we did, I'm sure we would of went FS earlier in draft then 6th round.
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
i think we go after a DE next year or a CB

i think goldson will get extended


i have a feeling we trade up for a xavier rodes next year he has shut down potential written all over him

if moss produces and we dont resign him we may go after marquess wilson or justin hunter (both huge targets at 6 4)

although i highly doubt we go after WR in first round again

I also don't think WR in round 1 is likely. Big thing is with the new CBA, with every 1st round pick, you pay him a 5th year option at either top 10 or top 20/25, if of course you pick the option up. So would make sense to not overload on one position on 1st rounders, so Aldon Smith should be the only OLB drafted in rd 1 for the time being.

DE will be a need, not sure when we go that direction, maybe we feel Smith will stay, and get him extended, he is still an elite DE, but we do need insurance for future. I also feel CB is a need. Rogers and Culliver are IMO the 2 best on roster. Brown is a nice CB, 2012 will make it see if he is kept past 2013 when his deal expires.
DE and CB will be high on the list next year. I wouldn't rule out a safety though. Talented 3-4 DEs and Safeties are always on the the board later in the 1st.
We need to draft 2DL, CB, and S with our first four picks.
What about Iupati and Davis? How long are they locked up?
Originally posted by ninergold:
What about Iupati and Davis? How long are they locked up?

2014, need to extend to. Iupati is more important IMO, he is a hell of a LG, need to lock him up to. A.Davis needs to develop a little more before handing over some more money, same with seeing if Bowman was a 1-year wonder, and Aldon also when time comes to exercise his 5th year option.
I am hoping like hell Chilo Rachel steps in and starts for Chicago this season somehow so we can be in line for another possible comp pick.
Originally posted by NC49erfan82:
I am hoping like hell Chilo Rachel steps in and starts for Chicago this season somehow so we can be in line for another possible comp pick.

It's very possible. I'm not sure how the look on the oline right now, but they were hurting last line. They love to get the ball in Forte's hands and Chilo is a very good run blocker. Brandon Marshall's presence should help to open up some running lanes. If Chicago's offense can get it together, they could surprise some people.
The Niners really have to ask themselves whether their focus is quality or quantity when looking at these 11 plus picks. Most of these guys will be In backup roles, as the bulk of the picks are 5th rounders and later. They may want to package a number of these guys to ensure they get the player they want.

Fans are excited about the extra picks accumulated, but teams risk losing a player they really like by moving down, and the net result may be a loss. If it was true, according to some reports, that the team was upset with the Ravens selection of Gino Gradkowski in the 4th round of this draft (the team was looking at him heavily predraft), then the extra selections are not as sweet.

For me, I can see the merit of both positions: accumulating a number of quality backups in case they are not able to re-sign starters makes some sense. However, windows tend to close quickly on teams who are contenders, so maybe the best option is to be more aggressive in getting quality starters at key positions of need by sacrificing a number of draft selections.