Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Originally posted by communist:
i'm still wondering why the cbs page projects him as a 4-5th-rounder.
Only 1 quality season of college football despite starting multiple years. He makes alot of poor reads and throws. Average to weak arm, average accuracy, all while playing in a pro style offense. This was the QB killing games for Iowa that they should have won. Theres a reason why a prototypical sized, pro offense QB is only a 2nd most likely a 3rd day pick. He just isnt very good. Hes a future NFL back up, some teams future Ken Dorsey, Charlie Frye, Curtis Painter type QB.
We won't know exactly how he'll turn out in the NFL, but to say the things you said, makes me wonder if you watched any of his games. He's progressed a lot since last season, shows way better accuracy than you're giving him credit for. One of the things he's gotten better at was making the necessary reads through his drop back. He's also got very good mechanics and footwork. Yes, the last 3-4 games of the season, Iowa flamed out. But not all of that is his fault. His o-line looked like they gave up and some of the playcalling was unheard of.
Stanzi has progressed but not enough to show anyone he can be a nfl starter. He progresseed enough to be just to be drafted. When hes hit n pressured he folds. I can list games and dig up you tube clips to show you. He doesnt have the arm strength to make every throw. He still doesnt have the accuracy, touch and his ability to make quick reads is poor. Even Hawkeye homers will have a hard time saying hes more than a back up at the next level. Hes not going to be any better than Nate,Troy or Alex so where would he fit in SF? Or should we just stock up on more back up QBs like we have been since 2003? Dont man to be rude or anything but the guy just isnt very good when you look at everything about him.
I guess we can agree to disagree. When I watched Stanzi this season, I saw a QB that's matured from last year. He stood tall in the pocket and made quick reads. He showed very good accuracy (evident from his 65% completion percentage). He took more shots down the field. He doesn't have a strong arm, but he can make the necessary throws. Not only that, he's athletic enough to be mobile around the pocket.
Agreed, this kid has good size (not great but certainly good enough to add some more weight as well), I believe he is accurate with the football (65% completion rate?) and yes he did do a good job of checking down and reading the defense as needed. One other thing I liked is that he showed a little wiggle as well and can scramble as needed. I think he has a lot of Tom Brady moxie about him, and while he doesn't have elite arm strength he could be a very good QB overall. Please don't forget that the guy who just shredded our secondary doesn't have a very strong arm in Rivers, but he's very decisive and accurate with the ball.
BTW -- If he folds under pressure, what about the game winning drive against Michigan St. last year as time was winding down? Last year against Penn St. in Happy Valley in the rain, tough environment he helped lead the team to a big win. As much as Iowa fans thought this was going to be a great year, the truth is that it was a rebuilding year on a lot of levels. Several starters on D had to be replaced, the O-line was reloading from a very good group that left a year ago, they missed several running backs over the course of the year, and the Special Teams (KICKERS!) played awful.
When you force a QB to carry the load and dig out of holes constantly (see Arizona game), they are going to have a larger opportunity to make mistakes. Look at where Peyton Manning has been the last few weeks before they balanced up? When teams back off the run and play coverage with a lead, there are more and more defenders who have a chance to make a play on the ball and INT's become much more common. Let me end by saying I think this is going to be a 3rd rd pick and a good value for someone, I just hope it's us.