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Originally posted by Predator85:
Originally posted by Howlett49:
What number is CJ West gonna wear?
90, if NFL allows Buck to switch to 99
Niner Talk » DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts, and back!
Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
For bar trivia purposes QB Philip Rivers played a playoff game on a torn ACL
https://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/292302/that-time-philip-rivers-played-through-a-torn-acl-in-the-playoffs
1) There are varying degrees of an ACL tear, and a "tear" can be a very partial tear or the ligament snapping off altogether
2) Comparing a QB's job and DE's job with the need of a stable knee is absolutely absurd. NFL history is littered with QB's who are not even athletic. Philip Rivers never needed to move much, period. A DE's entire job is based on his ability to explode from his lower body.
3) How did Rivers' perform?
Have you ever torn your ACL? Do you know anyone that has? Well, I have, and I can tell you that you're smoking crack if you think someone can do anything remotely athletic on a knee that has literally zero stability. This is absurd that anyone would even argue this.
Originally posted by Howlett49:
What number is CJ West gonna wear?
Niner Talk » DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts, and back!
Originally posted by SB49er4life:
The way some morons talk about "what an elite HC should do", if the 49ers started high school varsity players and got wrecked, they would use that as an "Ah Ha!" moment to prove that Shanahan isn't a good coach.
Originally posted by Chance:
His superbowl against the Chiefs? I assume you're talking about the most recent one, but either way this revisionist b******t needs to stop. It's easy to scapegoat one person, but our players lost us that game.
Originally posted by SB49er4life:
Originally posted by Cosmo:
Wouldn't have even been that ANYWHERE except in Kyle's system.
Must be why 2 other teams were willing to part with significant draft capital and pay him $28m+/year.
I think Brandon Aiyuk is an idiot, but he was as good of a route runner as there was in the NFL before he blew his knee out, was the #1 WR on an extremely talented offense and was almost always open.
Honestly, these "but Kyle's system" arguments hold 0 merit, because there have been COUNTLESS WR's, RB's TE's and QB's in the 9 years Kyle has been the HC of the 49ers that haven't come close to that production.
The "system" (btw, EVERY single team/coach has a "system") has been used as a weak excuse to denigrate and discredit players people don't like.
Brandon Aiyuk was working out CB's in press man- the "system" doesn't beat man coverage.
"The system" doesn't catch passes"
"The system" doesn't run precise routes.
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
Realistic trade target thread: [Everyone talks about trading for Garret Wilson]
There's a big difference between trading away dudes in their 30s with one year left on their contract vs trading a 26 year-old top 5-6 WR who still has a huge contract. The dead cap number to the Jets would be huge.
All of these teams think they could make the Super Bowl in a couple years. That makes your 26 year-old blue chipper who could help out your 2027 1st round QB untradable.
Khalil Mack is a possibility. A WR who's a good slot and an overall solid #3 is also a possibility. The other team also needs to be willing to trade with the Niners. I think that means no Maxx Crosby.
I wonder if Jim Harbaugh has any say over whether the Chargers will trade with the Niners
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Jennings might be the one guy who you might want to bring in if:
- you're only looking for immediate, short-term starting WR help, assuming he'd fade to a role player as the season progressed.
I almost think they need to find a return guy
Why? Why does that have to be the case? We have Evans who wont be around forever, who we already have to worry about every week because of injuries. We have Deebo who wont be around forever, who's playstyle warrants having a backup plan at all times. We have Stribling who looks great but has never caught a ball in the NFL. We have Pearsall who at this point shouldnt be counted on for anything. And then we have a bunch of low end WRs or practice squad type players.
Why cant it be short term and long term WR help?
Originally posted by sick9erfan:
The Wilson trade is far more complicated due to financials so it could take some time. Its tough too because I think we are happy with a Evans, Deebo, Robinson 123. But can we depend on that at all?
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Jennings might be the one guy who you might want to bring in if:
- you're only looking for immediate, short-term starting WR help, assuming he'd fade to a role player as the season progressed.
I almost think they need to find a return guy
Originally posted by Cosmo:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
The problem with beefing up the WR position is that you probably want to acquire someone who is good enough to start over the guys you have coming back. That means someone who can displace snaps from Robinson, Deebo, and Stribling when he returns. That means you need to go after guys like Wilson. I'm not sure that Brian Thomas is the solution either, he's not playing in Jacksonville for a reason.
Replied before you edited. While I totally agree that I want to swing for the fences for Wilson and not settle for Brian Thomas, Jajuan Jennings or another WR of that level, we have to be realistic about our guys. Deebo is an injury waiting to happen based on his playstyle. Counting on Stribling for anything this season is not something I am willing to do. And Robinson is a difference maker of a WR3/4 once out of every 5 games or so. So honestly, the second/third tier WRs that we could potentially bring in would absolutely help.
I still want Wilson though.
Hilarious that Pearsall has never been mentioned. That guy EVER gonna make it to the field?
Originally posted by Cosmo:
Wouldn't have even been that ANYWHERE except in Kyle's system.
