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Originally posted by Stud:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Most concerning to me are the 49er fans. Probably the worst fans in the NFL.

Then why are you here?

I've been a 49ers fan since 1992. There are several people on this site who I enjoy reading their opinions. But the overwhelming majority of 49er fans on this site love to play the doom and gloom role and its exhausting. It's preseason and people are already giving up hope.

You're free to leave. Nobody is stopping you.

No. Stop that.
Most concerning? That Trent Baalke was allowed to be GM for as long as he was. The lack of depth that we see at certain positions is a direct result of years of terrible drafting. Our current regime is still cleaning up that mess in year 2.
The only position group that really concerns me would be the edges (surprise surprise).I don't think Marsh and Aataochu belong in the starting rotation in any packages, on any team. They look right at home with the 2nd or 3rd stringers honestly. That being said, I know damn well that the FO knows this needs to be improved, but I don't expect them to make any moves unless they see it benefiting the team for the long term. It would be cool to see someone else added, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if we did, but unless the right opportunity is there, I doubt they bring in anyone too noteable. I'm ok with that though.
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
You remove our starters and the LB Corp isn't good? Weird lol

Dropped passes suck but is correctable, they were perfectly placed balls and the play calling was on pt. OL has been solid in PP and you can see them starting to gel in RB.

Penalties come from many things, one major one is every team is getting called for everything right now in preseason not just SF. They're youth shows and they're still learning. Coaching needs to step it up and help correct those. But let's stop acting like our DC doesn't care about penalties.

I agree with the edge rushers we got nothing there that teams have to game plan for. We will struggle there imo
We have two good linebackers. one just got hurt last night and of course will not be around for two games,

Apparently Harold Landry got hurt too. Injuries are a fact of the NFL. I think mediocrity rules the NFL. Cap, Free agency , and draft have all worked to spread the talent so thin across the entire NFL that if you get a couple of pieces - you can dominate. Get a franchise QB, your team will dominate because of said mediocrity. So injuries to your premier players can change your record from 12 - 4 to 4 -12 (look what happened ot INdianapolis without Luck).

That's why I say get two players at an impact position and you can fil lthe rest with free agency and the draft . Edge and QB are the two positions you need to spend cap and draft capital on. The rest - you need a goot DC and OC that can fill in with scheme and decent talent. I thnk the 49ers are just one position away from dominance, and that's at edge rusher.
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Originally posted by Baylor:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Most concerning to me are the 49er fans. Probably the worst fans in the NFL.

Then why are you here?

I've been a 49ers fan since 1992. There are several people on this site who I enjoy reading their opinions. But the overwhelming majority of 49er fans on this site love to play the doom and gloom role and its exhausting. It's preseason and people are already giving up hope.
this thread said list your concerns. sorry but concerns can be negative.

I'm not a hematologist, but I'm willing to bet cciowa's blood is negative. You complain more than my wife.

check the title of the thread,. concerns. why don't you go to the thread that says, what are not concerns
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Apparently Harold Landry got hurt too. Injuries are a fact of the NFL. I think mediocrity rules the NFL. Cap, Free agency , and draft have all worked to spread the talent so thin across the entire NFL that if you get a couple of pieces - you can dominate. Get a franchise QB, your team will dominate because of said mediocrity. So injuries to your premier players can change your record from 12 - 4 to 4 -12 (look what happened ot INdianapolis without Luck).

That's why I say get two players at an impact position and you can fil lthe rest with free agency and the draft . Edge and QB are the two positions you need to spend cap and draft capital on. The rest - you need a goot DC and OC that can fill in with scheme and decent talent. I thnk the 49ers are just one position away from dominance, and that's at edge rusher.
and a good dc coordinator. just pay sherman some extra money and he can do the job plus play
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I'm concerned that McKinnon isn't going to last the full 16 games.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Thank man!

Niners are one of the youngest teams in football that's gonna lead to penalties, just is. It's crazy to actually look at how much turnover has happened to his team in a short amount of time.

Jimmy G kinda sped up the rebuild, especially in the eyes of fans. They're not ready to kick ass in the playoffs. Imo they're a yr away from really doing some damage, they need a couple more pieces.

People gotta lower their expectations just a little...and all the negative nancy need to calm down as well. This team is gonna be competitive every Sunday and they will put pts in the board...we as fans haven't had that in a while.

Great post, NY.... I would add to what you stated about the youth of the team that several of the penalties called on the team this preseason have been bad calls...the one on Mostert, a few of the holding calls, a couple of the new helmet hit calls, etc. Also, let us not forget that in the preseason, coaches are very conservative (both on offense and defense) and don't want to show too much. Also, the players themselves, if they have secured a roster spot, may be playing at 80-85 % so as to avoid injury No player wants to go on IR for the year as a result of an injury in a preseason game. (Foster needs to learn this).

As far as concerns are concerned, , I would share that the outside LB group in general looks average at best. When a team trades its starting OLB 2 weeks before the season starts, that should tell you something. Look for the team to watch the waiver wire closely for OLBs. I'm less concerned about the secondary, despite its overall youth. There is some good talent back there and the coaching seems first rate. I'm also encouraged by the overall play of the OL. Let us also not forget that it takes time for an OL to gel and there are 3 new starters on the line this year.

Finally, the failure of the pass rushers to wrap up and actually sack the QB is a concern. It seems that many players are worried about getting flags for hitting a QB too hard, too high, too low, etc. You guys get the picture. Frankly, I'm more concerned about the league and the officiating than I am about our team. IMHO, the league should take all of the officials off the field and put them in the booth. It is really hard to see the infractions from ground level because of all of the bodies obstructing the views. Also, replays now are done in 10-15 seconds so it would be easy to make calls (or fix bad calls) faster. Just my 2 cents.

Cheers!
[ Edited by longterm9erfan on Aug 26, 2018 at 7:33 PM ]
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Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm concerned that McKinnon isn't going to last the full 16 games.

that is totally legit. thank god for alfred
Originally posted by Giedi:
Apparently Harold Landry got hurt too. Injuries are a fact of the NFL. I think mediocrity rules the NFL. Cap, Free agency , and draft have all worked to spread the talent so thin across the entire NFL that if you get a couple of pieces - you can dominate. Get a franchise QB, your team will dominate because of said mediocrity. So injuries to your premier players can change your record from 12 - 4 to 4 -12 (look what happened ot Imdianapolis without Luck).

That's why I say get two players at an impact position and you can fil lthe rest with free agency and the draft . Edge and QB are the two positions you need to spend cap and draft capital on. The rest - you need a goot DC and OC that can fill in with scheme and decent talent. I thnk the 49ers are just one position away from dominance, and that's at edge rusher.

Nice post, Giedi...

Cheers!
Originally posted by Baylor:
Most concerning to me are the 49er fans. Probably the worst fans in the NFL.

It would be really helpful, Baylor, if you stated why you believe this to be the case. Otherwise, it is just an empty post.

Cheers!
Originally posted by cciowa:
check the title of the thread,. concerns. why don't you go to the thread that says, what are not concerns

I mean should we say that to people who only post negative comments in every thread then? Just curious
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Stud:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Most concerning to me are the 49er fans. Probably the worst fans in the NFL.

Then why are you here?

I've been a 49ers fan since 1992. There are several people on this site who I enjoy reading their opinions. But the overwhelming majority of 49er fans on this site love to play the doom and gloom role and its exhausting. It's preseason and people are already giving up hope.

You're free to leave. Nobody is stopping you.

No. Stop that.

He's complaining about how terrible we are. He doesn't like it. Nobody is stopping him from finding another site. I'm not telling him he has to leave but if we're so horrible maybe this site isn't the right fit.
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by Baylor:
Most concerning to me are the 49er fans. Probably the worst fans in the NFL.

Then why are you here?

I've been a 49ers fan since 1992. There are several people on this site who I enjoy reading their opinions. But the overwhelming majority of 49er fans on this site love to play the doom and gloom role and its exhausting. It's preseason and people are already giving up hope.
this thread said list your concerns. sorry but concerns can be negative.

I'm not a hematologist, but I'm willing to bet cciowa's blood is negative. You complain more than my wife.

check the title of the thread,. concerns. why don't you go to the thread that says, what are not concerns

Ignore him. He's trolling and derailing the thread.
Originally posted by longterm9erfan:
Great post, NY.... I would add to what you stated about the youth of the team that several of the penalties called on the team this preseason have been bad calls...the one on Mostert, a few of the holding calls, a couple of the new helmet hit calls, etc. Also, let us not forget that in the preseason, coaches are very conservative (both on offense and defense) and don't want to show too much. Also, the players themselves, if they have secured a roster spot, may be playing at 80-85 % so as to avoid injury No player wants to go on IR for the year as a result of an injury in a preseason game. (Foster needs to learn this).

As far as concerns are concerned, , I would share that the outside LB group in general looks average at best. When a team trades its starting OLB 2 weeks before the season starts, that should tell you something. Look for the team to watch the waiver wire closely for OLBs. I'm less concerned about the secondary, despite its overall youth. There is some good talent back there and the coaching seems first rate. I'm also encouraged by the overall play of the OL. Let us also not forget that it takes time for an OL to gel and there are 3 new starters on the line this year.

Finally, the failure of the pass rushers to wrap up and actually sack the QB is a concern. It seems that many players are concerned about getting flags for hitting a QB too hard, too high, too low, etc. You guys get the picture. Frankly, I'm more concerned about the league and the officiating than I am about our team. IMHO, the league should take all of the officials off the field and put them in the booth. It is really hard to see the infractions from ground level because of all of the bodies obstructing the views. Also, replays now are done in 10-15 seconds so it would be easy to make calls (or fix bad calls) faster. Just my 2 cents.

Cheers!

Totally agree
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Originally posted by cciowa:
and a good dc coordinator. just pay sherman some extra money and he can do the job plus play

Agree, I think Dick Sherman can be a good DC, but I think he can make more money being a talking head. And I think that's where his passion is. He has a big mouth and that mouth will get him a lot of television gigs.
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