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Originally posted by RishikeshA:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Signing Kirk Cousins looking better and better by the day.

The more the Skins lose the better it becomes for the 49ers.

In what way? KC is playing well enough he will see a max contract next year. In fact, losing, in the way the Skins are (read not because of KC) may actually be worse for those who want KC in SF.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Always a tough decision for a fan. Do you hope for wins or hope for a better draft pick. I would love a top draft pick but getting 1 or 2 wins feels really demoralizing. Like we waited months for football just to see a lot of losses.

Fans had to realize that's what was gonna happen this yr (losing). I'm not saying we go 0-16, but who cares if we win 4 games if it's gonna cost us a possible game changing player? Like I meantioned earlier is anyone still talking about that Rams win from week 16 last yr now lol?

I will say I was rooting for a win last week (as I do every week) but I'm not gonna get all bent out of shape because of a lose this yr.

Teams don't tank in the NFL...they can't with the way players contracts and incentives are setup.

That Rams game was great way to start xmas eve. after all the months of losing it was great. it was great enough to send more people to the game after and had a great tailgate and game till the dreaded 2nd half

I'm glad you had a nice Christmas and tailgate because of the meaningless Rams win but we missed out on Garrett because of that win. Who knows how long it will take to get a premier pass rusher like that in the draft. It could take a decade.

When you have a losing record and are in need of a QB or pass rusher it's best to be in a great draft spot. Especially if you need a QB.

We need a QB. We have a losing record already and it's extremely unlikely we'll be making the playoffs.

I'll have a good Christmas this year if we're in a position to get one of the top QB's in this class or to trade our pick to a QB needy team (if we get QB via free agency)

Acting like people want to tank every year to build a team is disingenuous. We're specifically talking about this year and we don't have to tank. This was a 4 win season max either way.

A great QB can change a franchise. You're less likley to get one drafting in the 5-10 range.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

winning two games last year had people pissed, So what would people be like if we won the same or more ?

for me i rather get wins to build off. means less holes to fill and carries some momentum.

Right now we have a gelling issue. would you be upset is we were 3-1 right now

Frankly I don't really care what people would be like if we won the same or more...this team wasn't gonna be good this yr just wasn't. We didn't have a crap ton of pro-bowlers on the roster (zero actually).

I don't want fake wins I guess...any given Sunday a team can win, but if we're 3-1 in convincing fashion and it was with a QB that actually was part of the future sure BUT that's not the case.

I don't want to be the Buffalo Bills...constant below par team that never get's that true difference maker at the top of drafts (namely a QB). I'm looking long-term not just 2017, momentum to me for a rebuilding team starting fresh isn't winning 4 games.

Guess we just see it different it's cool

And he's actually wrong. Most people on this site were PISSED about missing out on Garrett.

Anyhow, I'll be pissed if we lose most games via poor defense. That would be very concerning. That hasn't been the case though. Our main issue so far is Hoyer, blocking and drops on offense. We've had one bad defensive game.

If our defense plays decent most of the year we'll be in a position to win a lot more games in 2018 if we get a QB, WR and gaurds.

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Always a tough decision for a fan. Do you hope for wins or hope for a better draft pick. I would love a top draft pick but getting 1 or 2 wins feels really demoralizing. Like we waited months for football just to see a lot of losses.

Fans had to realize that's what was gonna happen this yr (losing). I'm not saying we go 0-16, but who cares if we win 4 games if it's gonna cost us a possible game changing player? Like I meantioned earlier is anyone still talking about that Rams win from week 16 last yr now lol?

I will say I was rooting for a win last week (as I do every week) but I'm not gonna get all bent out of shape because of a lose this yr.

Teams don't tank in the NFL...they can't with the way players contracts and incentives are setup.

That Rams game was great way to start xmas eve. after all the months of losing it was great. it was great enough to send more people to the game after and had a great tailgate and game till the dreaded 2nd half

I'm glad you had a nice Christmas and tailgate because of the meaningless Rams win but we missed out on Garrett because of that win. Who knows how long it will take to get a premier pass rusher like that in the draft. It could take a decade.

When you have a losing record and are in need of a QB or pass rusher it's best to be in a great draft spot. Especially if you need a QB.

We need a QB. We have a losing record already and it's extremely unlikely we'll be making the playoffs.

I'll have a good Christmas this year if we're in a position to get one of the top QB's in this class or to trade our pick to a QB needy team (if we get QB via free agency)

Acting like people want to tank every year to build a team is disingenuous. We're specifically talking about this year and we don't have to tank. This was a 4 win season max either way.

A great QB can change a franchise. You're less likley to get one drafting in the 5-10 range.

How's garret doing by the way?.

Plus we got cousins coming and don't need to go qb early. We can get great skill players

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by LeProfessionnel:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Always a tough decision for a fan. Do you hope for wins or hope for a better draft pick. I would love a top draft pick but getting 1 or 2 wins feels really demoralizing. Like we waited months for football just to see a lot of losses.

Fans had to realize that's what was gonna happen this yr (losing). I'm not saying we go 0-16, but who cares if we win 4 games if it's gonna cost us a possible game changing player? Like I meantioned earlier is anyone still talking about that Rams win from week 16 last yr now lol?

I will say I was rooting for a win last week (as I do every week) but I'm not gonna get all bent out of shape because of a lose this yr.

Teams don't tank in the NFL...they can't with the way players contracts and incentives are setup.

That Rams game was great way to start xmas eve. after all the months of losing it was great. it was great enough to send more people to the game after and had a great tailgate and game till the dreaded 2nd half

I'm glad you had a nice Christmas and tailgate because of the meaningless Rams win but we missed out on Garrett because of that win. Who knows how long it will take to get a premier pass rusher like that in the draft. It could take a decade.

When you have a losing record and are in need of a QB or pass rusher it's best to be in a great draft spot. Especially if you need a QB.

We need a QB. We have a losing record already and it's extremely unlikely we'll be making the playoffs.

I'll have a good Christmas this year if we're in a position to get one of the top QB's in this class or to trade our pick to a QB needy team (if we get QB via free agency)

Acting like people want to tank every year to build a team is disingenuous. We're specifically talking about this year and we don't have to tank. This was a 4 win season max either way.

A great QB can change a franchise. You're less likley to get one drafting in the 5-10 range.

How's garret doing by the way?.

Plus we got cousins coming and don't need to go qb early. We can get great skill players

He's injured yes? Who's to say that would've happened here. He's likley to have a good career rushing the passer.

Cousins isn't 100%. He's not a lock to come here.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

How's garret doing by the way?.

Plus we got cousins coming and don't need to go qb early. We can get great skill players

Even though losing, Cousins has played great football last 3 games. first one was a throw away, or one off. Now he is showing his stuff but it isn't enough for the. Redskins. The lesson? A FR QB cannot win by himself. Someone else has to step up and help him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
I still struggle with the draft mentality of fail your way to success. I am sure if we were 3-1 right now some would be saying we can't afford to win any more this season or we won't be able to rebuild properly. Am I right?

No you're not right...and it depends on how we won those games. If we b******t our way to a 3-1 record then yeah I'd be a little bummer that we could very well lose out on a top end QB prospect. If we were winning convincingly with CJ at the helm I'd be happy as s**t and wouldn't care about not being able to afford another win.

All I'm saying is I'd rather have Rosen/darnold vs winning 4 games this yr.

My comment was pointed at us fans with a "pretty hard to be wrong on a forum" kind of statement. The last few pages bare this out. Your point is correct in my opinion though.
With the system the way it is why wouldn't our management look for ways of gaining an advantage for the future. It's their job.
Just tough watching your beloved team lose for whatever reason.
If there was no draft the NFL would fall apart. I get it. But sometimes it seems like communism where sucking badly is rewarded. On the other hand who wants to see the Pats forever dominate!

I think we win this game! I don't think our coaches and players are trying to lose.

The penis see's a Niner win, 21-13.

Originally posted by mayo49:
The penis see's a Niner win, 21-13.

This needs to be a whole thread of its own. aka Ground Hog Day and Punxsutawney Phil

Sourdough Sam Day and Mayo's Tingling Sensations

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Originally posted by mayo49:
The penis see's a Niner win, 21-13.

This needs to be a whole thread of its own. aka Ground Hog Day and Punxsutawney Phil

Sourdough Sam Day and Mayo's Tingling Sensations

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

I still struggle with the draft mentality of fail your way to success. I am sure if we were 3-1 right now some would be saying we can't afford to win any more this season or we won't be able to rebuild properly. Am I right?

No you're not right...and it depends on how we won those games. If we b******t our way to a 3-1 record then yeah I'd be a little bummer that we could very well lose out on a top end QB prospect. If we were winning convincingly with CJ at the helm I'd be happy as s**t and wouldn't care about not being able to afford another win.

All I'm saying is I'd rather have Rosen/darnold vs winning 4 games this yr.

My comment was pointed at us fans with a "pretty hard to be wrong on a forum" kind of statement. The last few pages bare this out. Your point is correct in my opinion though.
With the system the way it is why wouldn't our management look for ways of gaining an advantage for the future. It's their job.
Just tough watching your beloved team lose for whatever reason.
If there was no draft the NFL would fall apart. I get it. But sometimes it seems like communism where sucking badly is rewarded. On the other hand who wants to see the Pats forever dominate!

I think we win this game! I don't think our coaches and players are trying to lose.

If we were 3-1 things would be different. The fact were not has me thinking more long term right now.

Last 3 games lost are already a huge plus in draft positioning(Well look back and think losing those games ended up being a blessing in disguise)

Whatever happens from here on out happens but im still looking forward to watching games and seeing individual player development, HC/DC included.

Originally posted by mayo49:

The penis see's a Niner win, 21-13.

7 field goals is asking for a bit much, but I'm looking for a win as well.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
I still struggle with the draft mentality of fail your way to success. I am sure if we were 3-1 right now some would be saying we can't afford to win any more this season or we won't be able to rebuild properly. Am I right?

No you're not right...and it depends on how we won those games. If we b******t our way to a 3-1 record then yeah I'd be a little bummer that we could very well lose out on a top end QB prospect. If we were winning convincingly with CJ at the helm I'd be happy as s**t and wouldn't care about not being able to afford another win.

All I'm saying is I'd rather have Rosen/darnold vs winning 4 games this yr.

My comment was pointed at us fans with a "pretty hard to be wrong on a forum" kind of statement. The last few pages bare this out. Your point is correct in my opinion though.
With the system the way it is why wouldn't our management look for ways of gaining an advantage for the future. It's their job.
Just tough watching your beloved team lose for whatever reason.
If there was no draft the NFL would fall apart. I get it. But sometimes it seems like communism where sucking badly is rewarded. On the other hand who wants to see the Pats forever dominate!

I think we win this game! I don't think our coaches and players are trying to lose.

If we were 3-1 things would be different. The fact were not has me thinking more long term right now.

Last 3 games lost are already a huge plus in draft positioning(Well look back and think losing those games ended up being a blessing in disguise)

Whatever happens from here on out happens but im still looking forward to watching games and seeing individual player development, HC/DC included.

Exactly, Smoke - looking for individual performances at this point. The losing will take care of itself and hopefully we'll be picking in top 3.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
If we were 3-1 things would be different. The fact were not has me thinking more long term right now.

Last 3 games lost are already a huge plus in draft positioning(Well look back and think losing those games ended up being a blessing in disguise)

Whatever happens from here on out happens but im still looking forward to watching games and seeing individual player development, HC/DC included.

Spot on.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

I still struggle with the draft mentality of fail your way to success. I am sure if we were 3-1 right now some would be saying we can't afford to win any more this season or we won't be able to rebuild properly. Am I right?

No you're not right...and it depends on how we won those games. If we b******t our way to a 3-1 record then yeah I'd be a little bummer that we could very well lose out on a top end QB prospect. If we were winning convincingly with CJ at the helm I'd be happy as s**t and wouldn't care about not being able to afford another win.

All I'm saying is I'd rather have Rosen/darnold vs winning 4 games this yr.

My comment was pointed at us fans with a "pretty hard to be wrong on a forum" kind of statement. The last few pages bare this out. Your point is correct in my opinion though.
With the system the way it is why wouldn't our management look for ways of gaining an advantage for the future. It's their job.
Just tough watching your beloved team lose for whatever reason.
If there was no draft the NFL would fall apart. I get it. But sometimes it seems like communism where sucking badly is rewarded. On the other hand who wants to see the Pats forever dominate!

I think we win this game! I don't think our coaches and players are trying to lose.

If we were 3-1 things would be different. The fact were not has me thinking more long term right now.

Last 3 games lost are already a huge plus in draft positioning(Well look back and think losing those games ended up being a blessing in disguise)

Whatever happens from here on out happens but im still looking forward to watching games and seeing individual player development, HC/DC included.

Exactly, Smoke - looking for individual performances at this point. The losing will take care of itself and hopefully we'll be picking in top 3.

Yessir. I think we got a top 10 in the bag.

I am thinking though what happens if we win next two weeks and rams lose next two& SEA wins 1 out of next 2