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Originally posted by NYniner85:
SF was a top 5 pass D unit last yr and that's with scrubs like Norman/Dre coming in off the street. This secondary is much better and the DL has improved as well.

I also disagree this safety thing is horrible. I'll bet money they bring back Tartt on a cheap deal just like they brought JV back.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Rather let Hufanga and Moore battle for that spot then bring back Tartt. I think that dropped int ended his time here

I know how you feel about TH, but IMO he's a sub package and STer. That has value, he's not a starter though. They need to have a safety that's interchangeable with Ward. Tartt can play in the box, 2-high, single-high, blitz, run defend, cover in the slot etc.

We will see, I would love to have Tartt back for dirt cheap and I think it will happen at some point.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Rather let Hufanga and Moore battle for that spot then bring back Tartt. I think that dropped int ended his time here

I know how you feel about TH, but IMO he's a sub package and STer. That has value, he's not a starter though. They need to have a safety that's interchangeable with Ward. Tartt can play in the box, 2-high, single-high, blitz, run defend, cover in the slot etc.

We will see, I would love to have Tartt back for dirt cheap and I think it will happen at some point.

you pay him dirt cheap and that is exactly the type of play you will get from him,

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Boo hoo we didn't sign a 10 million dollar a year, 30 year old free safety to play Strong Safety.

Did he get $10M a yr? Yeah, no thanks, I'm good with what we have.

Agreed 100%. Let the Saints pay him that much. Niners have one very good S in Ward...let the other guys battle it out for the second S position. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Hufanga takes it.

In a league that values speed in the wide outs. we counter with a slow safety. brilliant

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Boo hoo we didn't sign a 10 million dollar a year, 30 year old free safety to play Strong Safety.

Did he get $10M a yr? Yeah, no thanks, I'm good with what we have.

Agreed 100%. Let the Saints pay him that much. Niners have one very good S in Ward...let the other guys battle it out for the second S position. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Hufanga takes it.

In a league that values speed in the wide outs. we counter with a slow safety. brilliant

The Saints signed a very expensive safety? I thought that they were over the cap by $100 million. lo

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Boo hoo we didn't sign a 10 million dollar a year, 30 year old free safety to play Strong Safety.

Did he get $10M a yr? Yeah, no thanks, I'm good with what we have.

Agreed 100%. Let the Saints pay him that much. Niners have one very good S in Ward...let the other guys battle it out for the second S position. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Hufanga takes it.

In a league that values speed in the wide outs. we counter with a slow safety. brilliant

The Saints signed a very expensive safety? I thought that they were over the cap by $100 million. lo

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Boo hoo we didn't sign a 10 million dollar a year, 30 year old free safety to play Strong Safety.

Did he get $10M a yr? Yeah, no thanks, I'm good with what we have.

Agreed 100%. Let the Saints pay him that much. Niners have one very good S in Ward...let the other guys battle it out for the second S position. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Hufanga takes it.

In a league that values speed in the wide outs. we counter with a slow safety. brilliant

The Saints signed a very expensive safety? I thought that they were over the cap by $100 million. lo

Saints are a poorly run club. I would hate my team to be doing this annual stupid salary cap dance. I would hate to see the huge looming cap hits kicked down the road.

They've lost real players like Armstead, Williams and Hendrickson.

They have the 6th most dead money in the NFL at $29 million. We have only $5 mil in dead money. So they are around 6 times as much in dead money as us. We rank 29th in dead money which means we are very well run.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Boo hoo we didn't sign a 10 million dollar a year, 30 year old free safety to play Strong Safety.

Did he get $10M a yr? Yeah, no thanks, I'm good with what we have.

Agreed 100%. Let the Saints pay him that much. Niners have one very good S in Ward...let the other guys battle it out for the second S position. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Hufanga takes it.

In a league that values speed in the wide outs. we counter with a slow safety. brilliant

The Saints signed a very expensive safety? I thought that they were over the cap by $100 million. lo

Saints are a poorly run club. I would hate my team to be doing this annual stupid salary cap dance. I would hate to see the huge looming cap hits kicked down the road.

They've lost real players like Armstead, Williams and Hendrickson.

They have the 6th most dead money in the NFL at $29 million. We have only $5 mil in dead money. So they are around 6 times as much in dead money as us. We rank 29th in dead money which means we are very well run.

Very well run, indeed. Plus we are competitve and have almost all of our skill positions filled. This draft was about depth and they executed the plan well. You cannot account for everything but overall I like our chances going into the season.

Originally posted by cciowa:
bringing tartt back is supposed to be some sort of a solution,, he is not good.. i at least see the reasoning with signing jason. the man has played at a all pro ability. tartt is below average

Originally posted by cciowa:
you pay him dirt cheap and that is exactly the type of play you will get from him,

Originally posted by pdizo916:
The Saints signed a very expensive safety? I thought that they were over the cap by $100 million. lo

Originally posted by cciowa:
the lame response would be.... well. they will pay for it down the road. lol

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
SF was a top 5 pass D unit last yr and that's with scrubs like Norman/Dre coming in off the street. This secondary is much better and the DL has improved as well.

I also disagree this safety thing is horrible. I'll bet money they bring back Tartt on a cheap deal just like they brought JV back.

bringing tartt back is supposed to be some sort of a solution,, he is not good.. i at least see the reasoning with signing jason. the man has played at a all pro ability. tartt is below average

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
The Saints signed a very expensive safety? I thought that they were over the cap by $100 million. lo

They were over the cap by a lot. Then they renegotiated the contracts they had and pushed the bill down the road. Now over half their cap in 2023 is dedicated to 5 guys. 30 mil over next year not including the money they are going to promise Matthieu. Gonna be closer to 40 mil over.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And who's their QB? At least some teams that are pushing cash down the road have elite QBs and a legit shot to win a SB.