John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Lynch sounds like a good dude, a very bright guy with a lot of good contacts across the NFL, I really hope this does work out. Would be kind of awesome to have a guy that was coached by Bill Walsh taking the organization back to winning again.

Name me a 49ers' fan who doesn't?

Originally posted by VA9erfan:
So these two men had an interview early January and then agreed to WAIT 2-3 weeks to meet with Niner brass and Shanahan this weekend but yet they weren't interested or didn't want the job? I call B***$#!T. If you don't want or are not interested you tell them thanks but no thanks early in the process as others did.

I would suspect that the 49ers would not have given them the full details on the position, and the breakdown on authority between the GM, the HC and the rest of the FO until the second interview. After all they with the way they are doing the search they had to come to a verbal agreement with the HC first.

Fairly normal in interviews for the first interview to focus on evaluating the candidate, and the second to involve a detailed discussion on how they would function within the organization and the terms of the offer.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:

should be impressed or worried that he drinks girl drinks ?

Jay Glazer says John Lynch once drank 34 Mai Tais in one sitting

Heartburn city...gotta be like Wade Boggs an crush 64 beers in one cross country flight

Cocaine definitely involved on both those occasions

Originally posted by communist:
Name me a 49ers' fan who doesn't?

lol.........I plead the 5th.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

I firmly believe that if Steve Young actually really wanted the GM job, Jed would have gave it to him.

Jed clearly doesn't really care about resume experience, considering the John Lynch hire.



Everyone always throws around the Steve Young name around, but to my recollection, I've not seen one report where hes actually stated that he WANTS the job. Maybe he's just happy with his family and wants to be low key.

Apparently some people have fully grasped the idea that Shanahan picked Lynch, not York.

Kyle could have easily picked Steve Young as well, considering his relationship with Mike.

I just don't think Steve actually wants the job.

Maybe bc Steve doesn't drink Mai Tais?

Here is my take on the Lynch hire. Jed said he was impressed with his organizational skills and his communication skills. Not to mention Lynch has a no nonsense presence about him. The word is that Lynch will also bring in some other colleagues to help out in the personnel department while also keeping on Gamble and present staff.

The key to me is why Jed said he hired him in the first place. I think Lynch was brought in to listen to everybody and make a fair intelligent decision based on all of the information in front of him. Normally a GM makes the personnel decisions on his own. I think Lynch will make the decisions based on what the majority think. Balke was not that kind of guy. He made his picks and didn't care much what anyone else thought. Play with the players you are given or hit the road.

Its actually a very prehistoric way of thinking and doing things. Back in the 1950s there just weren't very many people who knew about football like in Today's NFL. Everyone has access to scouting reports and game film with the click of a mouse nowadays. I could see why you would leave that decision to one person back then, but today it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. GM by committee might be the future. Similar to how most teams use a RB by committee in today's game. Every RB brings something different to the table.

Im going to stay optimistic and see how it goes. Its the old cliche, two heads are better than one and 3 are better than two, etc...

People seemed to overlook that we have a GM that was on a winning SB team, and a OC that will go to the SB and possible be on a SB winning team, be the HC of the Niners. If you want a winning culture you have the people that have been there.

The Ford gave Millen total control doe

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Mookster:

Yes really. What does a John Lynch bring to the table other than the need to hire people to do the job he was hired for? He has no personnel experience, no operations experience, no scouting experience.... he is uniquely unqualified for the job other than he has strong leadership skills. Why not go out and find a GM who has all of the technical and personal competencies necessary to do the job? Why not find a GM who raises the profile of the organization within NFL circles, who has experience dealing with agents, negotiating contracts and can view both the player and the organization side of the agreement?

Again I ask you: What does John Lynch bring to this team that didn't reside in any other GM candidate?

Gamble has been asked to stay through the draft and 'prove he should stay with the organization'. What a joke! Gamble is the only one in the building who has run an NFL draft. So, if it's a bad draft Gamble takes the blame giving the new GM a mulligan? If the draft goes well do they cut Gamble loose after saying thanks for your service but we have a new GM on board for the next 6 years? What is Gamble's motivation to stay? He's been told he won't be GM here and he now reports to someone with less experience managing football personnel decisions than the intern and who was given a 6 year contract. How is that for "winning with class"?

Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away

The same thing Harbaugh brought to the table. Lets be honest here; York can't have a credible conversation in the NFL personnel world and be able to build a football savvy personnel team. He just can't. Neither can Marathe. A completely different level of people will answer the phone when Lynch calls and with a HC like Shanahan in his pocket. Yes Gamble is the only one in the building right this minute but to say there's no value in what Lynch brings to the table is a bit knee-jerk.

You're kidding right? With Harbaugh you had a guy that had coached TWO different teams and brought them from obscurity to prominence. Lynch has done nothing of the sort. When Lynch calls the other guy on the line will be like 'Easy money from this nube'.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Mookster:
Yes really. What does a John Lynch bring to the table other than the need to hire people to do the job he was hired for? He has no personnel experience, no operations experience, no scouting experience.... he is uniquely unqualified for the job other than he has strong leadership skills. Why not go out and find a GM who has all of the technical and personal competencies necessary to do the job? Why not find a GM who raises the profile of the organization within NFL circles, who has experience dealing with agents, negotiating contracts and can view both the player and the organization side of the agreement?

Again I ask you: What does John Lynch bring to this team that didn't reside in any other GM candidate?

Gamble has been asked to stay through the draft and 'prove he should stay with the organization'. What a joke! Gamble is the only one in the building who has run an NFL draft. So, if it's a bad draft Gamble takes the blame giving the new GM a mulligan? If the draft goes well do they cut Gamble loose after saying thanks for your service but we have a new GM on board for the next 6 years? What is Gamble's motivation to stay? He's been told he won't be GM here and he now reports to someone with less experience managing football personnel decisions than the intern and who was given a 6 year contract. How is that for "winning with class"?

Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away

The same thing Harbaugh brought to the table. Lets be honest here; York can't have a credible conversation in the NFL personnel world and be able to build a football savvy personnel team. He just can't. Neither can Marathe. A completely different level of people will answer the phone when Lynch calls and with a HC like Shanahan in his pocket. Yes Gamble is the only one in the building right this minute but to say there's no value in what Lynch brings to the table is a bit knee-jerk.

Harbaugh was a proven Head Coach with years of football coaching after his playing days. Really doesn't compare well to a GM who has never worked in a football organization.

I do agree that York has zero football credibility, but to think that the football management world will accept Lynch cart blanche is a stretch. He's the one who usurped the process and kept more qualified candidates on the sidelines. It's just as likely that he's tolerated and given respect as a former player and then completely ignored as a football mind.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:

should be impressed or worried that he drinks girl drinks ?

Jay Glazer says John Lynch once drank 34 Mai Tais in one sitting

Heartburn city...gotta be like Wade Boggs an crush 64 beers in one cross country flight

Curious...are you an It's Always Sunny in Philly fan?

Originally posted by communist:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by communist:
Good god, wtf? Given this result he could have hired Steve Young as well...wow, he impressed York. As if it is so difficult to impress a child.

Lynch called up Shanahan and offered to be his GM. Shanahan wanted Lynch. The 49ers gave the HC the guy he wanted.

Apparently, Shanahan was fine with Paton and McDonough, otherwise neither of them would have been interviewed for a second time.

I think they kept or set up the second interviews so the the secret would not be let out. If they decided on Lynch before the second interviews were set up, it would look strange not to have someone come in and meet Kyle. If they decided on Lynch after the second interviews were set up, it would look strange to cancel them, and everyone would be speculating who got hired.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
People seemed to overlook that we have a GM that was on a winning SB team, and a OC that will go to the SB and possible be on a SB winning team, be the HC of the Niners. If you want a winning culture you have the people that have been there.

The Ford gave Millen total control doe

McDaniels came from a team with a winning culture as did several assistants who worked for BB. Who cares?

Don't hate or love this move yet. All depends on who Lynch chooses to surround himself with. Lot's of talk on Dominik and with that being said does anyone know how much input he had on putting those late 90's early 2000's Bucs teams together? He was a scout for them for 19 years before becoming their GM.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Mookster:
So who do you think will run the draft?

I think ultimate responsibility will go to Dominik and Gamble with Lynch having the final say.

Exactly. Thank-you for making the point.

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by pd24:
Ex Dolphins GM.. Him and Dominik were scouting together at the senior bowel and I belive Breer tweeted that they can both come to SF as a package.

Bringing two former GM's on to the staff would help Lynch out quite a bit. Could mean the end of the road for Gamble after the draft is over.

Seems like a waste of time. The argument is, "he's going to be good, he just needs two guys who've already been a GM to help him out." See anything wrong with that?

No, same thing with Elway early on in his career. He lacked knowledge of the structure but knew football...and how has that worked out? Lynch is bright enough and confident enough to deal with guys who have experience. That is a huge step in the right direction. If you had another Jed in there being passive aggressive, smiling, tweeting...that would be a disaster. According to most reports Lynch is not a game player.

Alls well that ends well. We'll see, but I'm optimistic...as usual.

I certainly hope it ends well for the 49ers, but I'm of the opinion that you don't hire somebody who is unqualified for the position. I wouldn't do in my business career and I don't think it's a good idea for the 49ers. There is a whole lot of rationalization going on right now.

While I'm not totally happy with this hire, I have no idea what Lynch's capabilities are other than his obvious football ability and what his Stanford degree indicates. Does anyone? If he has Gamble and other experienced guys working for/with him I don't see any reason to panic.