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Originally posted by Mookster:


Gamble has been asked to stay through the draft and 'prove he should stay with the organization'. What a joke!


Its almost like this is common-place practice when a new GM is hired. Everyone in the front office has through the draft to prove that they are worth keeping. Gamble won't be running the draft and he won't be graded on the results of the draft, which of course two days after the fact will be too early to tell but he will be graded on his knowledge, work ethic, quality of scouting reports, how he fits the team philosophy, how he works with other front office staff and the coaching staff.....etc.


This is far from unusual.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Ok. Sounds like Gamble will be out after the draft if they bring in Hickey and Dominik in addition to Lynch.

Could very well be. There's just absolutely zero upside to firing him right now.
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when is the press conference ?
Originally posted by Mookster:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Mookster:
If this is the case, that Shanahan chose Lynch, then I seriously question his judgement. As a first time HC Shanahan should be looking to surround himself with QUALIFIED, CAPABLE and EXPERIENCED people to help run the organization, fill in his own gaps and set himself up for success as much as possible. This smacks of hiring people who impress in an interview but lack the experience to do the job.

And York isn't blameless here. He should be looking to rebuild both the capability and reputation of his front office by hiring respected, qualified and experienced football management. Instead he embarrasses multiple qualified GMs by passing them over for a former player turned commentator with ZERO football management experience and his current staff by telling them "you're not qualified but this guy is". Now we're in a position to try and find qualified execs to come in and teach Lynch etc how to do their jobs. GFL on that!

Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away.

Gamble has been retained along with the rest of the scouting staff.
The annoucement is LESS THAN 24 hours old and hires haven't been made yet. Judgement is already being questioned? Really?

Yes really. What does a John Lynch bring to the table other than the need to hire people to do the job he was hired for? He has no personnel experience, no operations experience, no scouting experience.... he is uniquely unqualified for the job other than he has strong leadership skills. Why not go out and find a GM who has all of the technical and personal competencies necessary to do the job? Why not find a GM who raises the profile of the organization within NFL circles, who has experience dealing with agents, negotiating contracts and can view both the player and the organization side of the agreement?

Again I ask you: What does John Lynch bring to this team that didn't reside in any other GM candidate?

Gamble has been asked to stay through the draft and 'prove he should stay with the organization'. What a joke! Gamble is the only one in the building who has run an NFL draft. So, if it's a bad draft Gamble takes the blame giving the new GM a mulligan? If the draft goes well do they cut Gamble loose after saying thanks for your service but we have a new GM on board for the next 6 years? What is Gamble's motivation to stay? He's been told he won't be GM here and he now reports to someone with less experience managing football personnel decisions than the intern and who was given a 6 year contract. How is that for "winning with class"?

Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away

I agree. What a ridiculous hire. Clearly, they want somebody who is too busy learning on the job to tell senior management to piss off when its warranted. It's like they value control more than winning and ability.

I also agree with your opinion on Gamble and wouldn't be shocked to see him leave. They are already framing it as a "prove it" draft in the media. What his motivation to stay? If he does a great job, Lynch gets the credit. If he does a poor job, or is overridden by a guy who doesn't know what he's doing and the draft sucks he will be the fall guy. What is the point? Gamble should abandon ship now before management makes him walk the plank as the scapegoat.
[ Edited by bzborow1 on Jan 30, 2017 at 10:45 AM ]
Good god, wtf? Given this result he could have hired Steve Young as well...wow, he impressed York. As if it is so difficult to impress a child.
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Any idea who is in charge of player personnel and free agency?

Rumors are they are bringing in Dominik and maybe even Hickey and also keeping Gamble. Could be the deepest FO we have had in a while.

According to PFT's Mike Florio, "buzz is building" toward the 49ers hiring ex-Bucs GM Mark Dominik to be new GM John Lynch's right-hand man.

Yeah hickey is also being looked at I guess

Ok. Sounds like Gamble will be out after the draft if they bring in Hickey and Dominik in addition to Lynch.

You can keep Gamble as Ass GM. & still have Player Personnel, College Scouting & Pro Scouting directors.
Originally posted by susweel:
when is the press conference ?

I'm going to assume around Tuesday after the Super Bowl?
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Originally posted by susweel:
when is the press conference ?

They are doing a conference call sometime today with Lynch because he has some kind of family thing he has to attend.
He sucked as a broadcaster. Hopefully he can bring in Aikman and Joe Buck so I don't have hear the ever again as well.
I still don't get it
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by susweel:
when is the press conference ?

They are doing a conference call sometime today with Lynch because he has some kind of family thing he has to attend.

already skipping out on work
Originally posted by communist:
Good god, wtf? Given this result he could have hired Steve Young as well...wow, he impressed York. As if it is so difficult to impress a child.

Lynch called up Shanahan and offered to be his GM. Shanahan wanted Lynch. The 49ers gave the HC the guy he wanted.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
No, same thing with Elway early on in his career. He lacked knowledge of the structure but knew football...and how has that worked out? Lynch is bright enough and confident enough to deal with guys who have experience. That is a huge step in the right direction. If you had another Jed in there being passive aggressive, smiling, tweeting...that would be a disaster. According to most reports Lynch is not a game player.

Alls well that ends well. We'll see, but I'm optimistic...as usual.

Elway runs the Denver Broncos...these scenarios are not the same. Elway has last say where Lynch is more a figure head in an organizational structure that doesn't make sense and I don't think many other teams are using anything similar to it.

Elway was a proven and successful business leader as well. I believe he owned multiple car dealerships and had real estate as well prior to going back to the Broncos. Essentially he had previously owned and operated businesses, made business decisions, hired and fired business staff and was accountable for bottom line results. All experience that contributed to his success running the business of the Denver Broncos.

I don't recall reading the same about Lynch.... or about York for that matter.

Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I hate it b/c he's nothing more than an alleged figure head. He's not a GM. In fact, we still need to hire a GM...or others than can do GM jobs.

But I'll wait to see how many Bucs coaches we bring in...Tampa 2 baby!

Understood.

*sigh*

I'll try to certainly get this one...and like any move, wait and see how it pans out, but this one in particular, like the Tomsula hire, is so far out in left field, it's hard not to be massively overly skeptical esp. given Jed/Paraag's tenure.
Originally posted by Jcool:
You can keep Gamble as Ass GM. & still have Player Personnel, College Scouting & Pro Scouting directors.

If they keep Gamble my guess is he'd handle Pro Personnel, while Dominik was Head of Player Personnel and Hickey(if he's included) would be Head of College Scouting.
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