John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Ronde Barber, also a broadcaster

That would be an instant upgrade for our safeties.

I have mixed emotions on the hire. On one hand, it would have been great to have landed an experienced NFL executive like George Paton. However, I think Lynch may have the bigger upside and the potential to bring greatness to the team. In todays NFL the GM doesnt do everything and I dont think Lynch will fall into the same trap that Matt Millen did. He will know what he doesnt know and surround himself with smart guys. Have to give Jed credit for having a huge set of balls because he had to know he would get ripped for this. lol

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:

should be impressed or worried that he drinks girl drinks ?

Jay Glazer says John Lynch once drank 34 Mai Tais in one sitting

Heartburn city...gotta be like Wade Boggs an crush 64 beers in one cross country flight

Curious...are you an It's Always Sunny in Philly fan?

Originally posted by Mookster:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
No, same thing with Elway early on in his career. He lacked knowledge of the structure but knew football...and how has that worked out? Lynch is bright enough and confident enough to deal with guys who have experience. That is a huge step in the right direction. If you had another Jed in there being passive aggressive, smiling, tweeting...that would be a disaster. According to most reports Lynch is not a game player.

Alls well that ends well. We'll see, but I'm optimistic...as usual.

Elway runs the Denver Broncos...these scenarios are not the same. Elway has last say where Lynch is more a figure head in an organizational structure that doesn't make sense and I don't think many other teams are using anything similar to it.

Elway was a proven and successful business leader as well. I believe he owned multiple car dealerships and had real estate as well prior to going back to the Broncos. Essentially he had previously owned and operated businesses, made business decisions, hired and fired business staff and was accountable for bottom line results. All experience that contributed to his success running the business of the Denver Broncos.

I don't recall reading the same about Lynch.... or about York for that matter.

Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away

It resembles Elway's ascendency in Denver because he needed help with the structure early on and became more comfortable as he learned. He was also criticized, as was his hiring. Do you recall all the people who said he was hired because he was a drinking buddy with the owner?

Elway owned an Arena League team that had a record of 48-48. Then he was made GM of the Broncos three years after the Arena League folded. Not sure how much he learned from that experience over Lynch's experience reporting on the NFL and working games. He remained much closer to people in the NFL it would seem...but that's a guess, as is almost everything else being said.

Originally posted by Mookster:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Mookster:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Mookster:
So who do you think will run the draft?

I think ultimate responsibility will go to Dominik and Gamble with Lynch having the final say.

Exactly. Thank-you for making the point.

So why is this terrible again?

Because you've just put your rebuild on the shoulders of at least one person, Gamble, who has literally been slapped in the face and told he's here to run a draft and be a scapegoat at best. You've also committed to hiring people to do the job your GM is supposed to do and given final roster responsibility to someone who's never been held accountable for evaluating talent at any level of professional football. I'd love to find a silver lining in this but if this was the result of all that change then they could have let Baalke continue to screw things up.

Dynasty to Disaster is just a York away

Good lord, you act as if they'll be working in silos and refuse to be on the same page.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Cocaine definitely involved on both those occasions

Haha I don't doubt it!

Well they spent all night at York's then flew to Atlanta. lol

Gamble isn't going to be fired or evaluated until at least May.

Even if you want to fire him, you can't fire anyone right now anyway, regardless of who you hire as GM. We're 3 months away from the draft and 2 months away from FA. It's too late.

That goes for the entire scouting department too.

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
^ So basically he is saying if all goes well we should see positive results in 2020

This team was set for a 2-3 year rebuild regardless of who was hired. No QB, no pass rush, lack of talent on offense, its going to take a few years.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Facebook post from Taylor Price who used to write for 49ers.com Pretty fair overall comments.


https://www.facebook.com/notes/taylor-price/49ers-hire-john-lynch-as-gm-wait-what/1847701532143006

So is Tom Gamble the next general manager of the San Francisco 49ers after all? Or it going to be Mark Dominik eventually?
Because John Lynch doesn't feel like a GM. But that didn't stop the Niners from giving the potential Hall of Fame safety a six-year deal to be the head of their football operations. That's likely the move here. The polished, media-facing football "czar" is Lynch. The top football scout is the de facto GM. Matt Maiocco of CSN Bay Area reported this morning that Gamble, the incumbent assistant GM, will be evaluated through the draft by Lynch. Dominik, a former GM with the Tampa Bay Bucs, is already being linked as a potential Lynch aide. Gamble and San Francisco's scouting department went to Mobile for the Senior Bowl – they're in the process of setting the draft board. This is standard procedure for them to stick around during the pre-draft process. We'll see what happens with Dominik.
When the Niners pick No. 2 overall in a couple of months, is this Gamble/Dominik choosing Mitch Trubisky over Deshaun Watson to be the franchise quarterback of the future? Or is this Lynch making the pick? It's all fascinating on many levels, like everything the Niners do.



But heck, as long as it's for the culture, re-establishing the championship culture, it's all good, right?
The top football evaluator under Lynch will probably be the college-tape grinder, the one with the eye for talent and the ability to scout the lower levels of college football. Lynch will be the one buttering up the media, giving guidance to the locker-room veterans and coaching up the defensive backs (just like his predecessor, Trent Baalke).
This is a bold move, no doubt. I personally don't love it. I really don't hate it, either. My general reaction is, "Meh." But because of San Francisco's turmoil and coaching maneuvers in the past 36 months, this is probably the best the Niners could do. Soon-to-be head coach Kyle Shanahan got his guy in Lynch. Jed York got his power tandem. Connections are everything in the NFL and they played a role in Lynch landing in Santa Clara. Mike Shanahan coached Lynch, which makes the younger Shanny down to work with Lynch over GMs like George Paton and Terry McDonough. It sounds good on paper from that standpoint.
On the team side, York has two football guys who will "fight" for each other, and he won't have to break out the therapy couch every few months to figure out why people aren't communicating in the building. He will sell the relationship to you and I all day.



Lynch's inexperience in his new job is the real sticking point in this equation though. We know Shanahan can put up points when given the talent on offense. This is why he's coaching for the Falcons in the Super Bowl this week. Lynch, on the other hand, is more of a greenhorn. Can he get Shanahan a Matt Ryan or Julio Jones-esque talent? He's met with coaches and elite players as part of FOX's broadcasting crew, but there's no true blueprint of going from the TV booth to the scouting seat. Ask Matt Millen about that.



York tends to make moves like this. He's hired two GMs and is about to hire his fourth head coach, all of whom have never been in their respective positions in the NFL. He's made those six hires in the past eight NFL seasons. So there's that. Lynch will probably win the press conference. However, Lowell Cohn retired, someone else will have to force the Niners to "say something" of merit in this upcoming media unveiling. But from my experience, you can't get too caught up in the press conference or what's said in a press release. It's a results-based business and as soon as those men sign their contracts, the clock gets ticking for them to produce.
What really matters – more than the names Lynch and Shanahan – are the names added to a 2-14 roster. Because the biggest decisions the Niners will have to make is the pick at No. 2, the big-name talent they go after in free agency and the future at quarterback. The last one is kind of important.

The off-the-radar Lynch hire was done to re-establish championship culture. It might shake up the culture on day one, but for the championship part, that probably won't happen until at least 2020, like the vision. By then, if not sooner, we'll know if the vision for the franchise has real merit.

Something he would NEVER be allowed to say when working for the 49ers.

"Damn, look at that scoreboard...62-0...f**k"

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:

should be impressed or worried that he drinks girl drinks ?

Jay Glazer says John Lynch once drank 34 Mai Tais in one sitting

Heartburn city...gotta be like Wade Boggs an crush 64 beers in one cross country flight

Curious...are you an It's Always Sunny in Philly fan?

I Love you now.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Cocaine definitely involved on both those occasions

Haha I don't doubt it!

Well they spent all night at York's then flew to Atlanta. lol

Having a real party lol

For in 1991, John Lynch was not much of an NFL prospect. A quarterback-turned-safety at Stanford, he started three games as a junior. A second-round draft pick of the Florida Marlins as a pitcher, Lynch had pretty much decided to give up football as a senior to concentrate on baseball.

"Then along comes Bill Walsh, and I'm ready to go off to spring training," Lynch said. "He tells me, not only can I help the Stanford team, but I can play in the NFL at Pro Bowl level at safety. I was trying to be as respectful as possible, but I said, 'What makes you think that? I've started three games in college.'

"Not only did he tell me, but he had a tape. I only had about 10 good plays, but he would show me a play of myself and then a play of Ronnie Lott. He was a good salesman because after that day I called the Marlins and said, 'I'm going to come, but I'm also going to play football my senior year.' "

The following spring Lynch had become a mid-level NFL prospect, but there was no real reason for the Bucs to have any particular interest in him. That is, until Walsh called then-Bucs coach Sam Wyche.

Wyche had been a player for Walsh in Cincinnati and an assistant coach for him in San Francisco, and his old boss was calling with a tip that would help change the course of a franchise.

"Bill called me and said, 'Don't let this guy get away. He's the best leader and the best hitter you can hope for,' " Wyche said. "At the time, our competition was baseball. He was a bit of a gamble in the draft, so we had to make sure John wanted to play football. I did a total recruiting pitch for him.

"John and his wife, Linda, are such a great couple, they're the kind of people you want in your life and in your community. They became like real-life angels living among us."

And so it was Lynch who lived through the orange uniforms, the half-empty bleachers and the losing seasons. He was here two years before Brooks and Sapp, and three years before Dungy.

He saw the Glazers buy the team, he saw players arrive, and he eventually saw a new stadium built. He began the John Lynch Foundation and has seen it help more than 50 high school students go on to colleges.

Along the way, he saw a franchise change its identity. With Sapp on the line, Brooks in the middle and Lynch in the secondary, the Bucs became one of the fiercest defenses in NFL history.

It is hard to imagine two more disparate personalities than Sapp and Lynch. They came from different coasts, different cultures, different worlds. Sapp is loud and obnoxious. Lynch is quiet and polite. From the time Sapp arrived, he worked on Lynch's last nerve. Their relationship finally came to a crossroads on a flight home after a loss when Sapp started flipping playing cards at the back of Lynch's head.

"I'd had enough of him, he was always egging me on," Lynch said. "I told him, 'Warren, I don't care how big you are, I will whup your you-know-what if you throw one more card.' And he did, he threw one more card. I got up, and (Trent) Dilfer and Brooks were there to catch my (punch) or I don't know what would have happened.

"But right then, Sapp said, 'Okay, now we can go to war together.' And we've been great ever since."

It would take another half-dozen seasons — and a collection of Pro Bowl appearances among them — but Sapp, Brooks and Lynch eventually took the Bucs to a Super Bowl title.

Wyche was long gone. Dungy had left, too. Hugh Culverhouse had died, and Tampa Stadium had been demolished. But Lynch was here to see a franchise go from nowhere to the top of the world.

"The fact he played a central role in all of it," said his father, John Lynch Sr., "he takes incredible pride in."

So, when it was time to leave pro football behind, John Lynch retired to the place where it began. And he marveled about the journey as much as the destination.

"I think about a lot of things," Lynch said. "If it wasn't for Bill Walsh, I was gone to play baseball. I wonder would I have made it? Or what if I had stayed at quarterback? There are so many things you think about. But this is the way it turned out, and I'm blessed that it did."

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/tampa-bay-bucs-debt-to-john-lynch-is-also-to-bill-walsh/907411

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:

should be impressed or worried that he drinks girl drinks ?

Jay Glazer says John Lynch once drank 34 Mai Tais in one sitting

Heartburn city...gotta be like Wade Boggs an crush 64 beers in one cross country flight

Curious...are you an It's Always Sunny in Philly fan?

I Love you now.

HA

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
^ So basically he is saying if all goes well we should see positive results in 2020

This team was set for a 2-3 year rebuild regardless of who was hired. No QB, no pass rush, lack of talent on offense, its going to take a few years.

At least 3 seasons. It's going to take them that long to learn the offense.

Gonna be even longer if they don't take care of the QB position first.