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Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:
Jets is rumored to be very interested in Kap, quite sure the Eagles feels the same way. He may be gone in a day or two.

Trade deadline ended today

Looking at this off season.
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Originally posted by Blindfury:
As I've said. People are more concerned with what Kaep is now rather than how he got here.

Is very simple, we don't live in the past.

You cease to amaze me, when the news first came out about Kap's benching, I recall very clearly you said that would be your very last post in this thread. 2 minutes later, you went on to post another 97 posts. LOL.

Is time to move on, bro! is starting to affect your health.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:
Jets is rumored to be very interested in Kap, quite sure the Eagles feels the same way. He may be gone in a day or two.

Trade deadline ended today

Looking at this off season.

Someone a little late to spread rumors
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
I've seen it since last year... I've brought it up here sparingly because I think being constantly negative blows.

Bad footwork
Pocket presence
Mechanics
Scanning the field
Too worried about the Homerun

Kurt Warner even admitted Kaep looks to run first instead of being a QB. He went to him to fix those things and it hasn't shown.

It does not happen in an offseason. It's something that needs to be worked on. People forget that Kaep was drafted as a project. He didn't play in a pro style offense. This is all new to him. He's learning on the fly. This is why changing his throwing motion was not a good idea. If that was the only thing he needed to work on, sure. But how do you change footwork, throwing motion and learn how to play in the pocket all at the same time? OK, he sucks right now. But why? He's got a whole bunch of stuff in his head. As he drops back to pass he has to think about footwork, throwing motion, stay in the pocket.....oh and run for your life because the line is atrocious. a lot to process.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Is very simple, we don't live in the past.

You cease to amaze me, when the news first came out about Kap's benching, I recall very clearly you said that would be your very last post in this thread. 2 minutes later, you went on to post another 97 posts. LOL.

Is time to move on, bro! is starting to affect your health.

You're the one that needs to move on. Do yo post in other threads? You're getting called out by a bunch of people. Take a breather.
[ Edited by Blindfury on Nov 3, 2015 at 7:28 PM ]
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Originally posted by eastie:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Harbaalke:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
How soon till we can delete this thread?

F all the bickering he's goneeeeeee. Everything's ok. We can finally start drafting some promising qbs that give a sh*t about mechanics.

This team is far from okay smh.

I think what Sunday is trying to say is you got to turn the page and start fixing this team since Krap is benched anyway. What is the point to keep arguing about Krap to death? It doesn't do sh*t. Just move on!!

and then you'll cry when Kap the starter again lol Gabbert going back to the bench bud probably only take a game

It doesn't matter, Krap will be cut at the end of the season. You can't stop the inevitable bro. It is what it is.

And then in three more years we will be right back here throwing the next guy under the bus...groundhog day all over again

Throwing the next guy under the bus is OK as long as it is the right guy and in this case Krap is the right guy. There might be other issues with the team, but Krap is a big part of it and had to be benched. When you get to the point when players had to text the media to ask their QB to be benched, then you know is time.
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Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
What do you mean?

Some people are talking about Kaep can't make throws, can't play, just flat out sucks. But he wasn't like that before. So I'm more interested in finding out how and why he fell off so hard. Why did Steve Young suck with the Bucs? Why was Alex terrible in the early part of his career? It goes beyond whether you think he's a good QB or a bad one. Both sides are entrenched on either side. But WHY and HOW did Kaep go from having enough confidence to play at such a high level in the playoffs against good opposition to being afraid to throw the ball. He is mentally not right. Why?

Both Steve and Alex both got better as their years progressed.
Kaep on the other hand caught the league off guard and never progressed.

This is why Kaep went to Warner... He knows he has to progress and that his gimmick run the ball, bullet passes has been figured out.

Steve and Alex adjusted... Kaep hasn't yet. Keep in mind I said yet, but both these guys have been benched and in the end it's been beneficial.
[ Edited by JiksJuicy on Nov 3, 2015 at 7:28 PM ]
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"Get this monkey off my back"

"We want Carr"


This is Kaeps test. How he responds will define him.
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
What do you mean?

Some people are talking about Kaep can't make throws, can't play, just flat out sucks. But he wasn't like that before. So I'm more interested in finding out how and why he fell off so hard. Why did Steve Young suck with the Bucs? Why was Alex terrible in the early part of his career? It goes beyond whether you think he's a good QB or a bad one. Both sides are entrenched on either side. But WHY and HOW did Kaep go from having enough confidence to play at such a high level in the playoffs against good opposition to being afraid to throw the ball. He is mentally not right. Why?

Both Steve and Alex both got better as their years progressed.
Kaep on the other hand caught the league off guard and never progressed.

This is why Kaep went to Warner... He knows he has to progress and that his gimmick run the ball, bullet passes has been figured out.

Steve and Alex adjusted... Kaep hasn't yet. Keep in mind I said yet, but both these guys have been benched and in the end it's been beneficial.

What we know for sure is kaep can make the throws when he has protection

So why not protect his azz baalke !
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
I've seen it since last year... I've brought it up here sparingly because I think being constantly negative blows.

Bad footwork
Pocket presence
Mechanics
Scanning the field
Too worried about the Homerun

Kurt Warner even admitted Kaep looks to run first instead of being a QB. He went to him to fix those things and it hasn't shown.

His mechanics were never really awesome when he played well either, he just made throws. Those throws are still there, he just doesn't believe in himself enough to pull the trigger or connect. It's more of a confidence thing than a he can't do it thing. We've seen him do it, his problem is he's about as shell shocked as David Carr right now.
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Both Steve and Alex both got better as their years progressed.
Kaep on the other hand caught the league off guard and never progressed.

This is why Kaep went to Warner... He knows he has to progress and that his gimmick run the ball, bullet passes has been figured out.

Steve and Alex adjusted... Kaep hasn't yet. Keep in mind I said yet, but both these guys have been benched and in the end it's been beneficial.

Steve and Alex's teams drastically improved later in their careers. Kaps drastically diminished.
Defensing Kaepernick--
  • Use extra LOS defenders to contain runs
  • Keep DB between CK and the WR to prevent completions...no arc to get over DBs
  • Maintain pressure over C, RG and RT

Seems simple enough. But CK managed to toss a couple of really nice touch lofted passes for completions week before last.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What we know for sure is kaep can make the throws when he has protection

So why not protect his azz baalke !

I don't think he is using his protection. Pleas don't view me as a hater but it's my opinion. Sometimes a QB has to create protection, just as much as the oline does. I think Kaep feels pressure and runs, instead of finding the holes in the imperfect pocket and making a throw.

It's unfair to the oline, because you can't block for that. You have 7 guys rushing, and to create a perfect pocket is impossible. What the QB can do is not get happy feet, yet slide where the protection and pocket has been improvised.
Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by Rascal:
Is very simple, we don't live in the past.

You cease to amaze me, when the news first came out about Kap's benching, I recall very clearly you said that would be your very last post in this thread. 2 minutes later, you went on to post another 97 posts. LOL.

Is time to move on, bro! is starting to affect your health.

You're the one that needs to move on. Do yo post in other threads? You're getting called out by a bunch of people. Take a breather.

He needs to go support Gabbert then, why is he still here? There is a thread for him!
[ Edited by Harbaalke on Nov 3, 2015 at 7:46 PM ]
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Both Steve and Alex both got better as their years progressed.
Kaep on the other hand caught the league off guard and never progressed.

This is why Kaep went to Warner... He knows he has to progress and that his gimmick run the ball, bullet passes has been figured out.

Steve and Alex adjusted... Kaep hasn't yet. Keep in mind I said yet, but both these guys have been benched and in the end it's been beneficial.

When you start at such a low level there's only one way to go. Kaep started at almost the highest level you could get to. He almost won a superbowl his first year. Beat 2 contenders. Did you expect him to get better? The guy started at almost 100 QB Rating in year one. How long did it take his peers to get to that level? Many have not. Dalton has never cracked a 90 rating with all that talent and he's in year 5. He finally has a 100+ rating this year. Stafford had a 97 rating in his 3rd year then never got anywhere near there. I can go on and on. Kaep's rating in his 2nd year 90+ again. Last year his rating was in the top 10 in the 1st half of the season..then the team fell apart. So, lets say last year he sucked, right? 19TDs 10INT 86.4. Ahead of Stafford, Foles, Newton. Right behind Cutler, Eli, Flacco.

He's bad now, but some people here are going way overboard about how bad he was. Greatly exagerated. He's bad this year though...I'll concede that. Again to me it looks like people who either were on the fence or against him from the beginning making the most noise.
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