Vernon Davis "is the focal point"

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by BrodieFan:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by BrodieFan:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
I think that K's opinion is that NO TIGHT END is ever worth a top ten pick.

When you look back on their careers, would you say Tony Gonzalez or Kellen Winslow Sr. wouldn't have merited a top-10 pick. Or to put it another way, if the Chiefs had picked Gonzalez at number 6, would they have gotten quality out of their first round pick?

OK you got me! If you have a time machine or a crystal ball then yes a TE is worth a top 10 pick in my opinion!

My only beef is with this dictum of yours that a team should never take a tight end with a high pick. If you're sitting there in '05, you already know guys like Gonzalez have taken over games, gone to the probowl, gotten TD's and are on their way to the HOF. So, why not roll the dice on a player who looks like he could be like Gonzalez only better? Obviously, Davis hasn't been that, but I can see why they thought he could be and I haven't lost hope that he can turn into that player.

Can't the same be said for guys at other positions? You can get a productive TE damn near anywhere in the draft. The pure fact that not alot of TE's go early should also tell you something.

But you know what. I respect your opinion. But this topic has ran it's course 1,000 times over. Tired of repeating myself.


So here's to Vernon becoming God like!

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I just have one thing to say to Krizay. It was a mistake to draft a TE that high. No TE should be drafted where he was, this is not Vernon's fault. Just becasue people got wowed by his combine numbers doesn't mean it's his fault he has not lived up to these colossal predictions that he will "revolutionize" the TE position. I think you have to seperate the man from the hype.

The guy is one of the hardest workers on the team and although he lets his emotions get the best of him too much, he's a good teamate and wants to win. If he can get 700 yards, 5-6 touchdowns with a few gamebreaking plays and a few boneheaded plays to go along with his very good blocking I think that makes him a very good players and I think we would all be very satisfied with him.

It was a bad pick and Heloti Ngata would've been a much better pick, but if he does this and becomes a solid 2nd tier recieving tight end I think you should tone down the VD hate.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
When Vernon breaks out this year, all you that hate on him are gunna be the biggest flip flopers,

Vernon Davis is gunna be a captian this year.

Originally posted by BrodieFan:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by BrodieFan:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by BrodieFan:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
I think that K's opinion is that NO TIGHT END is ever worth a top ten pick.

When you look back on their careers, would you say Tony Gonzalez or Kellen Winslow Sr. wouldn't have merited a top-10 pick. Or to put it another way, if the Chiefs had picked Gonzalez at number 6, would they have gotten quality out of their first round pick?

OK you got me! If you have a time machine or a crystal ball then yes a TE is worth a top 10 pick in my opinion!

My only beef is with this dictum of yours that a team should never take a tight end with a high pick. If you're sitting there in '05, you already know guys like Gonzalez have taken over games, gone to the probowl, gotten TD's and are on their way to the HOF. So, why not roll the dice on a player who looks like he could be like Gonzalez only better? Obviously, Davis hasn't been that, but I can see why they thought he could be and I haven't lost hope that he can turn into that player.

Can't the same be said for guys at other positions? You can get a productive TE damn near anywhere in the draft. The pure fact that not alot of TE's go early should also tell you something.

But you know what. I respect your opinion. But this topic has ran it's course 1,000 times over. Tired of repeating myself.


So here's to Vernon becoming God like!

Thank you. And you should know that in spite of all the arguing, I think you're probably much closer to reality than I am. The kid just cracks me up and he's a real freak, so I've always hoped he could be a star.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
When Vernon breaks out this year, all you that hate on him are gunna be the biggest flip flopers,

Vernon Davis is gunna be a captian this year.

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
yeah laugh it up buddy, i dont wanna hear you riding his nuts this year whens hes putting up numbers. Ill remember this convo and call u out everytime

Vernon Davis takes this 49er gig serious. Even though he wasnt getting the ball thrown to him last year becuz he was in the trenches, he didnt b***h once. True team player = captian in my eyes

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
yeah laugh it up buddy, i dont wanna hear you riding his nuts this year whens hes putting up numbers. Ill remember this convo and call u out everytime

Vernon Davis takes this 49er gig serious. Even though he wasnt getting the ball thrown to him last year becuz he was in the trenches, he didnt b***h once. True team player = captian in my eyes

WTF is a "captian".

-9fa

Originally posted by Grigga2021:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
yeah laugh it up buddy, i dont wanna hear you riding his nuts this year whens hes putting up numbers. Ill remember this convo and call u out everytime

Vernon Davis takes this 49er gig serious. Even though he wasnt getting the ball thrown to him last year becuz he was in the trenches, he didnt b***h once. True team player = captian in my eyes

WTF is a "captian".

-9fA

What are u a nerd?

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by Grigga2021:
yeah laugh it up buddy, i dont wanna hear you riding his nuts this year whens hes putting up numbers. Ill remember this convo and call u out everytime

Vernon Davis takes this 49er gig serious. Even though he wasnt getting the ball thrown to him last year becuz he was in the trenches, he didnt b***h once. True team player = captian in my eyes

WTF is a "captian".

-9fA

What are u a nerd?

?

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Grigga quit being such a post whore

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I just have one thing to say to Krizay. It was a mistake to draft a TE that high. No TE should be drafted where he was, this is not Vernon's fault. Just becasue people got wowed by his combine numbers doesn't mean it's his fault he has not lived up to these colossal predictions that he will "revolutionize" the TE position. I think you have to seperate the man from the hype.

The guy is one of the hardest workers on the team and although he lets his emotions get the best of him too much, he's a good teamate and wants to win. If he can get 700 yards, 5-6 touchdowns with a few gamebreaking plays and a few boneheaded plays to go along with his very good blocking I think that makes him a very good players and I think we would all be very satisfied with him.

It was a bad pick and Heloti Ngata would've been a much better pick, but if he does this and becomes a solid 2nd tier recieving tight end I think you should tone down the VD hate.