QB Sam Darnold is a Viking

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Solid post.

And he played a lot better at the end of last season w/Panthers.

Maybe Wilks said something to KS/JL??

Dude had 5 TOs in 4 of those 6 last games. They ran the snot out of the ball and gave him easy underneath stuff. His last couple games are being exaggerated greatly if you watch them.

NY plz, if TL put up a 92 rating, 4-2 with a fired HC, a traded out WR, a traded out CMC you would be talking about it on end.. not downplaying it. That was a tire fire, we had an entire thread the CAR firesale thread, devoted to how this org was punting on their season, shedding coaching, talent, you name it.

Just asking ppl give this guy a chance I see no reason to be in this thread dumping on a guy who hasn't even done anything yet. Can fans not be optimistic he can turn it around? There is no real harm if he doesn't, low risk signing.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NY plz, if TL put up a 92 rating, 4-2 with a fired HC, a traded out WR, a traded out CMC you would be talking about it on end.. not downplaying it. That was a tire fire, we had an entire thread the CAR firesale thread, devoted to how this org was punting on their season, shedding coaching, talent, you name it.

Just asking ppl give this guy a chance I see no reason to be in this thread dumping on a guy who hasn't even done anything yet. Can fans not be optimistic he can turn it around? There is no real harm if he doesn't, low risk signing.

You clearly didn't watch any of those games or have any clue how QB rate exists. explain to me how 160 yards and competing 58% of your passes equals 103.8 QR rating?

Sam's best game they ran for over 300 yards lol and his best game wasn't even better than Lance's second career start.

You don't get to talk about W/Ls when one of his wins he literally completed 33% of his balls with multiple TOs

if Lance's claim to fame was a 6 game stretch after 50 games with 5 TOs I'd say he sucks too

You can be optimistic, just don't b******t people into pretending he's been something he's hasn't been for five years.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NY plz, if TL put up a 92 rating, 4-2 with a fired HC, a traded out WR, a traded out CMC you would be talking about it on end.. not downplaying it. That was a tire fire, we had an entire thread the CAR firesale thread, devoted to how this org was punting on their season, shedding coaching, talent, you name it.

Just asking ppl give this guy a chance I see no reason to be in this thread dumping on a guy who hasn't even done anything yet. Can fans not be optimistic he can turn it around? There is no real harm if he doesn't, low risk signing.

You clearly didn't watch any of those games or have any clue how QB rate exists. explain to me how 160 yards and competing 58% of your passes equals 103.8 QR rating?

Sam's best game they ran for over 300 yards lol and his best game wasn't even better than Lance's second career start.

You don't get to talk about W/Ls when one of his wins he literally completed 33% of his balls with multiple TOs

if Lance's claim to fame was a 6 game stretch after 50 games with 5 TOs I'd say he sucks too

You can be optimistic, just don't b******t people into pretending he's been something he's hasn't been for five years.

is Gore bsing ppl or Baldy, or anyone else.. come on man, you keep talking about numbers from just a disaster situation, numbers that were actually pretty good. Now he gets a rolls royce situation, compared to that mess, that's the reason for optimism

you may be downplaying also the impact Griese had on BP, it's hard to say how TL would have looked, he got hurt, but imagine Griese having a chance to work with TL and Sam

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NY plz, if TL put up a 92 rating, 4-2 with a fired HC, a traded out WR, a traded out CMC you would be talking about it on end.. not downplaying it. That was a tire fire, we had an entire thread the CAR firesale thread, devoted to how this org was punting on their season, shedding coaching, talent, you name it.

Just asking ppl give this guy a chance I see no reason to be in this thread dumping on a guy who hasn't even done anything yet. Can fans not be optimistic he can turn it around? There is no real harm if he doesn't, low risk signing.

You clearly didn't watch any of those games or have any clue how QB rate exists. explain to me how 160 yards and competing 58% of your passes equals 103.8 QR rating?

Sam's best game they ran for over 300 yards lol and his best game wasn't even better than Lance's second career start.

You don't get to talk about W/Ls when one of his wins he literally completed 33% of his balls with multiple TOs

if Lance's claim to fame was a 6 game stretch after 50 games with 5 TOs I'd say he sucks too

You can be optimistic, just don't b******t people into pretending he's been something he's hasn't been for five years.

It's amazing to me how hypocritical some are. The jury is not out on a guy that played 50+ games in 5 years and sucked but the jury is out on a guy that played less then 5 games

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NY plz, if TL put up a 92 rating, 4-2 with a fired HC, a traded out WR, a traded out CMC you would be talking about it on end.. not downplaying it. That was a tire fire, we had an entire thread the CAR firesale thread, devoted to how this org was punting on their season, shedding coaching, talent, you name it.

Just asking ppl give this guy a chance I see no reason to be in this thread dumping on a guy who hasn't even done anything yet. Can fans not be optimistic he can turn it around? There is no real harm if he doesn't, low risk signing.

You clearly didn't watch any of those games or have any clue how QB rate exists. explain to me how 160 yards and competing 58% of your passes equals 103.8 QR rating?

Sam's best game they ran for over 300 yards lol and his best game wasn't even better than Lance's second career start.

You don't get to talk about W/Ls when one of his wins he literally completed 33% of his balls with multiple TOs

if Lance's claim to fame was a 6 game stretch after 50 games with 5 TOs I'd say he sucks too

You can be optimistic, just don't b******t people into pretending he's been something he's hasn't been for five years.

It's amazing to me how hypocritical some are. The jury is not out on a guy that played 50+ games in 5 years and sucked but the jury is out on a guy that played less then 5 games

808, where is the hypocrisy in saying TL can improve he just turned 23 and Sam can improve also in a new situation?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
is Gore bsing ppl or Baldy, or anyone else.. come on man, you keep talking about numbers from just a disaster situation, numbers that were actually pretty good. Now he gets a rolls royce situation, compared to that mess, that's the reason for optimism

you may be downplaying also the impact Griese had on BP, it's hard to say how TL would have looked, he got hurt, but imagine Griese having a chance to work with TL and Sam

I don't care what they say about him….cool they like him. It's no different than people talking up Jimmy G.

you talk about numbers to pump him up…numbers that you don't even know what they mean. You didn't even watch the games clearly. Talking about wins when the reason they won was because they ran the s**t out of the football at the end of the season. Not Sam tossing them on his back. You love QB rating. He had a three rating in one of his wins!

I'm not downplaying anything. There's YEARS of film backing up what I'm saying. You're the one trying to b******t what he is because he's now a 49er. You'd be laughing your ass off if Seattle had to start him and don't tell me you wouldn't be.

A QB coach can't fix a QB throwing INTs right at LBers and making god awful reads. They can put them in favorable situations based on schemes, that has nothing to do with actual development.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
It's amazing to me how hypocritical some are. The jury is not out on a guy that played 50+ games in 5 years and sucked but the jury is out on a guy that played less then 5 games

Thank you! Sam "just needs a chance" blah blah blah….but Lance's time is running out because he's been on the team for two years (and only has 100 passing attempts). No one is buying the b******t and rightfully so.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NY plz, if TL put up a 92 rating, 4-2 with a fired HC, a traded out WR, a traded out CMC you would be talking about it on end.. not downplaying it. That was a tire fire, we had an entire thread the CAR firesale thread, devoted to how this org was punting on their season, shedding coaching, talent, you name it.

Just asking ppl give this guy a chance I see no reason to be in this thread dumping on a guy who hasn't even done anything yet. Can fans not be optimistic he can turn it around? There is no real harm if he doesn't, low risk signing.

You clearly didn't watch any of those games or have any clue how QB rate exists. explain to me how 160 yards and competing 58% of your passes equals 103.8 QR rating?

Sam's best game they ran for over 300 yards lol and his best game wasn't even better than Lance's second career start.

You don't get to talk about W/Ls when one of his wins he literally completed 33% of his balls with multiple TOs

if Lance's claim to fame was a 6 game stretch after 50 games with 5 TOs I'd say he sucks too

You can be optimistic, just don't b******t people into pretending he's been something he's hasn't been for five years.

It's amazing to me how hypocritical some are. The jury is not out on a guy that played 50+ games in 5 years and sucked but the jury is out on a guy that played less then 5 games

808, where is the hypocrisy in saying TL can improve he just turned 23 and Sam can improve also in a new situation?

That isn't the only thing you said about Lance bro come on, lets keep it real

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NY plz, if TL put up a 92 rating, 4-2 with a fired HC, a traded out WR, a traded out CMC you would be talking about it on end.. not downplaying it. That was a tire fire, we had an entire thread the CAR firesale thread, devoted to how this org was punting on their season, shedding coaching, talent, you name it.

Just asking ppl give this guy a chance I see no reason to be in this thread dumping on a guy who hasn't even done anything yet. Can fans not be optimistic he can turn it around? There is no real harm if he doesn't, low risk signing.

You clearly didn't watch any of those games or have any clue how QB rate exists. explain to me how 160 yards and competing 58% of your passes equals 103.8 QR rating?

Sam's best game they ran for over 300 yards lol and his best game wasn't even better than Lance's second career start.

You don't get to talk about W/Ls when one of his wins he literally completed 33% of his balls with multiple TOs

if Lance's claim to fame was a 6 game stretch after 50 games with 5 TOs I'd say he sucks too

You can be optimistic, just don't b******t people into pretending he's been something he's hasn't been for five years.

It's amazing to me how hypocritical some are. The jury is not out on a guy that played 50+ games in 5 years and sucked but the jury is out on a guy that played less then 5 games

808, where is the hypocrisy in saying TL can improve he just turned 23 and Sam can improve also in a new situation?

That isn't the only thing you said about Lance bro come on, lets keep it real

yeah I refused to blow smoke like the CHI Bears game was some work of art, or that he's a elite runner cuz he made 1 guy miss, that 1 time

you can say on the one hand TL has really looked underwhelming so far (he has) and that he can improve (he can)
they both have a lot of improvement, Trey and Sam, to be viable for us imo, but they got all offseason with a great team and coaching staff in front..

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by pdc20:
If guys like Orlovsky, Rapoport or Simms really think this guy can lead the team to a NFC championship game, there´s two options, they´re dumb or someone is telling them to say that.
Just imagine Sam Darnold in that divisional round game against Dallas with Parsons and Dan Quinn´s defense in front of him. You think he would have stayed calm and not make any mistakes like Purdy in the second half when on the other side Dak crumbled under the pressure?
This "Sam Darnold is a really good QB" thing is really weird. It´s like nobody watched his games.
He has talent don´t get me wrong but the way he plays the game he will always be mediocre at best. Let´s hope Kyle is a magician I guess.

As a USC fan I have followed Darnold. He can play, he just got put in horrible situations with the Jets and Panthers. Now he has playmakers all around him and a playcaller who can put him in positions to succeed. At this point I'd trust him more than Lance.

This. Not sure how many times this needs to be said.

He wasn't that good at USC, so why should he be good in the NFL?

#3 pick for a reason
USC Career
27 games, 549-846 for 7229 yds, 64.9% competed, 57 TD's, 22 Int's

His second season with USC, he was a turnover machine.
That game against Ohio State, the star was a certain Nick Bosa not Sam Darnold.
But you could say he was still a young QB, he could improve and learn how to take care of the football and stop making bad decisions. Did he?
I´m ok with believing that maybe Kyle is the guy that will help Darnold be what he was supposed to be.
But he ´s not a magician either so people should stop being so optimistic about a guy that is on his third team in four years.

Bruh as long as he doesn't see anymore dead ppl or catch Mono again this will be a decent signing, if he helps us win gains then this a steal

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NY plz, if TL put up a 92 rating, 4-2 with a fired HC, a traded out WR, a traded out CMC you would be talking about it on end.. not downplaying it. That was a tire fire, we had an entire thread the CAR firesale thread, devoted to how this org was punting on their season, shedding coaching, talent, you name it.

Just asking ppl give this guy a chance I see no reason to be in this thread dumping on a guy who hasn't even done anything yet. Can fans not be optimistic he can turn it around? There is no real harm if he doesn't, low risk signing.

You clearly didn't watch any of those games or have any clue how QB rate exists. explain to me how 160 yards and competing 58% of your passes equals 103.8 QR rating?

Sam's best game they ran for over 300 yards lol and his best game wasn't even better than Lance's second career start.

You don't get to talk about W/Ls when one of his wins he literally completed 33% of his balls with multiple TOs

if Lance's claim to fame was a 6 game stretch after 50 games with 5 TOs I'd say he sucks too

You can be optimistic, just don't b******t people into pretending he's been something he's hasn't been for five years.

It's amazing to me how hypocritical some are. The jury is not out on a guy that played 50+ games in 5 years and sucked but the jury is out on a guy that played less then 5 games

808, where is the hypocrisy in saying TL can improve he just turned 23 and Sam can improve also in a new situation?

Dude if you say that Darnold has improved recently and that he has a chance to get even better here, obviously you think Trey's career is over. The only way that someone can like Trey is if they simultaneously hate Darnold. I think I have that right...

Can Trey improve? Sure
Can Darnold improve? Sure
Both won't matter because Purdy will be the starter when he's healthy.

Lot of arguments here. So let's ask one of the posters knocking Darnold, are you trying to say that Josh Johnson is better? Because if you aren't, you are saying that Darnold is an improvement. Good.

Lance, Purdy and Darnold. Even Allen. When they are in our shirts they are my players. I don't really care which as long as one of them blasts it and the others support him with class. Mostly, I would like our starting qb to go uninjured and in good form all season and throughout the playoffs. Kind of like the reverse of last year.

Its a team thing.